Canberra Linux companies

Tue Jun 11 23:11:24 EST 2002

Victor
We support Linux
I think a couple of the guys work with Citrix
- I'll check and get back to you

Regards,
Greg Johanson
Johanson Brothers Enterprises
Australia
www.johanson.com.au

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   1. Re: [Q] IPTables Log Analyzer (Martin Schwenke)
   2. Re: [Q] IPTables Log Analyzer (Martin Schwenke)
   3. Transact Gungahlin (james.cherryh at centrelink.gov.au)
   4. Re: Transact Gungahlin (Chris Henman)
   5. Re: Transact Gungahlin (abartlet at samba.org)
   6. RE: ADSL with TPG (Antti.Roppola at brs.gov.au)
   7. RE: Transact Gungahlin (Doug.Palmer at csiro.au)
   8. Re: Transact Gungahlin (mpainf at tpg.com.au)
   9. TransACT 5 months in... (Brett Worth)
  10. Canberra Linux companies (Victor Richard Markwart)
  11. Re: TransACT 5 months in... (Bob Edwards)
  12. Re: TransACT 5 months in... (Michael Still)
  13. non-Java, Open Source, Message-Oriented Middleware
(Doug.Palmer at csiro.au)
  14. RE: TransACT 5 months in... (Antti.Roppola at brs.gov.au)
  15. Re Transact Gungahlin (adrian)
  16. Re: Re Transact Gungahlin (Matthew Hawkins)
  17. Re: Unplug a mouse and loose it (Gary Woodman)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:26:21 +1000
To: <d.edye at bigfoot.com>
Cc: "Linux List" <linux at lists.samba.org>
Subject: Re: [Q] IPTables Log Analyzer
From: "Martin Schwenke" <martin at meltin.net>
Reply-To: "Martin Schwenke" <martin at meltin.net>

>>>>> "Donovan" == Donovan J Edye <d.edye at bigfoot.com> writes:

    Donovan> Can anyone suggest a tool script that will parse IPTables
    Donovan> log files and genereate a sensible report?

I wrote a bunch of scripts that I call scantools, available via:

  http://meltin.net/hacks/linux/

I used to use these tools for monitoring the firewall at Linuxcare...

Excerpts from the README...

scantools:

A set of programs to deal with log files containing messages generated
by Linux 2.2 ipchains (via DENY) or Linux 2.4 iptables/netfilter (via
LOG).  In particular, this package is useful for detecting port scans
and complaining about them.

Things that scantools doesn't do:

* Dynamically configure your firewall.

* Automatically send out e-mail messages.

* Help you to scan images.  :-)

[...]

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scanstats:

scanstats summarises the most "popular" destination addresses and
ports, and source addresses, in log files (under Debian/GNU Linux,
kern.log files) (on STDIN) containing entries produced by ipchains
(via DENY) or iptables/netfilter (via LOG).

scanstats is useful for providing information to encourage you to
tweak firewall rules, and for finding hosts worthy of nasty messages.

Type "scanstats -h" to see the available options.

[...]

peace & happiness,
martin

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:29:38 +1000
To: Alex Satrapa <grail at goldweb.com.au>
Cc: CLUG Mailing List <linux at samba.org>
Subject: Re: [Q] IPTables Log Analyzer
From: "Martin Schwenke" <martin at meltin.net>
Reply-To: "Martin Schwenke" <martin at meltin.net>

>>>>> "Alex" == Alex Satrapa <grail at goldweb.com.au> writes:

    Alex> Another tool that can aid in checking the utilisation of
    Alex> your firewall rules is "ipac".  [...]

ipac does not support iptables.

peace & happiness,
martin

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Message: 3
To: linux at lists.samba.org
Subject: Transact Gungahlin
From: james.cherryh at centrelink.gov.au
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:55:31 +1000

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Was doorknocked on the weekend by a Transact rep claiming that Transact
was coming to Gungahlin starting next year. I asked how they were going to
run the cables (because of no power poles) and he said through the gas
pipelines! Anyone know any more about this?

