[Samba] Joining Windows 10 Domain Member to Samba AD/DC

Mark Foley mfoley at novatec-inc.com
Sat Feb 10 21:30:48 UTC 2024


On Sat Feb 10 15:21:24 2024 Kees van Vloten via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
>
> On 10-02-2024 21:17, Mark Foley via samba wrote:
> > On Sat Feb 10 14:48:04 2024 Kees van Vloten via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> >> On 10-02-2024 20:19, Mark Foley via samba wrote:
> >>> On Sat Feb 10 04:36:35 2024 Peter Milesson via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
> >>>> Hi Mark,
> >>>>
> >>>> The NTP requests from linux hosts to time servers do not contain extra
> >>>> fields, just the basic fields that are required. Windows clients tack
> >>>> another 20 bytes to the NTP request. See the following article from M$:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/openspecs/windows_protocols/ms-sntp/824d0b97-59e7-405c-8e0d-7b18b6304d10
> >>>>
> >>>> chrony should work without any problems. Below, I have listed the
> >>>> contents of my chrony.conf file, just for comparison. This configuration
> >>>> works in several domains at the moment. I do not use any chrony keys,
> >>>> though there is an empty file. The file is owned by root:_chrony 0640.
> >>>>
> >>>> You will probably need to assign user _chrony and group _chrony.
> >>>> /var/lib/chrony is owned by _chrony:_chrony 0750. There is also
> >>>> /var/run/chrony owned by _chrony:_chrony 0700.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hope that you sort it out.
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> # Welcome to the chrony configuration file. See chrony.conf(5) for more
> >>>> # information about usable directives.
> >>>>
> >>>> # Include configuration files found in /etc/chrony/conf.d.
> >>>> confdir /etc/chrony/conf.d
> >>>>
> >>>> # Use Debian vendor zone.
> >>>> pool 2.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
> >>>>
> >>>> # Use time sources from DHCP.
> >>>> sourcedir /run/chrony-dhcp
> >>>>
> >>>> # Use NTP sources found in /etc/chrony/sources.d.
> >>>> sourcedir /etc/chrony/sources.d
> >>>>
> >>>> # This directive specify the location of the file containing ID/key
> >>>> pairs for
> >>>> # NTP authentication.
> >>>> keyfile /etc/chrony/chrony.keys
> >>>>
> >>>> # This directive specify the file into which chronyd will store the rate
> >>>> # information.
> >>>> driftfile /var/lib/chrony/chrony.drift
> >>>>
> >>>> # Save NTS keys and cookies.
> >>>> ntsdumpdir /var/lib/chrony
> >>>>
> >>>> # Uncomment the following line to turn logging on.
> >>>> #log tracking measurements statistics
> >>>>
> >>>> # Log files location.
> >>>> logdir /var/log/chrony
> >>>>
> >>>> # Stop bad estimates upsetting machine clock.
> >>>> maxupdateskew 100.0
> >>>>
> >>>> # This directive enables kernel synchronisation (every 11 minutes) of the
> >>>> # real-time clock. Note that it can't be used along with the 'rtcfile'
> >>>> directive.
> >>>> rtcsync
> >>>>
> >>>> # Step the system clock instead of slewing it if the adjustment is
> >>>> larger than
> >>>> # one second, but only in the first three clock updates.
> >>>> makestep 1 3
> >>>>
> >>>> # Get TAI-UTC offset and leap seconds from the system tz database.
> >>>> # This directive must be commented out when using time sources serving
> >>>> # leap-smeared time.
> >>>> leapsectz right/UTC
> >>>>
> >>>> bindcmdaddress 172.16.0.100
> >>>>
> >>>> allow 172.16.0.0/24
> >>>>
> >>>> ntpsigndsocket  /var/lib/samba/ntp_signd
> >>>>
> >>> Thanks Peter. It's clear that ntpd is not responding to the signing requests from
> >>> the Windows computers, though I am certain I built it with --enable-ntp-signd.
> >>> Unfortnately, there is no way to verify it was built that way.
> >>>
> >>> However, chrony just isn't working for me. Here's my /etc/chrony/chrony.conf:
> >>>
> >>> ----------------------------
> >>> bindcmdaddress 192.168.0.2
> >>>
> >>> server 0.pool.ntp.org     iburst
> >>> server 1.pool.ntp.org     iburst
> >>> server 2.pool.ntp.org     iburst
> >>>
> >>> allow 192.168.0.0/24
> >>> logdir /var/log/chrony
> >>> keyfile /etc/chrony/chrony.keys
> >>> makestep 1 3
> >>> hwclockfile /etc/adjtime
> >>> ntpsigndsocket  /var/lib/samba/ntp_signd
> >>> -----------------------------
> >>>
> >>> /var/lib/samba/ntp_signd is owned by group chrony. It's timestamp is unchanged
> >>> after starting chrony.
> >>>
> >>> /var/lib/chrony is owned by chrony.chrony.
> >>> /var/run/chrony owned by chrony.chrony.
> >>>
> >>> I start chrony with:
> >>>
> >>> /usr/sbin/chronyd -f /etc/chrony/chrony.conf
> >>>
> >>> chrony responds fine to the pool.ntp.org servers, but running tcpdump, shows
> >>> that chrony simply doesn't respond to queries from the Windows domain members:
> >>>
> >>> # tcpdump -v -l -i eth0 port 123
> >>> 13:37:05.687333 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 128, id 13312, offset 0, flags [none], proto UDP (17), length 96)
> >>>       192.168.0.52.ntp > mail.hprs.local.ntp: NTPv3, Client, length 68
> >>>           Leap indicator: clock unsynchronized (192), Stratum 0 (unspecified), poll 7 (128s), precision -23
> >>>           Root Delay: 0.000000, Root dispersion: 1.000000, Reference-ID: (unspec)
> >>>             Reference Timestamp:  3916134665.288999699 (2024-02-05T15:11:05Z)
> >>>             Originator Timestamp: 0.000000000
> >>>             Receive Timestamp:    0.000000000
> >>>             Transmit Timestamp:   3916579000.023001399 (2024-02-10T18:36:40Z)
> >>>               Originator - Receive Timestamp:  0.000000000
> >>>               Originator - Transmit Timestamp: 3916579000.023001399 (2024-02-10T18:36:40Z)
> >>>           Key id: 1694760960
> >>>           Authentication: 00000000000000000000000000000000
> >>>
> >>> The "Key id:" and "Authentication:" fields have to do with the ntp-signd
> >>> authentication. chrony sends no response back to 192.168.0.52 or any other
> >>> Windows computer.
> >>>
> >>> Is there something wrong with my config?
> >>>
> >>> Does chrony have to be built in some special way to enable ntp-signd?
> >>>
> >>> If you run 'tcpdump -v -l -i ethX port 123' on your DC, does it show sending a
> >>> response back to your Windows computers?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks --Mark
> >>>
> >> You can check ntp on windows with: w32tm /monitor
> >>
> >> It should list one or more DCs as source
> >>
> >> - Kees.
> > Yes, I know. It doesn't. It lists either "Local CMOS Clock" or "Free-running
> > System Clock".
> >
> > --Mark
> Do you have a firewall enabled on Windows or on the DCs (or filtering 
> network routers in between), perhaps?

