Ahh I can't believe it, it does work after all :-) I remember now, when I tried authenticating off the password file originally for some reason I tried use /etc/passwd instead of /etc/shadow. I feel stupid now :-) Thanks for enlightening me Joel "Martijn van Oosterhout" <kleptog at svana.org> wrote in message news:20030226081405.GA6064 at svana.org...