[jcifs] Is the work-around also the answer?

Bret Comstock Waldow bcw1000 at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 23 00:17:40 MDT 2011


As I mentioned in another post, I am supporting software that uses
jCIFS.  I am newly arrived on the job, and I'm assigned a problem in
software someone else wrote, although I can duplicate the problem.

The "pre-authentication" work-around solves our problem, and I am tasked
with finding out if there is a deeper problem that needs to be fixed.

Our Windows OS clients use Single-Sign-On (SSO) authentication against
an Active Directory server to gain access to our data servers (a
Weblogic-deployed app backed by Oracle).

We don't manage the AD server, and our relationship with the company
that does is delicate - we had to involve management to get answers from
them.  I can ping the servers, and perhaps script against them, but I
can't really expect much response from them although with clear
questions to ask, I might be able to get answers.

We are using the pre-authentication solution to deal with a problem that
cropped up this last June.  The system mentioned above had authenticated
clients for years without problems, and then began rejecting sign-ons. 
One of the fixes we tried was to switch from jCIFS 1.2.13 to 1.3.16, but
that made no difference.

By adding or removing the stanzas below, I can prevent or cause the
sign-on problem:


When this is removed, the first logon may authenticate, and the second
is rejected.  The first may open several clients - a different login is

1) If I am to report this is the way it is, I must be able to justify
that somehow.  Is it Microsoft's error in their implementation of NTLM? 
If this is the best that can be expected, why is that so?

I can say "this is how it is" as long as I have something more than
"because that's all I can find" to go on.

2) Why did this work until June of this year, and then fail?  Can anyone
provide an idea of what might have caused that behaviour, and (big help)
suggest a way to check to confirm what may have changed?  Having a
theory would be very helpful.

I will be happy to carry out queries and report results (subject to
revealing company info) in order to give more to go on.  Any discussion
of what the mechanisms involved (in the problem) are would also be
helpful - there's a lot to educate myself on, and no guarantee I'll
start in the right place.  Note that I don't have a mandate to learn all
about AD & NTLM - just put the problem to rest & be sure it won't happen
again - so there's some time pressure for me.

I am a Java coder, but not knowledgeable about AD & NTLM & jCIFS, so
please use a few more words than less, so I have some terms to search for.

Thanks for any help and suggestions.


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