A Technique for Counting NATted Hosts (was Re: [clug] How to prevent
port forwarding)
Kim Holburn
kim.holburn at nicta.com.au
Sun Apr 23 10:12:04 GMT 2006
A Technique for Counting NATted Hosts
http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/papers/fnat.pdf
On 2006 Apr 23, at 2:49 PM, Kim Holburn wrote:
>
> On 2006 Apr 23, at 1:41 PM, steve jenkin wrote:
>> I would've thought that devices behind a NAT'ing firewall would be
>> invisible by definition:
>> - there is no route to them, they are in a private world.
>> The external IP nr of the firewall is the only point that can be
>> reached by tools like traceroute
>> - There is no TTL difference. The firewall does not relay/rewrite
>> by packet, but by connection.
>> - There is no host identifier - all internal IP's are mapped onto
>> the one external...
>
> That's true but there are tools that can infer stuff in odd ways
> from the traffic coming from a system. If you have access to all
> traffic from a site it's even easier.
>
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