Webone blocking port 25??

Paul Bryan pa_bryan at yahoo.co.uk
Fri Jul 26 14:21:03 EST 2002

No that sounds interesting!

I can imagine research projects undertaken my universites to create their own 
encrypted, only-get-in-by-prior-agreement network over the top of the 

Even better, hook into internet2 and enjoy the unrestrained bandwidth of a 
public-free internet again!

Mind you, slashdot would have to join up, the kernel archives, apache, GNU, 
and so on and so on... oh I like joecartoon as well so that'd be in.

I wonder if we'd just end up where we started actually?

We'd probably end up having some one like VeriSign granting any one access 
provided they paid the dollars. Sure you could try and create isolated 
networks but then they be ... isolated.

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of it, but reality sets in and it all 
starts again.

On Friday 26 July 2002 10:49, Drake Diedrich wrote:
>    Can you imagine creating a Clue-Required big VPN over the
> old infested IPv4 Internet?  Fully public-keyed, no one gets in without
> three recognized references, and enough addresses for everyone?  Nodes
> on the ClueNet would be required to drop all IPv4 packets at kernel level.
> Granted, there'd be a lot less commercial traffic (no nytimes.com, ..., but
> also no ICANN).  References could be revoked if you failed and abused the
> network, and poof - you're gone, probably never to return.
>    None of the current VPN software looks like it would scale up to this at
> present, and quite a few extensions would be needed to support the
> public-key web-of-trust/quorum side of it.  With Telecoms starting to go
> bust, there might be some dark fiber available for native ClueNet traffic
> some day.
>    Since every node or private net would be keyed, it would also be
> possible to implement a microcharging system, and key it to traffic you can
> control (your outgoing).  To pay your incoming, a server could require the
> initialization packet to include a small signed check for a few 100K of
> data (something reasonably small), and renewed with ACKS as you receive
> data.
>    I suppose this might be a significantly larger project the IPv6 and
> IPSEC were, since it'd have to have some major redesign work to get it all
> going, and be perfect (don't want imperfection where money is changing
> hands..)

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