[clug] Installfest / Install-off
Alex Satrapa
grail at goldweb.com.au
Fri Oct 3 02:10:01 GMT 2008
On 02/10/2008, at 17:53 , steve jenkin wrote:
> Isn't this spec much like 'E-smith' which became Mitel SME Server, now
> 'contribs.org'??
SOHO server aside, the main idea I was suggesting was, "pick some
nifty thing to do, and all get together to learn how everyone else
does it."
SME and e-box look really cool - but they're pre-boxed products and
installing them by following some instructions *teaches* you nothing.
Nor do you *learn* anything other than how to follow instructions.
What I want is to get people together for a technical discussion
while trying to achieve some goal. Preferably from bare metal with no
scaffolding. In fact, I wouldn't care too much if a 6 hour install-
off was 5 hours of discussion accompanied by 1 hour of actually
achieving anything, if that 5 hours meant that three more people in
the world were capable of understanding the security issues of using
the one DNS server for both authoritative serving of your domain's
records as well as recursive lookups.
That being said, getting an out-of-the-box product means the 1 hour
of install can be cut to 20 minutes, leaving more time to discuss
security issues and tweaks to the out-of-the-box product, which is
still a good thing. As long as someone can learn something about why
the out-of-the-box is set up the way it is.
I'm starting to rant again =(
Will go research those two out-of-the-box products and try preparing
at least a presentation to CLUG about what they are, and what they
*don't* do. Then we can work on the next step for an install-off
which is to get people interested in coming to a technical BBQ :)
Alex
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