[cifs-protocol] Please clarify LSA and OsVersion behaviour in MS-NRPC (SRX090727600015)

Bill Wesse billwe at microsoft.com
Thu Oct 1 05:45:15 MDT 2009

Thanks for the clarification Andrew; sorry I didn't. I have created a new case for this, and will begin work shortly:

SRX091001600015 "[MS-ADTS] servicePrincipalName nTSecurityDescriptor constraints"

I will look into object security / impersonation, including all of the below (with first effort on servicePrincipalName, of course), and get back to you as soon as I can. My first thought is that the Windows DS Agent simply impersonates 'SYSTEM' - but as you noted, undocumented (which probably classifies this as a behavior note).

[MS-ADTS] Validated Writes Member dNSHostName msDS-AdditionalDnsHostName servicePrincipalName msDS-Behavior-Version

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-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Bartlett [mailto:abartlet at samba.org] 
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:52 AM
To: Bill Wesse
Cc: pfif at tridgell.net; cifs-protocol at samba.org; Matthias Dieter Wallnöfer
Subject: RE: [cifs-protocol] Please clarify LSA and OsVersion behaviour in MS-NRPC (SRX090727600015)

On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 13:22 +0000, Bill Wesse wrote: 
> Good morning Andrew - yes, NetrLogonGetDomainInfo bypasses the servicePrincipalName constraints (as Hongwei noted). This applies to Windows 2003/2003 R2, and was fixed in Windows 2008 and beyond.
> This is currently a bug against Windows 2003, but no hotfix has yet been produced. I will be glad to alert you to when this occurs.
> Here is the response Hongwei provided Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:40 AM:
> We confirmed that Windows server 2008 and later systems addressed the problem by implementing validation of the DNSHostName and SPN in NetrLogonGetDomainInfo to enforce the same constraints as specified in section and in MS-ADTS.

I'm sorry, I must not have been clear in my point:

> Did we determine earlier that these updates occur regardless of the access control on the object (confirmed with AD Dev team, but I don't think it's in the docs).

I refer here to the access control that would normally be imposed by the nTSecurityDescriptor and enforced over LDAP.  It is my understanding (discussion with Nathan Muggli) that these are done as 'SYSTEM' (not the actual workstation account), but I don't recall that being in the doc.

(This isn't a security hole, because you can only update your own record, but it's important to note for those doing an ACL implementation).

Andrew Bartlett

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