On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Howard Lowndes wrote: > But wouldn't that have made it 36000 seconds even later, or am I not > thinking straight. 0 local time corresponds to 36000 UTC, so 1 jan 1970 is actually negative with respect to local time, $ date --date="1 jan 1970" +%s -36000 Cheers, Ian McCulloch