[jcifs] RE: Kerberos, NTLMSSP, IODs

Allen, Michael B (RSCH) Michael_B_Allen at ml.com
Wed Aug 14 09:10:02 EST 2002


Forwarding into the archives for decipering at a later time.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Steven French [SMTP:sfrench at us.ibm.com]
> Sent:	Tuesday, August 13, 2002 5:28 PM
> To:	Michael_B_Allen at ml.com; samba-technical at samba.org
> Subject:	Re:
> Importance:	Low
> 
> 
> The negprot response is interestingly different between Samba head and
> Win2K although it may be harmless. The oids are in reverse order in Samba
> from the OIDs in spnego negprot security blob that Win2K server sends and
> one oid is missing.  Presumably this ordering encourages the client to use
> NTLMSSP when going to Samba while the clients would be encouraged to use
> Kerberos when going to Win2K.  The missing oid is 10 bytes - 2a 86 48 86 f7
> 12 01 02 02 03 which appears to be an interesting subdialect of ("user to
> user") Kerberos ticket exchange which is even documented. Take a look at:
> http://www.wedgetail.com/jcsi/2.2/kerberos/apidocs/com/dstc/security/kerberos/gssapi/package-summary.html
>  which mentions draft-swift-win2k-krb-user2user-02.txt    It is not clear
> whether the missing encryption type is important (it seems optional). Samba
> server seems to prefer NTLMSSP (by listing it first, before Kerberos in the
> Negprot response) so the client might not even use it if the missing
> Kerberos OID were offered.  In addition the security blob in the NTLMSSP
> final SessSetup Response is 0 bytes in the Samba case and non-zero
> (although the ASN1 equivalent of an empty response) in the Win2K response.
> 
> Steve French
> Senior Software Engineer
> Linux Technology Center - IBM Austin
> phone: 512-838-2294
> email: sfrench at us.ibm.com
> 
> 




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