linux digest, Vol 1 #474 - 14 msgs

Thu Oct 25 12:34:50 EST 2001

At a good guess, I don't think you would want to buy any 2nd hand stuff from Ansett, they were
outdated and old technology that has seena lot of usage.

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>    1. RE:  ansett auction (Bolin, Robert)
>    2. RE: ansett auction (Antti.Roppola at brs.gov.au)
>    3. RE: ansett auction (Ben.Westgarth at facs.gov.au)
>    4. Re: Got TransACT! (Robert Edwards)
>    5. Re: After the election... (Robert Edwards)
>    6. Re: Got TransACT! (Gary Woodman)
>    7. Re: Got TransACT! (Sam Couter)
>    8. Re: Got TransACT! (Sam Couter)
>    9. Re: After the election... (Martijn van Oosterhout)
>   10. Re: Got TransACT! (Darrell Burkey)
>   11. Re: Got TransACT! (Saul Thurrowgood)
>   12. Xwindows client for SunOS (Phil.Arthur at moore.com.au)
>   13. Re: Xwindows client for SunOS (David Gibson)
>   14. Re: Xwindows client for SunOS (Brett Worth)
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> Message: 1
> From: "Bolin, Robert" <rbolin at isr.gov.au>
> To: "'linux at lists.samba.org'" <linux at lists.samba.org>
> Cc: "'Ben.Westgarth at facs.gov.au'" <Ben.Westgarth at facs.gov.au>
> Subject: RE:  ansett auction
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:42:14 +1000
>
> The auction's being run by Hymans - details and catalogue on their site
> http://www.hymans.com.au/ with the auction in Deakin - however if you're
> interested I'd get a wriggle on - it started at 11am today...
>
> Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> (snipped)
>
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> Message: 14
> To: linux at samba.org
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:30:17 +1000
> Subject: ansett auction
> From: Ben.Westgarth at facs.gov.au
>
> I have just been told that there is an auction in progress out at Canberra
> airport where they're selling off a whole bunch of ansett stuff. Does anyone
> know anything about this? Does it include any computer hardware? Who's
> handling
> the auction? Is there a catalogue available? I don't want to leave work just
> to
> turn up, pay $400 for one hour of parking and bid on a baggage handler.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ben Westgarth
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> From: Antti.Roppola at brs.gov.au
> To: Ben.Westgarth at facs.gov.au, linux at samba.org
> Subject: RE: ansett auction
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 12:20:36 +1000
>
> There was an advert in the Canberra Times on the weekend,
> some Cisco stuff, some x86 server hardware, desktop PCs.
> Not a huge amount and nothing that exciting.
>
> I wouldn't buy anything on such short notice. Go to inspection
> the day before and suss out any equipment before deciding on
> how much you are willing to pay for it.
>
> Don't worry, some silly person will pay far to much for it
> anyway. The last auction I went to, someone paid $150 for
> a *dead* 9Gb hard drive.
>
> Antti
>
> > I have just been told that there is an auction in progress
> > out at Canberra
> > airport where they're selling off a whole bunch of ansett
> > stuff. Does anyone
> > know anything about this? Does it include any computer
> > hardware? Who's handling
> > the auction? Is there a catalogue available? I don't want to
> > leave work just to
> > turn up, pay $400 for one hour of parking and bid on a
> > baggage handler.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Ben Westgarth
> >
> >
> >
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> To: Antti.Roppola at brs.gov.au
> Cc: linux at samba.org
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 12:22:12 +1000
> Subject: RE: ansett auction
> From: Ben.Westgarth at facs.gov.au
>
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> That'll learn me to read the paper.
>
> Cheers, Ben Westgarth
>
> Antti.Roppola at brs.gov.au on 24/10/2001 12:20:36
>
> To:   Ben Westgarth/User/FaCS at FaCS, linux at samba.org
> cc:
>
> Subject:  RE: ansett auction
>
> There was an advert in the Canberra Times on the weekend,
> some Cisco stuff, some x86 server hardware, desktop PCs.
> Not a huge amount and nothing that exciting.
>
> I wouldn't buy anything on such short notice. Go to inspection
> the day before and suss out any equipment before deciding on
> how much you are willing to pay for it.
>
> Don't worry, some silly person will pay far to much for it
> anyway. The last auction I went to, someone paid $150 for
> a *dead* 9Gb hard drive.
>
> Antti
>
> > I have just been told that there is an auction in progress
> > out at Canberra
> > airport where they're selling off a whole bunch of ansett
> > stuff. Does anyone
> > know anything about this? Does it include any computer
> > hardware? Who's handling
> > the auction? Is there a catalogue available? I don't want to
> > leave work just to
> > turn up, pay $400 for one hour of parking and bid on a
> > baggage handler.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Ben Westgarth
> >
> >
> >
>
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> Message: 4
> From: Robert Edwards <bob at cs.anu.edu.au>
> To: Gary Woodman <antigramp at yahoo.com.au>, linux at samba.org
> Subject: Re: Got TransACT!
