[Fwd: Re: [clug] MtM - content update]

Sunnz sunnzy at gmail.com
Fri Mar 16 01:21:07 GMT 2007

About Gentoo: I don't think it is that significantly more harder than
other distros, it just requires more time and the Gentoo Handbook is
really, really good, it doesn't just tell you to use fdisk to
partition but actually tells you what's going on and how to use it for

I haven't tried installing Debian myself but I guess it has a similar
installation process to Gentoo, you just need time to do the

2007/3/16, Paul Wayper <paul.wayper at anu.edu.au>:
> Damn.  I meant to post this to the list instead of reply to Chris.  Then
> I tried to forward my reply to Chris, but it didn't work.  Here it is:
> Chris Smart wrote:
> >> > > Well I don't like Ubuntu personally and if Ubuntu was the only distro on offer
> >> > > then by your reasoning I should never be using Linux. What a shame that would
> >> > > be for me. Luckily there was choice for me to choose. The fact that not
> >> > > everyone runs Ubuntu is testament to the fact that choice is a good thing.
> >> > >
> >> > > What if the choice wasn't Ubuntu, but Suse? If you had only been offered Suse
> >> > > and never the option of Ubuntu, you'd never have been using Linux. I think by
> >> > > the same token we simply MUST give end users a choice to experiment with
> >> > > which distro they like most.
> >> > >
> >>
> > >
> >
> I think this is a very important point.  The main compelling reason
> we're giving people to move to Linux is choice.  You can have the kind
> of system you want.  There are plenty of Windows sysadmins who are
> totally familiar with hardware and operating systems but still need a
> nice, friendly Linux distro to get them started on the way to
> understanding mount points, /dev directories, and kernel logs.
> Likewise, there are plenty of users who know enough to go straight to
> Debian or Gentoo (or, to not colour the debate, to an 'advanced'
> distribution) but their last taste of Linux was seven years ago when it
> still looked crappy and all the package management was done by hand.
> I think we should list at least half a dozen distros, including Debian
> and Gentoo.  They have their compelling points.  We shouldn't assume
> that people wanting to 'make the move' are total newbies.  But they
> should be ranked in order of ease of use to beginners to Linux, their
> popularity and the breadth of their community support.  So Ubuntu will
> probably come first, followed by Fedora, SuSE and Mandriva in whatever
> order, then Debian, Knoppix and Gentoo and so forth.
> >> > > Yeah I agree, and that's why I carefully selected 4 instead of 4,000   ;)   People
> >> > > can download the livecd of each and test it out. What doesn't work for one
> >> > > person will work for another and people will settle on what they are most
> >> > > comfortable with.
> >> > >
> >>
> > >
> >
> And the key point to make on the web page here is that they're really
> all quite similar under the hood.  Try out the Live CDs and see which
> one has the right look and feel for you.
> People understand change, but they don't like to have to.  The point of
> the Make The Move website, as I read it, is that if you're staring down
> the barrel of upgrading to Vista, then look at all the other things
> which will have a similar (possibly smaller) amount of change but will
> ultimately protect you in the long run.
> Have fun,
> Paul
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