http://www.vonslatt.com/proj-cc.shtml but for real cred: http://techepics.com/files/pc_before_3.jpg jim -- _________________ Jim Croft ~ jim.croft at gmail.com ~ +61-2-62509499 ~ http://www.google.com/profiles/jim.croft 'A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity.' - Robert Frost, poet (1874-1963)