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 12:40:10 +1000
>
> On Wednesday 24 October 2001 09:41, Gary Woodman wrote:
> > --- Bob Edwards <Robert.Edwards at anu.edu.au> wrote:
> > > such time as TransACT enable peer-peer networking (I am quite happy
> > > with
> > > my 11Mbps wireless link for Internet access). I am hoping this act
> > > might encourage TransACT to think that there actually is a demand for
> > > the (free) peer-peer service.
> >
> > They might be aware that the demand only comes from networking hackers
> > like you (OK, like us :-). Perhaps they're afraid that people like you
> > (OK, like us) will be offering Internet connectivity in the free
> > Transact peering cloud, cutting the legs off some of their commercial
> > relationships.
> >
> Actually, the guy I spoke with at TransACT this morning (on their residential
> users helpdesk) was well aware of the attraction of peer-peer networking
> and is pursuing a date for it through the "powers that be". I asked him to
> unsubscribe me from the "TransWEB" data service and he suggested I
> hold off on that for a day or two until he determines when peer-peer will
> be available. So... it could be anytime real soon now!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Edwards.
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> From: Robert Edwards <bob at cs.anu.edu.au>
> To: Steven Hanley <sjh at wibble.net>, Steven Hanley <sjh at svana.org>,
>         CLUG List <linux at samba.org>
> Subject: Re: After the election...
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 12:51:10 +1000
>
> On Wednesday 24 October 2001 09:53, Steven Hanley wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 11:23:39PM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
> > > Is there a website that is more up-to-date than evacs.samba.org? It's
> > > several months old and the CVS repository is also extremely old. It may
> > > be open source but I can't find the code anywhere.
> >
> > quick answer, no
> >
> > longer answer, I was speaking with someone from software improvements, they
> > said the stuff on evacs.samba.org was sort of there as a proof of concept,
> > the development stayed in house from then on, however as it is open source
> > software it does have to go up somewhere, this person said it will be put
> > up somewhere soon, the current code that was used for the election.
>
> Even longer answer: I went to a lecture by Carol Boughton, a (the?) director
> of Software Improvements on Monday and she was asked this question. The
> answer she gave is that the software will be put up on their CVS site when the
> ACT Electoral Commissioner (Phil Green) authorises it, and most likely not
> before the end of the election counting process which will continue for the
> next week or so.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Edwards.
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 20:21:45 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Gary Woodman <antigramp at yahoo.com.au>
> Subject: Re: Got TransACT!
> To: linux at samba.org
>
> --- Peter Barker <pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
>
> > How many other people here would pay for the service _if_ they had
> > a local "loopback" ISP, and will not while they don't?
>
> I don't have a television, but I do have a phone. TransACT has no
> appeal to me without IP connectivity. What it's worth per month depends
> to whom I could connect (and obviously I don't play games).
>
> Gary
>
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> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> From: Sam Couter <sam at topic.com.au>
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 13:22:59 +1000
> To: linux at samba.org
> Subject: Re: Got TransACT!
>
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> Robert Edwards <bob at cs.anu.edu.au> wrote:
> > Actually, the guy I spoke with at TransACT this morning (on their residen=
> tial
> > users helpdesk) was well aware of the attraction of peer-peer networking
> > and is pursuing a date for it through the "powers that be". I asked him to
> > unsubscribe me from the "TransWEB" data service and he suggested I
> > hold off on that for a day or two until he determines when peer-peer will
> > be available. So... it could be anytime real soon now!
>
> Or perhaps he's doing the salesdroid thing and hoping you'll either
> change your mind and decide you really do want the service or simply
> forget to ring them back again and get unsubscribed.
>
> Call me cynical.
> --=20
> Sam Couter          |   Internet Engineer   |   http://www.topic.com.au/
> sam at topic.com.au    |   tSA Consulting      |
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> Message: 8
> From: Sam Couter <sam at topic.com.au>
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 13:31:44 +1000
> To: linux at samba.org
> Subject: Re: Got TransACT!
>
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> Peter Barker <pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
> > How many other people here would pay for the service _if_ they had=20
> > a local "loopback" ISP, and will not while they don't?
>
> I would, but if they don't make it available soon (or put a date on it)
> I'll get ADSL. Once I've got ADSL, I'll be unlikely to change to TransACT.
> --=20
> Sam Couter          |   Internet Engineer   |   http://www.topic.com.au/
> sam at topic.com.au    |   tSA Consulting      |
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> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 13:45:24 +1000
> From: Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog at svana.org>
> To: Robert Edwards <bob at cs.anu.edu.au>
> Cc: CLUG List <linux at samba.org>
> Subject: Re: After the election...
> Reply-To: Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog at svana.org>
>
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 12:51:10PM +1000, Robert Edwards wrote:
> > Even longer answer: I went to a lecture by Carol Boughton, a (the?) director
> > of Software Improvements on Monday and she was asked this question. The
> > answer she gave is that the software will be put up on their CVS site when the
> > ACT Electoral Commissioner (Phil Green) authorises it, and most likely not
> > before the end of the election counting process which will continue for the
> > next week or so.
