[cifs-protocol] [EXTERNAL] SMB3 ODX Block Aligment: Rounding Up vs Down - TrackingID#2107080040005603

Kristian Smith krsmith at microsoftsupport.com
Thu Jul 8 22:28:56 UTC 2021

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Hi Ralph,

I'll be your point of contact for this issue moving forward. I will reach out to you once I've investigated your proposed SMB issue and have more information.

Thanks for reaching out.

Kristian Smith
Support Escalation Engineer
Windows Open Spec Protocols
Office: (425) 421-4442
krsmith at microsoftsupport.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff McCashland <jeffm at microsoft.com> 
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 11:37 AM
To: Ralph Boehme <slow at samba.org>
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Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] SMB3 ODX Block Aligment: Rounding Up vs Down - TrackingID#2107080040005603

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Hi Ralph,

Thank you for your question. We have created SR 2107080040005603 to track this issue. One of our engineers will respond soon.

Best regards,
Jeff McCashland | Senior Escalation Engineer | Microsoft Protocol Open Specifications Team
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph Boehme <slow at samba.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 11:04 AM
To: Interoperability Documentation Help <dochelp at microsoft.com>
Cc: cifs-protocol at lists.samba.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL] SMB3 ODX Block Aligment: Rounding Up vs Down

Hello dochelp,

I'm trying to implement SMB3 ODX in Samba, but I'm having a hard time understanding FSCTL_OFFLOAD_READ.

Following the spec by the letter to me it seems the client will not be able to do a full file copy.

The problem is this clause:

If the sum of InputBuffer.FileOffset and InputBuffer.CopyLength is greater than ValidDataLength:

- Set InputBuffer.CopyLength to ValidDataLength-InputBuffer.FileOffset.

- If VdlSameAsEof is TRUE:

   - Set InputBuffer.CopyLength to

   - Set VdlTrimmedCopyLength to InputBuffer.CopyLength.

   - Set OutputBuffer.Flags to

- EndIf


I've implemented this as is which results in an incomplete copy. The attached pcap ODX-bad-block-align-truncate.pcapng.gz contains an ODX copy of a file of size 1 MB + 2 bytes.

In this example VdlSameAsEof will be TRUE and LogicalBytesPerSector is 4096.

Due to the

     Set InputBuffer.CopyLength to

the first ODX READ is block aligned rounded down to 1 MB (p.122, TransferLength=1Mb). The subsequent ODX WRITE writes this 1 MB.

Now the client sends another ODX READ with Offset=1MB and CopyLenght=1MB and this time gets rounded down to 0 as per

     Set InputBuffer.CopyLength to

The ODX READ response in p.126 therefor contains TransferLength=0.
Subsequently the client doesn't issue further ODX WRITEs to write the remaining range.

Now, as soon as I change the algorithm from

     Set InputBuffer.CopyLength to


     Set InputBuffer.CopyLength to

ie use BlockAlign() instead of BlockAlignTruncate(), iow rounding up instead of down I see a complete copy. ODX-good-block-align.pcapng.gz contains a trace of a copy of the same file (1MB + 2 bytes).

I've also looked at the sources of the ODX implementation in the Illumos kernel SMB server and indeed it uses "rounding up" instead of down approach too:


   src_rnd_size = (src_size + OFFMASK) & ~OFFMASK;

Can you please verify my findings if either MS-FSA has a bug here or if possible misunderstanding something in the spec?

Thanks a lot!


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