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Was doorknocked on the weekend by a
Transact rep claiming that Transact was coming to Gungahlin starting next
year. I asked how they were going to run the cables (because of no power
poles) and he said through the gas pipelines! Anyone know any more about
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:03:50 +1000
From: Chris Henman <ogv at smartchat.net.au>
Reply-To: ogv at smartchat.net.au
Organization: SunPower Systems
To: james.cherryh at centrelink.gov.au
Cc: linux at lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: Transact Gungahlin

I believe that is how Cooma has been done. It is also used overseas.
Not all that unusual.
csh

james.cherryh at centrelink.gov.au wrote:
>
> Was doorknocked on the weekend by a Transact rep claiming that Transact
> was coming to Gungahlin starting next year. I asked how they were going
> to run the cables (because of no power poles) and he said through the
> gas pipelines! Anyone know any more about this?
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:21:07 -0700
To: Chris Henman <ogv at smartchat.net.au>
Cc: james.cherryh at centrelink.gov.au, linux at lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: Transact Gungahlin
From: abartlet at samba.org

On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 10:03:50AM +1000, Chris Henman wrote:
> I believe that is how Cooma has been done. It is also used overseas.
> Not all that unusual.
> csh

Not quite.  Cooma now has cable ducts with rope in them, layed at the
same time as the gas.  The idea of corse is the laying plastic pipes is
cheap - its the digging thats the expencive bit.

But actually putting it *inside* the gas pipeline is an interesting idea....

Andrew Bartlett

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Message: 6
From: Antti.Roppola at brs.gov.au
To: z at amused.net, clug at repose.cx
Cc: linux at samba.org
Subject: RE: ADSL with TPG
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:23:03 +1000

Well it's all up and running now. An authentication failure turned
out to be a shortage of IP numbers for their Canberra subnet, and no
changes were required to get my modem/firewall working (beyond running
pppoe config again to update user/passwd etc). So far I have spoken
with about three helpdesk people and they have been helpful and frank
when something was broken on their end.

Now I need a quiet evening to re-write my traffic meter to do peak/offpeak
and to update mail and news... :o)

Antti

Patrick Cole wrote:

Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 03:03:37PM +1000, Damien Elmes wrote:
>> Let us know how you go with Netspace, Antti - they're the company I'm
thinking
>> of moving to when my Telstra contract expires. Anyone else used them for
ADSL
>> so far?

>I have Netspace ADSL.  It's good.  I use all of the 10GB plus a fair bit
>from my mates account.

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Message: 7
From: Doug.Palmer at csiro.au
To: linux at lists.samba.org
Subject: RE: Transact Gungahlin
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:26:09 +1000

> But actually putting it *inside* the gas pipeline is an
> interesting idea....

For large gas pipes, cleaning out deposited water/gunk is a problem. They
have "pigs" which squeegee along the pipes, flushing the water out. I would
have thought that having cable in the pipes would make this a little
difficult.

Does this build-up not become a problem in smaller gas pipes?

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Message: 8
To: linux at lists.samba.org
From: mpainf at tpg.com.au
Subject: Re: Transact Gungahlin
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 00:44:37 GMT

> Was doorknocked on the weekend by a Transact rep claiming that
Transact
> was coming to Gungahlin starting next year. I asked how they were
going to
> run the cables (because of no power poles) and he said through the
gas
> pipelines! Anyone know any more about this?

Don't know about the cables through the gas pipes, but had a TransACT
rep knock at my door a couple of months ago at something like 8pm at
night, offering TransACT *phone* services.  He was not offering their
cable services though.

Mark P.
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:55:49 +1000 (EST)
From: Brett Worth <brettw at cray.com.au>
To: Linux List <linux at lists.samba.org>
Subject: TransACT 5 months in...

I've been on TransACT for 5 months now and thought I'd share my impressions
so far.

<RANT>

What I like:

The home package that I signed up for included 256K data channel.  I've
consistently been getting 50Kbytes download so the 256K is really 500k.

WebOne, my ISP, has been very good.  Good support and the person who
answers the phone is generally someone technical.  The connection has been
very reliable.

The TV channels provided are OK.  Most of my viewing has been on the
old free-to-air channels but the reception is better that I used to get
from the rabbit ears.

The telephone component has been OK but I'm yet to see what happens if
there's a problem.

