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>   1. Re: Origin of Tux (Paul Wayper)
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>   3. Re: Origin of Tux (Kim Holburn)
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>   5. Re: Recommendations for webcam setup. (Randall Crook)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:45:41 +1100
> From: Paul Wayper <paul.wayper at anu.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [clug] Origin of Tux
> To: CLUG List <linux at lists.samba.org>
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> tridge at samba.org wrote:
>> Duncan,
>>
>>  > Tux is actually a fairy penguin. This is a much smaller bird than the 
>> Emperor
>>  > penguin that zoos like to show off - it's found on parts of the 
>> southern coast
>>  > of Australia. There's a breeding colony on Philip Island (in 
>> Westernport Bay,
>>  > 90Km or so SE of Melbourne) where you can see them come in off the sea 
>> every
>>  > evening. I lived in Canberra in the mid 90s when Linus paid a visit 
>> there, and
>>  > some of the guys from CLUG (Canberra Linux Users Group) took him down 
>> to Philip
>>  > Island. I didn't go, but heard shortly afterwards about some kind of 
>> biting
>>  > incident, so suspect those stories have an element of truth in them.
>>
>> The "biting incident" was at the National zoo and aquarium in
>> Canberra. I used to have some photos of that trip to the zoo, but lost
>> them in a house move (they are probably in some box in my loft).
>>
>> Linus already liked penguins before his visit to Canberra, so it is a
>> bit hard to say whether the visit to the zoo here was really the
>> deciding factor in choosing a mascot, but it makes a nice story :-)
>>
> So was it a fairy penguin or an emperor?
>
> Have fun,
>
> Paul
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:53:39 +1100
> From: tridge at samba.org
> Subject: Re: [clug] Origin of Tux
> To: Paul Wayper <paul.wayper at anu.edu.au>
> Cc: CLUG List <linux at lists.samba.org>
> Message-ID: <17908.60131.44978.16197 at samba.org>
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> Paul,
>
> > So was it a fairy penguin or an emperor?
>
> It was one of the small ones - so presumably it was a fairy (aka
> 'little') penguin
>
> Though maybe it grew into a huge man-eating monster after biting
> Linus? Given the size of a current Linux install image versus the
> install image of the time, it's clear that things associated with
> Linus tend to grow quite rapidly :-)
>
> Has anyone had their finger bitten by a 2.6 kernel lately?
>
> Cheers, Tridge
>
>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 07:40:24 +0100
> From: Kim Holburn <kim at holburn.net>
> Subject: Re: [clug] Origin of Tux
> To: linux <linux at lists.samba.org>
> Message-ID: <65B85A19-E8D8-4CA0-BF92-C71602371E85 at holburn.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> Sign at the penguin enclosure at the National Zoo:
>
> http://holburn.net/image/tux.jpg
>
>
> On 2007/Mar/12, at 4:39 AM, Duncan Roe wrote:
>> Hey,
>>
>> Can anyone comment on the accuracy or otherwise of the post below?
>>
>> Was anyone reading this actually there?
>>
>> <post>
>>
>> Tux is actually a fairy penguin. This is a much smaller bird than
>> the Emperor
>> penguin that zoos like to show off - it's found on parts of the
>> southern coast
>> of Australia. There's a breeding colony on Philip Island (in
>> Westernport Bay,
>> 90Km or so SE of Melbourne) where you can see them come in off the
>> sea every
>> evening. I lived in Canberra in the mid 90s when Linus paid a visit
>> there, and
>> some of the guys from CLUG (Canberra Linux Users Group) took him
>> down to Philip
>> Island. I didn't go, but heard shortly afterwards about some kind
>> of biting
>> incident, so suspect those stories have an element of truth in them.
>>
>> </post>
>>
>> I posted this as a comment on Experts Exchange, but I'd be
>> delighted to hear
>> corrections or elaborations. See
>> http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/System/Linux/
>> Q_22441934.html
>>
>> If you were there, you might like to look at
>> http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,42209,00.html and maybe
>> send them an
>> email to set the record straight.
>>
>> Cheers ... Duncan.