No, I believe stripchart on Windows shows that it can contact the DC:

w32tm /stripchart /computer:mail.hprs.local /dataonly /samples:5
Tracking mail.hprs.local [192.168.0.2:123].
Collecting 5 samples.
The current time is 2/10/2024 4:25:28 PM.
16:25:28, -00.0640562s
16:25:30, -00.0645102s
16:25:32, -00.0650520s
16:25:34, -00.0656132s
16:25:36, -00.0661244s

striptchart's request packets do no include the ntp-signd Id and therefore the
DC does reply (192.168.0.4 is a Windows domain member):

16:25:34.612852 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 128, id 21880, offset 0, flags [none], proto UDP (17), length 76)
    192.168.0.4.59581 > mail.hprs.local.ntp: NTPv1, Client, length 48
        Leap indicator:  (0), Stratum 0 (unspecified), poll 0 (1s), precision 0
        Root Delay: 0.000000, Root dispersion: 0.000000, Reference-ID: (unspec)
          Reference Timestamp:  0.000000000
          Originator Timestamp: 0.000000000
          Receive Timestamp:    0.000000000
          Transmit Timestamp:   3916589134.677684699 (2024-02-10T21:25:34Z)
            Originator - Receive Timestamp:  0.000000000
            Originator - Transmit Timestamp: 3916589134.677684699 (2024-02-10T21:25:34Z)
---> No Key Id: in the request
16:25:34.613096 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 63901, offset 0, flags [DF], proto UDP (17), length 76)
    mail.hprs.local.ntp > 192.168.0.4.59581: NTPv1, Server, length 48
        Leap indicator:  (0), Stratum 3 (secondary reference), poll 0 (1s), precision -20
        Root Delay: 0.065856, Root dispersion: 0.003448, Reference-ID: 0x68839baf
          Reference Timestamp:  3916589020.098304969 (2024-02-10T21:23:40Z)
          Originator Timestamp: 3916589134.677684699 (2024-02-10T21:25:34Z)
          Receive Timestamp:    3916589134.612477981 (2024-02-10T21:25:34Z)
          Transmit Timestamp:   3916589134.612684206 (2024-02-10T21:25:34Z)
            Originator - Receive Timestamp:  -0.065206718
            Originator - Transmit Timestamp: -0.065000493

--Mark



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