[cifs-protocol] 600169 - RE: DCE/RPC PFC_SUPPORT_HEADER_SIGN not optional

Richard Guthrie rguthrie at microsoft.com
Fri Jul 25 18:43:36 GMT 2008


Andrew,

I will be working to resolve your issue.  Would it be possible to have you capture and send us a network trace that captures the behavior you are seeing?

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-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Bartlett [mailto:abartlet at samba.org]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:36 PM
To: Interoperability Documentation Help
Cc: pfif at tridgell.net; cifs-protocol at samba.org
Subject: DCE/RPC PFC_SUPPORT_HEADER_SIGN not optional

MS-RPCE 3.3.1.5.2.2 implies that the PFC_SUPPORT_HEADER_SIGN bit in the RPC bind messages negotiates optional support for header signing.
however, this is not the case - the client (Vista SP1 in this case) will sign the RPC headers if the target security mechanism supports it.

(ie, original style NTLM has unsigned headers, NTLM2 session security signs them, GSSAPI does not, unless using AES per MS-KILE 3.4.5.4.1)

Therefore the documentation for this extension should be rewritten to indicate that this is an informative bit, not a negotiated flag.

(And while painful to me, if this were to be a real negotiation, the attacker this feature is expected to disrupt would be able to simply turn it off).

Thanks,

Andrew Bartlett
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