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:45:14 +1100
> From: Paul <mylists at wilsononline.id.au>
> Subject: [clug] udev rules for IR device
> To: CLUG List <linux at lists.samba.org>
> Message-ID: <45F5050A.8040202 at wilsononline.id.au>
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>
> Has anyone experience in writing udev rules
> I have a DVB IR device as follows, which I moves around after reboots, I
> was trying to create a symlink to pin this device down into a fixed name
>
> eg
> #KERNEL=="event*", SYSFS{name}=="cx88 IR _digitalnow DNTV Live_ ",
> SYMLINK+="irdvb0"
>
> but I rebooted and nothing...
> any clues
> BTW I'm running Fedora Core 6
>
>
> udevinfo -a -p /class/input/event3
>
> Udevinfo starts with the device specified by the devpath and then
> walks up the chain of parent devices. It prints for every device
> found, all possible attributes in the udev rules key format.
> A rule to match, can be composed by the attributes of the device
> and the attributes from one single parent device.
>
>  looking at device '/class/input/input3/event3':
>    KERNEL=="event3"
>    SUBSYSTEM=="input"
>    SYSFS{dev}=="13:67"
>
>  looking at parent device '/class/input/input3':
>    ID=="input3"
>    BUS=="input"
>    DRIVER==""
>    SYSFS{uniq}==""
>    SYSFS{phys}=="pci-0000:01:08.0/ir0"
>    SYSFS{name}=="cx88 IR _digitalnow DNTV Live_ "
>
>  looking at parent device '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:09.0/0000:01:08.0':
>    ID=="0000:01:08.0"
>    BUS=="pci"
>    DRIVER=="cx8800"
>    SYSFS{msi_bus}==""
>    SYSFS{broken_parity_status}=="0"
>    SYSFS{enable}=="1"
> 
> SYSFS{modalias}=="pci:v000014F1d00008800sv00001822sd00000025bc04sc00i00"
>    SYSFS{local_cpus}=="ffffffff"
>    SYSFS{irq}=="21"
>    SYSFS{class}=="0x040000"
>    SYSFS{subsystem_device}=="0x0025"
>    SYSFS{subsystem_vendor}=="0x1822"
>    SYSFS{device}=="0x8800"
>    SYSFS{vendor}=="0x14f1"
>
>  looking at parent device '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:09.0':
>    ID=="0000:00:09.0"
>    BUS=="pci"
>    DRIVER==""
>    SYSFS{msi_bus}=="1"
>    SYSFS{broken_parity_status}=="0"
>    SYSFS{enable}=="1"
> 
> SYSFS{modalias}=="pci:v000010DEd0000005Csv00000000sd00000000bc06sc04i01"
>    SYSFS{local_cpus}=="ffffffff"
>    SYSFS{irq}=="0"
>    SYSFS{class}=="0x060401"
>    SYSFS{subsystem_device}=="0x0000"
>    SYSFS{subsystem_vendor}=="0x0000"
>    SYSFS{device}=="0x005c"
>    SYSFS{vendor}=="0x10de"
>
>  looking at parent device '/devices/pci0000:00':
>    ID=="pci0000:00"
>    BUS==""
>    DRIVER==""
>
>
> Thanks
> Paul
>
>
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>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:28:05 +1100
> From: Randall Crook <rcrook at vtown.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [clug] Recommendations for webcam setup.
> To: Clug <linux at lists.samba.org>
> Message-ID: <1173695285.13664.6.camel at elysium>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a logitech Quickcam experess. It works better on linux via
> kopete (Yahoo protocol) than it does on windows. But that is in image
> quality only... Quite franky even under windows the only package I have
> seen that streams fast enough for sign that I have used is skype.
> Unfortunately skype for linux doesnt support the webcam yet.
>
> Maybe someone else on the list may have used something else that
> has a decent streaming rate, but as of now, I have not seen anything
> that would be usefull for something like sign.
>
> Anyone?
>
> Regards
>
> Randall Crook.
>
>
> On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 13:42 +1100, Arafangion wrote:
>> Crossposting from the PCUG mailing list:
>>
>> I would like to purchase a webcam and a new router, so that I can do
>> webcam conversations with some of my friends.
>>
>> The reasons are:
>> 1) My router is crap :)  Hence replacement.
