It's still out. A four day outage is not a technical problem, it's a management problem one way or another. Kim -- -- Kim Holburn Network Consultant P/F: +61 2 61258620 M: +61 0417820641 Email: kim.holburn at anu.edu.au - PGP Public Key on request Life is complex - It has real and imaginary parts. Andrea Leistra (rec.arts.sf.written.Robert-jordan)