[clug] OT: Protesting the proposed clean feed?

David Schoen neerolyte at gmail.com
Thu Oct 23 09:14:48 GMT 2008

Sorry for being spammy but I had one thing to add...

Content Keeper were also supplying the schools with lists of categories and
any categorisation done by the schools was harvested by Content Keeper and
fed back in to their database, I imagine they are doing the same with all
their other clients.

This to me means that their is a very real possibility that a politician
might feel confident that the filtering supplied by something like this is a
reasonable proposition as not only is their a bunch of data already
available, but parents around the country could probably categorise stuff
themselves and keep the whole thing reasonably comprehensive.

That is of course assuming Content Keeper or something equivalent can scale.

- Dave.

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:06 PM, David Schoen <neerolyte at gmail.com> wrote:

> I thought I would just add some info that people may find relevant but no
> one has mentioned...
> I worked at an ACT public primary school about 2 years ago, as a sys admin,
> to trial Content Keeper ( http://www.contentkeeper.com/ ) after we had a
> problem with a child looking up porn and the parent threatening us with
> legal action if nothing was done. I believe after our trial it was
> eventually rolled out to all k-12 public ACT schools, but that was after my
> time. That's not the interesting part though...
> The interesting part is that Content Keeper does not (at least from my
> memory) suffer from most of the technical limitations that nocleanfeed.comare claiming must exist. It allows content to be categorised fairly well, it
> also allows many disperse people to categorise content. If properly set up,
> school admins and teachers were able to categorise new pages, and categorise
> old pages, with minimal spot checking from higher up the chain of command.
> It was also capable of having a disperse range of user types, so teachers
> could see a lot of categories that students couldn't and the different user
> types could be setup differently in each school, or sub-school. It did other
> neat things like categorising google cache and image results with the page
> it's actually caching, rather than with google. I don't think much of this
> functionality was ever used after the trial I was involved in though :(
> As much as I think Content Keeper is technically impressive I definitely
> don't want it filtering my internets.
> The thing I thought people may find interesting is that I work in a
> government department now that is intercepting all https traffic (I don't
> know if it's filtered, but all the ssl certificates I get belong to the
> department and not the origin server). I find this abysmal as I can no
> longer feel safe checking my bank account at work. I also can't verify that
> software I download for work is from the intended source.
> - Dave.
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Jack Kelly <endgame.dos at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi List,
>> I hope you don't mind the OT'ness of this post, but here goes:
>> I don't know how many have seen Minister Conroy's plan to force internet
>> censorship Australia wide, but *** ********** ********* *****
>> http://nocleanfeed.com/ ********** ******.
>> Letter-writing would be a good idea around about now.
>> There have also been some rumblings on the ANU Dept. of CS's internal
>> discussion boards about organising an in-person protest. Has anyone here
>> done that sort of in-person activism before? How do you not get ignored by
>> passers-by?
>> -- Jack
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