>
> Wierd. What they afraid of? That we'll find a bug and invalidate the whole
> election?
>
> Oh well, we'll just have to be patient then...
> --
> Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog at svana.org>
> http://svana.org/kleptog/
> > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer:
> > if you have two of them, the third one comes free.
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 13:55:37 +1000 (EST)
> From: Darrell Burkey <dazza at tucan.net>
> To: Sam Couter <sam at topic.com.au>
> Cc: <linux at samba.org>
> Subject: Re: Got TransACT!
>
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Sam Couter wrote:
>
> > Robert Edwards <bob at cs.anu.edu.au> wrote:
> > > Actually, the guy I spoke with at TransACT this morning (on their residential
> > > users helpdesk) was well aware of the attraction of peer-peer networking
> > > and is pursuing a date for it through the "powers that be". I asked him to
>
> Computing Assistance Support & Education (CASE - http://www.case.org.au)
> spoke with TransACT long ago about the significant community development
> opportunities that would be possible with the advent of a high speed
> network in our community. I also remember quite
> clearly being told at PCUG presentations that this would be offered.
>
> IMHO,
> local peering is one of the few reasons I would even consider using the
> service. After all, at .19/meg additional data charges (after a relatively
> small allowance) who could afford such a service? It will be great for
> local and pay TV, and maybe even telephone services but hey gang - anyone
> remember why the net is so popular? And what enabled it to become what it
> is? Hint, starts with an "O".
>
> Cheers.
>
> --
> ______________________________________________________
> Darrell Burkey                            0408 622 647
> http://www.tucan.net/darrell             Canberra, ACT
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 14:01:56 +1000 (EST)
> From: Saul Thurrowgood <saul at cvs.anu.edu.au>
> To: Sam Couter <sam at topic.com.au>
> Cc: linux at samba.org
> Subject: Re: Got TransACT!
>
> > Peter Barker <pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
> > > How many other people here would pay for the service _if_ they had
> > > a local "loopback" ISP, and will not while they don't?
> >
> > I would, but if they don't make it available soon (or put a date on it)
> > I'll get ADSL. Once I've got ADSL, I'll be unlikely to change to TransACT.
>
> Agreed. I already have enough television, and don't make many phone
> calls from home. ADSL seems cheaper than any deal through TransACT, so if
> they don't offer something more, and soon, they're going to lose my
> (potential) business also.
>
> Saul.
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> From: Phil.Arthur at moore.com.au
> To: linux at lists.samba.org
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 15:15:28 +1000
> Subject: Xwindows client for SunOS
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Does anyone know how to set up a linux box (using slackware at the moment) to
> start a remote Solaris CDE xwindows session? I thought it may be pretty straight
> forward, but I have never dabbled in such things.
>
> Cheers
>
> Phil Arthur
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 16:04:45 +1000
> From: David Gibson <david at gibson.dropbear.id.au>
> To: linux at lists.samba.org
> Subject: Re: Xwindows client for SunOS
>
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 03:15:28PM +1000, Phil.Arthur at moore.com.au wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Does anyone know how to set up a linux box (using slackware at the moment) to
> > start a remote Solaris CDE xwindows session? I thought it may be pretty straight
> > forward, but I have never dabbled in such things.
>
> X -query <hostname of Solaris machine>
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:19:32 +1000 (EST)
> From: Brett Worth <brettw at cray.com.au>
> To: <Phil.Arthur at moore.com.au>
> Cc: <linux at lists.samba.org>
> Subject: Re: Xwindows client for SunOS
>
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 Phil.Arthur at moore.com.au wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know how to set up a linux box (using slackware at the moment) to
> > start a remote Solaris CDE xwindows session? I thought it may be pretty straight
> > forward, but I have never dabbled in such things.
>
> I've not done this so these instructions might not be 100% acurate but...
>
> On the Solaris side:
>
> Get dtlogin doing xdmcp to remote X servers
>         Copy /usr/dt/config/Xconfig to /etc/dt/config/Xconfig
>         Uncomment "Dtlogin.requestPort:" and "Dtlogin*authorize:"
>         Set Dtlogin.requestPort: to 177
>         Set Dtlogin*authorize: to False
>         Kill and restart dtlogin. (or whatever it is that dtlogin wants)
> Make sure the font server is running (fs) and configured.
>
> On the Linux box:
>
>         Add to the end of /etc/inittab:
>         x2:5:respawn:/usr/bin/X11/X -fp tcp/sun_host_name:7100 -query sun_host_name vt08 :1.0
>
> Then to get Linux login: <CTRL><ALT>F7
> To get CDE login:  <CTRL><ALT>F8
>
> I've suggested doing the font server thang so that the Sun fonts will be available.  An
> alternative is to install the Sun fonts directly on the Linux system buy hey, isn't that
> what font servers are for?
>
> Also there might be a more secure way of getting the xdmcp access than to set authorize to
> false but that would require reading something.
>
> > Phil Arthur
>
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