On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 06:42:44 +0200 Thomas Bley <thomas.bley at simple-groupware.de> wrote: > Is w2k3 using the second method ? (I'm using w2k3 without ad) I don't think it's specific to a particular windows version but if you can get a packet capture I can confirm that you are or are not seeing the "mystery method". Mike