>> 2) I'm learning Auslan, and would like to have Auslan conversations with
>> some friends.  Auslan is a visual-only language, the preferred Sign
>> language of the Deaf community, hence the webcam :)
>>
>> I have noticed that receiving a webcam video feed from a friend using
>> aMSN is slow, even with my (current, crappy) router correctly setup so I
>> am asking here for:
>>
>> "What's the best setup for a live video chat session with other users?".
>> These other users are unlikely to use Linux, so I am after advise about:
>>
>> 1) What's a good webcam.  I'm thinking of going to the store and asking
>> for "A good logitech webcam less than $100", and hoping that it works in
>> Linux, with the assumption that Logitech cameras are generally quite
>> well supported on Linux.
>> 2) What's a good program to use for the video chat - and why. :)
>>
>> I'm ok with having a lagged video stream, but I do not want a jerky
>> video stream.
>>
>> Thanks. :)
>>
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:50:26 +1100
> From: Paul <mylists at wilsononline.id.au>
> Subject: [clug] Re: udev rules for IR device
> Cc: CLUG List <linux at lists.samba.org>
> Message-ID: <45F53072.5070807 at wilsononline.id.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I found this site which gave me a good in-sight to rule the correct rule
> ==> http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_tips.php
> it works now
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 12/03/2007 6:45 PM, Paul wrote:
>> Has anyone experience in writing udev rules
>> I have a DVB IR device as follows, which I moves around after reboots, I
>> was trying to create a symlink to pin this device down into a fixed name
>>
>> eg
>> #KERNEL=="event*", SYSFS{name}=="cx88 IR _digitalnow DNTV Live_ ",
>> SYMLINK+="irdvb0"
>>
>> but I rebooted and nothing...
>> any clues
>> BTW I'm running Fedora Core 6
>>
>>
>> udevinfo -a -p /class/input/event3
>>
>> Udevinfo starts with the device specified by the devpath and then
>> walks up the chain of parent devices. It prints for every device
>> found, all possible attributes in the udev rules key format.
>> A rule to match, can be composed by the attributes of the device
>> and the attributes from one single parent device.
>>
>>  looking at device '/class/input/input3/event3':
>>    KERNEL=="event3"
>>    SUBSYSTEM=="input"
>>    SYSFS{dev}=="13:67"
>>
>>  looking at parent device '/class/input/input3':
>>    ID=="input3"
>>    BUS=="input"
>>    DRIVER==""
>>    SYSFS{uniq}==""
>>    SYSFS{phys}=="pci-0000:01:08.0/ir0"
>>    SYSFS{name}=="cx88 IR _digitalnow DNTV Live_ "
>>
>>  looking at parent device 
>> '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:09.0/0000:01:08.0':
>>    ID=="0000:01:08.0"
>>    BUS=="pci"
>>    DRIVER=="cx8800"
>>    SYSFS{msi_bus}==""
>>    SYSFS{broken_parity_status}=="0"
>>    SYSFS{enable}=="1"
>> 
>> SYSFS{modalias}=="pci:v000014F1d00008800sv00001822sd00000025bc04sc00i00"
>>    SYSFS{local_cpus}=="ffffffff"
>>    SYSFS{irq}=="21"
>>    SYSFS{class}=="0x040000"
>>    SYSFS{subsystem_device}=="0x0025"
>>    SYSFS{subsystem_vendor}=="0x1822"
>>    SYSFS{device}=="0x8800"
>>    SYSFS{vendor}=="0x14f1"
>>
>>  looking at parent device '/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:09.0':
>>    ID=="0000:00:09.0"
>>    BUS=="pci"
>>    DRIVER==""
>>    SYSFS{msi_bus}=="1"
>>    SYSFS{broken_parity_status}=="0"
>>    SYSFS{enable}=="1"
>> 
>> SYSFS{modalias}=="pci:v000010DEd0000005Csv00000000sd00000000bc06sc04i01"
>>    SYSFS{local_cpus}=="ffffffff"
>>    SYSFS{irq}=="0"
>>    SYSFS{class}=="0x060401"
>>    SYSFS{subsystem_device}=="0x0000"
>>    SYSFS{subsystem_vendor}=="0x0000"
>>    SYSFS{device}=="0x005c"
>>    SYSFS{vendor}=="0x10de"
>>
>>  looking at parent device '/devices/pci0000:00':
>>    ID=="pci0000:00"
>>    BUS==""
>>    DRIVER==""
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Paul
>>
>
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