[clug] Scope of list

[Robert Edwards]

David Schoen wrote:
> I'm no longer local (although I will be working from Canberra next
> week and hopefully make it to the meeting), so I'm probably biased.
> 
> Short of discussions about organising meetings, selling stuff or
> setting up something Canberra specific (a Canberra based wireless mesh
> network anyone?), what's the actual problem with people who aren't
> Canberra or even Australia local participating?
> 
> So far I've found this list nicer, more helpful and more informative
> than any other list I've come across down here.
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave
> 

Thanks Dave.

My main issue is to do with the amount of traffic, especially stuff
which is being discussed on other lists. I'm simply asking that when
people from outside of the CLUG area want to actively participate in
a discussion, they consider taking it to another list. CLUGgers who
want to participate can sign up for that list.

This is just _my_ opinion and its looking like many others are
disagreeing with me, so we'll leave it a little longer before I
decide to retract the whole suggestion.

Cheers,

Bob Edwards.

> 2009/9/16 Robert Edwards <bob at cs.anu.edu.au>:
>> Daniel Pittman wrote:
>>> Robert Edwards <bob at cs.anu.edu.au> writes:
>>>
>>>> A thought of mine (so I'll fork a new thread...):
>>>>
>>>> CLUG is the Canberra Linux Users Group, by which _I_ understand:
>>>>  - Canberra and surrounding region (Southern NSW)
>>>>  - Linux and all other FOSS and all aspects thereof
>>>>  - Users, developers, admins, enquirers, beginners, newbies etc.
>>>>  - Group (whatever that means)
>>>>
>>>> So this mailing list should be targetted at people satisfying those
>>>> criteria. Esp. the first one... this list is for people who live in
>>>> Canberra
>>>> and the surrounding region or who attend CLUG meetings (main meetings,
>>>> PSIGs, Installfests, SFDs etc.). People who have been involved in CLUG in
>>>> the past but are no longer in the Canberra and surrounding region are
>>>> welcome to contribute, but please temper your posts to maybe just one per
>>>> topic, maybe directing us to a similar thread on another mailing list.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else can listen in.
>>> OK, I will bite: why don't you want people like Jacinta and I, and anyone
>>> else
>>> who isn't local, to contribute?  The vast majority of discussion isn't
>>> especially location-limited, and many of the issues are identical between,
>>> say, Melbourne and Canberra?
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> I can say that there are over 650 people on this list, but in the past
>>>> 2 weeks more than twice as many people have unsubscribed as have
>>>> subscribed... this is clearly not sustainable...
>>> Well, my first reaction would be to say "don't mistake a short term market
>>> fluctuation for a long term trend."  What do those figures look like over
>>> the
>>> last three months, and the last year?  What happens with a rolling average
>>> over that time?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>        Daniel
>>>
>> Thanks Daniel,
>>
>> Time to defend my thought...
>>
>> If I wanted to know about issues common to Canberra and Melbourne, I
>> could read the Linux Australia mailing list. That is (partly) what it
>> is there for. Or I'd look up the archives of the LUV lists. This is the
>> CLUG list and it is called the CLUG list for a reason.
>>
>> I don't remember if we have met: please excuse my forgetfulness if we
>> have.
>>
>> Jacinta, on the other hand, has presented, with Paul (not that that is
>> relevant...), at CLUG-supported PERL user meetings here in Canberra
>> (which I have attended) and so _I_ would definitely consider her as
>> someone welcome to contribute to CLUG discussions, but, again, keeping
>> in mind that it is the CLUG list (not Linux Australia etc.).
>>
>> I could go into all the trends of subscriptions etc. but it would be
>> a bit of effort. My take is that if it was a longer term trend, we
>> wouldn't have 650 at the moment. What I would be more interested in
>> is how many of them are from Canberra and the surrounding region, but
>> that is hard/impossible to determine from their e-mail address alone...
>>
>> Anyways, we need to see what others come up with. CLUG has no leadership
>> as such, so this is just my own thought on the issue.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bob Edwards.
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