What worries me:

I know a couple of people who subscribe to Telstra ADSL and while the
reliability is rumoured to be bad the resources seem to be much better.
e.g. the access to plenty of Linux downloads inside the ADSL network that
doesn't contribute to your download quota.  The Linux ftp area at webone is
still "under construction".

I realise that Telstra seem to be under pricing their ADSL but even with
the recent price rises it seems a lot cheaper than TransACT from any ISP.

Webone offer no-charge data transfer between subscribers so I could setup
my own ftp area to serve a few linux cds to other webone users. Of course
this would be better done from inside webone.  Perhaps we could offer
to donate recent linux cds to webone for them to serve from an FTP server.
Of course if the TransACT peer-to-peer existed this could benefit
subscribers to all TransACT ISPs.

The contract with TransACT is only for 12 months so I'm wondering what I
should do at the end of that period.  Will TransACT ever match Telstra in
pricing and resources?  What ever happened to peer-to-peer on TransACT?
Are and TransACT ISPs is actually offering a linux download area?

</RANT>
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:20:24 +1000 (EST)
From: Victor Richard Markwart <markwart at pcug.org.au>
To: linux at lists.samba.org
Subject: Canberra Linux companies

Hi,
Does anyone know of any companies in Canberra that support Linux
especially any who have rolled out Citrix clients.
Websites etc would be most useful
Cheers
Victor

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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:07:27 +1000
From: Bob Edwards <Robert.Edwards at anu.edu.au>
Organization: Australian National University
To: Brett Worth <brettw at cray.com.au>
Cc: Linux List <linux at lists.samba.org>
Subject: Re: TransACT 5 months in...

Brett Worth wrote:
>
> I've been on TransACT for 5 months now and thought I'd share my
impressions
> so far.
>
> <RANT>
>
> What I like:
>
> The home package that I signed up for included 256K data channel.  I've
> consistently been getting 50Kbytes download so the 256K is really 500k.
>
> WebOne, my ISP, has been very good.  Good support and the person who
> answers the phone is generally someone technical.  The connection has been
> very reliable.
>
> The TV channels provided are OK.  Most of my viewing has been on the
> old free-to-air channels but the reception is better that I used to get
> from the rabbit ears.
>
> The telephone component has been OK but I'm yet to see what happens if
> there's a problem.
>
> What worries me:
>
> I know a couple of people who subscribe to Telstra ADSL and while the
> reliability is rumoured to be bad the resources seem to be much better.
> e.g. the access to plenty of Linux downloads inside the ADSL network that
> doesn't contribute to your download quota.  The Linux ftp area at webone
is
> still "under construction".
>
> I realise that Telstra seem to be under pricing their ADSL but even with
> the recent price rises it seems a lot cheaper than TransACT from any ISP.
>
> Webone offer no-charge data transfer between subscribers so I could setup
> my own ftp area to serve a few linux cds to other webone users. Of course
> this would be better done from inside webone.  Perhaps we could offer
> to donate recent linux cds to webone for them to serve from an FTP server.
> Of course if the TransACT peer-to-peer existed this could benefit
> subscribers to all TransACT ISPs.
>
> The contract with TransACT is only for 12 months so I'm wondering what I
> should do at the end of that period.  Will TransACT ever match Telstra in
> pricing and resources?  What ever happened to peer-to-peer on TransACT?
> Are and TransACT ISPs is actually offering a linux download area?
>
> </RANT>
> --
> Brett

My understanding, from a meeting with TransACT sales guys about two weeks
ago,
is that the "free peer-peer" service will be called something like
"City-Link"
or something equally as non-specific. No problem with me what they call it.

The problem appears to be that they are planning to feed the entire
networks'
worth of "free peer-peer" traffic through a single 1Mbps "channel" on their
VPN
router. Effectively, the "free peer-peer" will be unusable for anything
other
than the occasional e-mail. I laughed when they told me this. I have been
waiting
since October last year for the free peer-peer service - I have been
foolishly
paying my monthly "TransWeb" service fee without having used it at all so
far
and now I discover that it won't be worth waiting for.

Do I feel misled?

Cheers,

Bob Edwards.

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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:17:23 +1000
From: Michael Still <mikal at stillhq.com>
To: Bob Edwards <Robert.Edwards at anu.edu.au>
Cc: Brett Worth <brettw at cray.com.au>,
	Linux List <linux at lists.samba.org>
Subject: Re: TransACT 5 months in...

