non-Java, Open Source, Message-Oriented Middleware
newmarch at infotech.monash.edu.au
Wed Jun 12 21:44:09 EST 2002
Maybe not quite what you are after, but could be worth looking at anyway:
elvin, a content-based message routing system. Sources generate events,
which are delivered to subscribers for that type of event. Written in C
also has Java, Python, etc APIs. elvin.dstc.edu.au
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Richard Cottrill wrote:
> To reply to my own email. I knew I'd missed something - Spread. Spread fits
> the bill of what you're looking for. Free, non-Java, MOM, multicast - fully
> buzzword compliant. Nifty. It does suffer from a very low-level API (too
> myopic about data IMHO); but it seems to be a real candidate.
> Please let me know how your search turns out.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: linux-admin at lists.samba.org [mailto:linux-admin at lists.samba.org]On
> > Behalf Of Richard Cottrill
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:23 AM
> > To: linux at lists.samba.org
> > Cc: Doug.Palmer at csiro.au
> > Subject: RE: non-Java, Open Source, Message-Oriented Middleware
> > > From: linux-admin at lists.samba.org [mailto:linux-admin at lists.samba.org]On
> > > Behalf Of Doug.Palmer at csiro.au
> > > I've been looking for examples of message-oriented middleware
> > (MOM) in the
> > > open-source world.
> > Hi,
> > Non-Java is a sticking point in open-source. I've looked around this area
> > some and I can't find too much. *IF* you can bend the Java
> > restriction then
> > OpenJMS looks like a decent option. I'm not too thrilled by it because I
> > intrinsically dislike store & forward systems for all kinds of
> > reasons - not
> > the least of which is their inelegance - PGM seems to be a much
> > more elegant
> > solution IMHO. In terms of plusses - OpenJMS is GPL, dead easy to
> > configure,
> > and standards-compliant.
> > TIBCO has abortively released a GPL PGM implementation for Linux
> > (OpenPGM).
> > There was a code drop due late last year; but I'm not sure it ever
> > materialised. I tried to check; but the website appears to be down. I'm
> > going to chase this up.
> > I've looked at hacking Jabber to be a MOM server as well; and some of the
> > docs on the Jabber site suggest that it is one of the goals of the server.
> > Unfortunately I found Jabber a pain to configure and decided I wasn't
> > motivated enough. I was specifically looking at bolting OpenPGM onto the
> > Jabber server for inter-server messaging (thus enabling 1-M
> > communication in
> > that way that I think all MOM systems should).
> > Not to be rude; but I couldn't find anything in the open-source universe
> > that was as featureful as Talarian SmartPGM and SmartSockets - truly
> > spectacular stuff. Talarian gave us (my colleagues and I) a
> > presentation on
> > it and we were agape at some of the things they can do. I
> > sincerely hope you
> > can find something to compete effectively - TIBCO and Talarian both charge
> > through the nose (an average implementation can easily run to US$500k +
> > consulting services - many contracts are more than double that).
> > If want to try something evil; you could build some stored procedures and
> > use MySQL. Off the top of my head I don't know why it's intrinsically so
> > much worse than other store-forward systems... There might be a way to put
> > your tables into /tmp to keep everything in memory (if you don't need
> > persistence). Actually, that might have legs... Suggestions about why this
> > is such a bad idea anyone?
> > Richard
> > *Disclaimer*: I work in product support for TIBCO software. TIBCO recently
> > bought Talarian; ergo I may support Talarian software in future. I believe
> > Andreas is the only person on this list to suffer my professional wrath ;)
Jan Newmarch, School of Network Computing
Email: jan.newmarch at infotech.monash.edu.au
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