[clug] PDAs and calenders

Antti.Roppola at brs.gov.au Antti.Roppola at brs.gov.au
Mon Jul 5 04:03:00 GMT 2004

Alex Satrapa [mailto:grail at goldweb.com.au]:

>On 29 Jun 2004, at 13:53, Antti.Roppola at brs.gov.au wrote:

>> Does anyone have firm opinions on Linux friendly calendering and PDAs?

>I was using Korganizer [sic] for a while. So far I've not yet 
>encountered a synchronising system that works as well as Palm's 
>HotSync. I keep getting duplicates or deletes when I use gnome-pilot or 
>kpilot with various calendars under KDE or Gnome. Mind you, iSync on 
>Mac OS X isn't much better in this respect.

I did a little research on the weekend:

 - The Nokia 6230 uses SyncML (a partially binary XML calender standard)
   and can sync with Outlook. Apparently the Series-60 phones do a lot
   more (you can run ssh, and you can even get viruses)
 - The Mozilla calender looks pretty cool, but uses iCal but not SyncML.
 - Evolution does accept SyncML and a file based option for
   synchronising PIM data. Many people like it, but the dependencies
   include just about everything except the kitchen sink.
 - MultiSync (multisnyc.sourceforge.net) speaks SyncML and acts as
   middleware for a bunch of possibilities (except Mozilla), it has
   been suggested that Mozilla use MultiSync (presumably by adding iCal
   to MultiSync) rather than develop yet another calnder sync-ing library.
 - The SyncML consortium have put the SyncML reference toolkit on SourceForge,
   but haven't really told anyone about it (http://sourceforge.net/projects/syncml/)

>> We have an Outlook/Exchange system at work, and the idea of a PDA is
>> appealing, but I'd like to aggregate work calenders with private ones.

>That doesn't seem to me to be a good idea at all. Most synchronisation 
>tools and calendaring software I've played with doesn't honour the 
>"private" flag in my Palm DateBook. If I synchronise with the calendar 
>at work, my workmates can suddenly see, "Hot date with Kath". Even 
>worse, Kath can see "Hot date with Margaret" the next night. Oh well, 
>keeps me honest, I guess.

I was going to go one-way with that, as long as I can check my calender
in the morning and not have to rush in to work in case there's a meeting,
that's plenty. That and I can organise social stuff without impacting on
work commitments. Looking at SyncML, it should be possible to pass the
data through a filter that deletes/manages conflicting appointments
(in fact, you could pass it through an XSLT that re-writes "Hot date with
Kath" to "Resolve Kath's hot-plug issues".

>> Then there's the current crop of singing-and-dancing mobile phones

>I'm starting to become a big fan of single-purpose devices. But that's 
>just me, and that discussion is best left to the rabid few over a slice 
>of pizza or two at the next CLUG.

>From what I have seen, such as beast meets my functional requirements
(calenders and nag-ware) and leaves me without having to tote around
a PDA, phone *and* MP3 player. Since my Telco will throw one in return
for me signing a 12 month contract, that's two less purchases.



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