On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Bob Edwards wrote:

> The problem appears to be that they are planning to feed the entire
> networks' worth of "free peer-peer" traffic through a single 1Mbps
> "channel" on their VPN router. Effectively, the "free peer-peer" will
> be unusable for anything other than the occasional e-mail. I laughed
> when they told me this. I have been waiting since October last year
> for the free peer-peer service - I have been foolishly paying my
> monthly "TransWeb" service fee without having used it at all so far
> and now I discover that it won't be worth waiting for.

Surely if the service is hammered, and they get flak for providing an
unusabvle service, then they'll be forced to upgrade it?

Mikal

--

Michael Still (mikal at stillhq.com)     UMT+10hrs

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Message: 13
From: Doug.Palmer at csiro.au
To: linux at lists.samba.org
Subject: non-Java, Open Source, Message-Oriented Middleware
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:41:27 +1000

I've been looking for examples of message-oriented middleware (MOM) in the
open-source world. There's a stack of Java-based MOM based on JMS. However,
the closest I've come to non-Java MOM is xmlBlaster, which is Java that
talks nice to furriners. I'm a little unclear on whether Jabber could be
bent into shape.

Does anybody know of anything else out there?

--
Doug.Palmer at csiro.au
CSIRO Mathematical and Information Sciences
GPO Box 664                                    tel: +61 2 6216 7061
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Message: 14
From: Antti.Roppola at brs.gov.au
To: Robert.Edwards at anu.edu.au, brettw at cray.com.au
Cc: linux at lists.samba.org
Subject: RE: TransACT 5 months in...
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:46:27 +1000

That sort of service would be a PR disaster: "We give you 2400 baud
broadband!"
So I wouldn't read it as a fate-accompli just yet. They would be better off
charging for meaningful capacity than launching a crippled service like
that.

Antti

Bob Edwards wrote:

> The problem appears to be that they are planning to feed the entire
networks'
> worth of "free peer-peer" traffic through a single 1Mbps "channel" on
their
> VPN router. Effectively, the "free peer-peer" will be unusable for
anything other
> than the occasional e-mail. I laughed when they told me this. I have been

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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:02:37 +1000
From: adrian <adrian at snowy.net.au>
Organization: Snowy Technology Pty Ltd
To: linux at lists.samba.org
Subject: Re Transact Gungahlin

Cooma is a shared trenching agreement, so the cable is alongside the
gas. Technology may have advanced to install cable in the gas lines, but
only thin cable otherwise the gas lines would need to be enlarged.

Cable has been installed in disused water and sewerage lines.

Adrian
--
Adrian Blake
Snowy Technology Pty Ltd
37 Commissioner St.
P.O. Box 57
Cooma, NSW 2630
Ph 2-64-524338 mobile 0407 232 978

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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 15:48:35 +1000
From: Matthew Hawkins <matt at mh.dropbear.id.au>
To: linux at lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: Re Transact Gungahlin

adrian (adrian at snowy.net.au) wrote:
> Cable has been installed in disused water and sewerage lines.

Brings whole new meaning to the phrase "The web has a few interesting
sites but most of it is just shit" ;-)

--
Matt
                             Last year I kudn't spel Engineer.  Now eye are
won.

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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 00:05:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gary Woodman <antigramp at yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Re: Unplug a mouse and loose it
To: CLUG <linux at samba.org>

--- Damien Elmes <clug at repose.cx> wrote:
> Michael James <michael at james.st> writes:
>
> > Sometimes in the middle of a KDE login,
> >  I plug Screen, keyboard and mouse into a different computer
> >  and use/debug that one for a while.
> >
> > Then I want to go back to the original one.
> >
> > The monitor and keyboard put up with this,
> >  plug them back in and start typing.
> >
> > The mouse does not, when I return the mouse is non-existant.
> > True for both PS/2 connected mice and USB.
>
> From what I've read, PS/2 is not meant to be hot-swapped. Certain
> OSes will
> crash if you pull a PS/2 mouse out.

Certain motherboards will crash, permanently, as well; or maybe it's a
combination of motherboard and keyboard. I have seen this a couple of
times over the years.

Gary

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