Fw: [clug] Flirting Techniiques For Men (Paul Wayper)

David Schoen neerolyte at gmail.com
Fri May 1 08:56:27 GMT 2009

I know it's taken me a while to respond but I still don't read my home email
very often...

At the risk of offending some, maybe it would be worth considering
communication platforms in addition to email for CLUG discussions.

I know part of the reason why I never signed up to the CLUG mailing list
while I was just starting with Linux was because it kind of scared me.

My thoughts are that Forum/Bulletin Board might be the answer...

The last one I played with was phpBB 2, which is fairly old now so I'm sure
there must be something better :)

We could have multiple sections (e.g. Anonymous/Beginners/General/Kernel
Hacking/Off Topic/Whatever) and people would only have to subscribe to forum
sections they were interested in reading. Meaning the people who aren't
interested in reading questions from people posting anonymously wouldn't
have to, but anyone who's happy to try and help scared newbies but not so
keen on reading about kernel hacking (me) would also be catered for.

Someone was also asking about the possibility for RSS feeds of the list, I
think most forum packages supply RSS these days.

I definitely would have been much happier posting my "stupid" questions
under "anonymous" somewhere while I was learning linux.



2009/4/23 Robert Edwards <bob at cs.anu.edu.au>

> Rod Peters wrote:
>> On Wednesday 22 April 2009 22:00:34 Paul Wayper wrote:
>>> Donald Benesch wrote:
>>> | There's a lot of this type of email getting thru lately.
>>> | I just today deleted 3.
>>> | Don
>>> I'm with you Don.  Is there any reason why we need this list to be
>>> writable
>>> by non-subscribers?  If you want to post to the list, then subscribe -
>>> it's
>>> that easy.  That way you see the replies to the list too.  The only
>>> people
>>> who don't join the list before posting to it seem to be spammers and
>>> people
>>> who want to ask questions about using Samba under Linux, and neither of
>>> them seems interested in the replies...
>>> Can the person who administrates the list - not I - please set it to
>>> subscriber-only posting?
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>  Agreed, why should we promulgate their spam.
>> Some of the discussion in this thread advocates a need to have a point of
>> contact for Linux beginners.  Agreed, but I doubt that CLUG has many
>> beginners.  It appears to me that most are either IT professionals or IT
>> professionals in training.  It's hardly effective use of scarce Linux skills
>> for them to be stepping beginners through eg a distros "repartitioning
>> proposal".  After all, a typical Windows user hasn't the foggiest what a
>> partition is or why Linux needs more than C drive.
>> I suggest that the CLUG subscription page redirect beginners to beginners
>> groups such PCUG Linux SIG and any others locally of which CLUGgers might be
>> aware.
>> FWIW, our experience within PCUG Linux SIG is that a large proportion,
>> perhaps the majority, of beginners don't persist with Linux.  Difficult to
>> say why, in the absence of much feedback, but I suggest many aspects, often
>> boiling down to "comfort zone".
>> BTW, the PCUG Linux SIG redirect advanced users to CLUG.
>> Rod
> FWIW (is this "beginner" friendly language?), I vote that CLUG
> acknowledges the value of having beginners in our midst (on the e-mail
> list and at the meetings etc.) and that we all try and work a bit
> harder at helping beginners overcome the cultural hurdles of joining
> in with a group like CLUG.
> If individual beginners prefer the PCUG Linux SIG to CLUG, that is
> fine - each to his own, but I don't think that "CLUGgers" should
> redirect beginners to another group other than to let them know
> that other such groups exist.
> CLUG does run install fests (we had one last year, need to start
> planning another one, I'd think) and other ways to help out beginners.
> But, at the end of the day, the beginner may also need to understand
> that we are talking about free software and that they may need to do
> a bit of work themselves if they really want to get the most out of
> their shiny new FOSS distro. Many may choose that the work they have
> already put into understanding their proprietry O/S of choice is
> enough and they are not willing to invest any more time/effort into
> understanding a FOSS alternative.
> Cheers,
> Bob Edwards.
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