[cifs-protocol] [EXTERNAL] Re: [MS-APDS] NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO message - TrackingID#2405210040011397

Wed Jul 10 02:08:19 UTC 2024

Hi Sreekanth,

I’m afraid that using 0x03 for the message type still gets me 
STATUS_INVALID_PARAMETER codes.

0x03 is the message type corresponding to KERB_VERIFY_PAC_REQUEST, which 
is used for the older method of PAC verification. But the message I’m 
attempting to send is NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO ([MS-APDS] 2.2.2.1), 
which includes the entire Kerberos ticket and is used in the newer 
method of PAC verification.

What do I need to do to get Windows Server 2019 to accept a 
NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO message? I don’t see any information 
indicating that Windows Server 2019 doesn’t support such messages.

Cheers,
Jo (she/her)

On 10/07/24 7:12 am, Sreekanth Nadendla wrote:
> Hello Jo, can you change the message type from 0x00000026  ( byte 
> sequence seen as 26 00 00 00 below)  to 0x00000003 (to indicate message 
> type of KerbVerifyPacMessage) and try this again ?
> 
> 0:002> db ProtocolSubmitBuffer L0x5e0
> 
> 00000218`69819c80  26 00 00 00 00 00 11 00-21 00 31 00 c0 05 00 00 
>   &.......!.1.....
> 00000218`69819c90  00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00-00 00 00 00 c0 05 00 00 
>   ................
> 00000218`69819ca0  61 82 05 bc 30 82 05 b8-a0 03 02 01 05 a1 0d 1b 
>   a...0...........
> .. ..... .. ..... .. .....
> .. ..... .. ..... .. .....
> .. ..... .. ..... .. .....
> 00000218`6981a250  85 1d 35 87 38 7d b1 5b-52 c0 c3 e4 30 c8 77 7d 
>   ..5.8}.[R...0.w}
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sreekanth Nadendla
> 
> Microsoft Windows Open Specifications
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Jo Sutton <jsutton at samba.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 2, 2024 6:23 PM
> *To:* Sreekanth Nadendla <srenaden at microsoft.com>; 
> cifs-protocol at lists.samba.org <cifs-protocol at lists.samba.org>
> *Cc:* Microsoft Support <supportmail at microsoft.com>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [cifs-protocol] [MS-APDS] 
> NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO message - TrackingID#2405210040011397
> Thank you, Sreekanth. I’ve uploaded a trace and network capture of a
> call to NetrLogonSamLogonEx() attempting to validate a service ticket.
> 
> Cheers,
> Jo (she/her)
> 
> On 3/07/24 2:02 am, Sreekanth Nadendla wrote:
>  > Hello Jo,  you may have gotten an invitation to upload files by now.
>  > Please check your e-mail folders and let me know otherwise.
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  >
>  > Sreekanth Nadendla
>  >
>  > Microsoft Windows Open Specifications
>  >
>  > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  > *From:* Jo Sutton <jsutton at samba.org>
>  > *Sent:* Monday, July 1, 2024 10:01 PM
>  > *To:* Sreekanth Nadendla <srenaden at microsoft.com>;
>  > cifs-protocol at lists.samba.org <cifs-protocol at lists.samba.org>
>  > *Cc:* Microsoft Support <supportmail at microsoft.com>
>  > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [cifs-protocol] [MS-APDS]
>  > NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO message - TrackingID#2405210040011397
>  > On second thoughts, I’d rather not send traces via unencrypted email.
>  > Can you provide somewhere for me to upload them?
>  >
>  > Cheers,
>  > Jo (she/her)
>  >
>  > On 2/07/24 1:57 pm, Jo Sutton via cifs-protocol wrote:
>  >> [moving back to cifs-protocol]
>  >>
>  >> Hi Sreekanth,
>  >>
>  >> Call me Jo :)
>  >>
>  >> As I can’t seem to upload the traces via the link you sent me, I’ll try
>  >> to email them to you directly.
>  >>
>  >> The reason for asking about NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO is that we’re
>  >> looking to address 
> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugzilla.samba.org%2Fshow_bug.cgi%3Fid%3D15249&data=05%7C02%7Csrenaden%40microsoft.com%7C75a58a64714f49fb27ff08dc9ae5974e%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C638555558091508750%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=HMGP0yGxJKmnWCLFOEqNFxhu4wmRTFFEkmMglpvvdsk%3D&reserved=0 <https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15249> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugzilla.samba.org%2Fshow_bug.cgi%3Fid%3D15249&data=05%7C02%7Csrenaden%40microsoft.com%7C75a58a64714f49fb27ff08dc9ae5974e%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C638555558091515894%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=nk4AC9bEfOPKGFmU2TfyeuKEf1%2B10GWmqe82CuXJ9Cg%3D&reserved=0 <https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15249>>.
>  >>
>  >> Cheers,
>  >> Jo (she/her)
>  >>
>  >> On 14/06/24 3:39 am, Sreekanth Nadendla wrote:
>  >>> Hello Joseph, I've sent you instructions to download time travel trace
>  >>> tool to collect traces for lass process earlier. But we were informed
>  >>> by Andrew Bartlet that the reason why you've raised the login issue
>  >>> with [MS-APDS] NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO is that you are looking to
>  >>> resolve a privilege escalation problem via enforcement of PAC
>  >>> verification.  I could not see how these two issues are connected
>  >>> hence I'm unable to continue the investigation on my own (while you
>  >>> are away dealing with a personal issue).
>  >>> Please let us know whenever you are ready and we will gather the
>  >>> details, data to investigate the issue you are experiencing.
>  >>>
>  >>> Regards,
>  >>>
>  >>> Sreekanth Nadendla
>  >>>
>  >>> Microsoft Windows Open Specifications
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> From: Jo Sutton <jsutton at samba.org>
>  >>>
>  >>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 9:49 PM
>  >>> To: cifs-protocol at lists.samba.org <cifs-protocol at lists.samba.org>;
>  >>> Interoperability Documentation Help <dochelp at microsoft.com>
>  >>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [MS-APDS] NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO message
>  >>> [Some people who received this message don't often get email from
>  >>> jsutton at samba.org. Learn why this is important at
>  >>> https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification 
> <https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification>
>  > <https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification 
> <https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification>> ]
>  >>>
>  >>> Hi dochelp,
>  >>>
>  >>> I’m trying to follow [MS-APDS] 2.2.2.1, “NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO
>  >>> Message”, in order to create a NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO message that
>  >>> will be accepted by Windows Server 2019. However, in my attempts so 
> far,
>  >>> all I’ve got is STATUS_INVALID_PARAMETER codes from 
> NetrLogonSamLogonEx.
>  >>>
>  >>> Although [MS-APDS] doesn’t mention it, I assume
>  >>> NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO should contain an unsigned 32‐bit 
> MessageType
>  >>> field, set to 0x00000026, that indicates the message is a
>  >>> NETLOGON_TICKET_LOGON_INFO message. Other than that, I’m not sure what
>  >>> I’m doing wrong. Are the ticket fields arrays, are depicted in the
>  >>> diagram, or pointers, as claimed in the documentation?
>  >>>
>  >>> I can provide traces showing the problem if you would like.
>  >>>
>  >>> Cheers,
>  >>> Jo (she/her)
>  >>
>  >>
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