[clug] Kubuntu 8.10 first impressions

Robert Edwards bob at cs.anu.edu.au
Mon Nov 10 23:35:43 GMT 2008

Hi Paul,

My experience has been that the .10 Ubuntu releases are a lot more 
experimental and less polished than the .04 (or .06) releases. We do
try out the .10 releases each time (5.10, 6.10, 7.10 and now 8.10)
but have generally found many inconsistencies as you are experiencing.

For our staff and student desktops, we always stick with the latest
.04 releases.

If you want to work and not to experiment, then my recommendation
is to stick with 8.04 (especially as it is an LTS release!).


Bob Edwards.

Paul C. Leopardi wrote:
> Hi all,
> Along with many others, I feel that it was too early for the Kubuntu packagers 
> to remove KDE 3.5 and leave users to cope with 4.1.2 in Kubuntu 8.10 
> Intrepid.
> I do have some specific issues which have to do with the way I work:
> 1. I simultaneously use multiple machines all the time, usually my home PC and 
> my office PC, or my laptop and my office PC, and sometime other *nix boxes as 
> well. My methods for using other machines with KDE 3.5 are to use kssh, 
> kio-fish and Konqueror. With KDE 4 on my office PC this gets wrecked or at 
> least slowed down for a few reasons:
> 1.1 Compiz on my office PC kills X performance when I use ssh -Y from my home 
> PC. At least I think it is Compiz that's doing it. All I really know is that 
> the interface is really sluggish.
> 1.2 Konqueror as a file manager has been de-emphahsised in favour of Dolphin. 
> This makes it harder for me to side-by side use file: and fish: which is what 
> I do with Konqueror in KDE 3.5.
> 1.3 Bug? Konqueror in 4.1.2 forgets its toolbar settings. Fixed in 4.1.3?
> 1.4 Bug? Quanta in 4.1.2 can no longer open a file using kio-fish.
> 2. Plasma has so far been harder to use than Kicker. Are thease bugs 
> or "features"? 
> 2.1 If I right click on a widget in Plasma, nothing happens unless it is 
> unlocked. 
> 2.2 Widgets such as the digital clock take up too much horizontal space and 
> cannot be resized. 
> 2.3 The news ticker overflows its boundaries and flows its text over other 
> widgets. 
> All this has led me to take up too much time trying to get my panels to 
> work "right" - i.e. the way they work in KDE 3.5.
> Maybe I'm just an old fogey? Maybe not. I see that people are already using a 
> repository which tries to put KDE 3.5 back into Intrepid.
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963695
> So, do you think I should nuke my installation and go back to Kubuntu 8.04, 
> try to shove KDE 3.5.10 into 8.10 or just tough it out? Especially 
> considering that somethings that I consider bugs will probably be closed 
> Best, Paul

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