Mozilla 0.9.6 problem

Damien Elmes resolve at repose.cx
Tue Nov 27 03:50:43 EST 2001


jeremy at itassist.net.au writes:

> Oh no... wait... we have another bug report.  My g/f says she was using
> the browser with the dragon and it just crashed while she was
> netsurfing.  I'll be sure to put that in the bug-tracking database...
> they'll be delighted to hear that one.
> 
> She's standing behind me at the moment, mumbling something about "you
> said linux was good...  I just got to the page I wanted".  Like I don't
> have enough trouble advocating Linux without it's programs crashing like
> MS Explorer (remember most end users can't tell the diff between a
> browser and an operating system).

i'm sorry to hear you've had bad experiences with mozilla, jeremy. i
don't use it directly any more, but instead use galeon which uses
mozilla's rendering technology, and it does a superb job. on the
odd occasion when it does crash, your session is saved, and galeon
will offer to resume where it left off - so no more lost URLs.

> Why do people keep pushing testing releases as "useful releases"?
> Usually anything marked 0.x means "still in development", except for the
> mozilla true believers for whom it means "almost but really not quite in
> development you should use it but we'll flip out if you mention it's not
> as stable as any other web browser you're a traitor to the open source
> movement if you use KDE you know"

well, i'd like to believe people are generally good willed. my guess
is that they've had good experiences with mozilla, and thus want to
"share and enjoy" (i've recently been listening to the hitchhiker's
guide to the galaxy :-). perhaps there is software on your machine
which is causing mozilla to act differently to the people you've
spoken to recommending it, or maybe your web browsing habits just come
across sites which the majority of the userbase don't view on a
regular basis.

i'm not suggesting there aren't bugs left in mozilla, for there are
plenty. and if you're happy with konqueror, that's great - konqueror
is a great browser. the main reason i use galeon is that it has some
nifty stuff not present (in whole) in other browsers, such as the
combination of tabs, session management, a sophisticated bookmark
editor, oft-used config options being present in menus as well as the
prefs dialog (such as user fonts, proxy, etc). 

anyway, my point was that i don't think you should attribute this to
malice. there's no plot to convince the world to use bad software; the
flippant replies you receive about filing a bug report are probably
just a case of "it works for me". 

> Hmmm.  So you don't have any troubles with it... must be the rest of the
> world who aren't up to scratch.

hmm. :-)


cheers,

-- 
Damien Elmes
resolve at repose.cx




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