[Samba] kcc_periodic output

Elias Pereira empbilly at gmail.com
Sat Feb 10 14:29:52 UTC 2024


Hi samba list!!!

Douglas, /usr/sbin/samba_kcc is made in python. Does it have a link to
source4/dsdb/kcc/kcc_periodic.c which is made in C?

The errors that appear in my DCs have their output in the C code.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I read in some old posts on the list that
samba would have a new code for kcc (python code?), which would be
closer to what M$ uses.

Could this have anything to do with the errors I'm seeing?

On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 7:42 PM Elias Pereira <empbilly at gmail.com> wrote:

> What other ways would we have of debugging this?
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 5:39 PM Douglas Bagnall <
> douglas.bagnall at catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
>
>> On 9/02/24 06:35, Elias Pereira wrote:
>> >     for i in $(seq 1 10); do time /usr/sbin/samba_kcc --debug; sleep
>> 5;done
>> >
>> > I ran the command and in one run it lasted more than 2 minutes.
>> >
>> > I've sent you the file if you'd like to take a look.
>>
>> To summarise for the list, one of the runs took 3 minutes, and the rest
>> of them
>> took half a second.
>>
>> $ grep -A2 real Downloads/kcc_output.txt
>> real    2m59.646s
>> user    0m0.387s
>> sys     0m0.163s
>> --
>> real    0m0.504s
>> user    0m0.413s
>> sys     0m0.078s
>> --
>> real    0m0.496s
>> user    0m0.371s
>> sys     0m0.112s
>> --
>> [...]
>>
>> The debug output of each run is identical.
>>
>> Looking at the 'user' and 'sys' lines, we can see that samba_kcc wasn't
>> doing
>> anything extra in those 3 minutes. It was just waiting. For what, I don't
>> know.
>>
>> Douglas
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 8:03 PM Douglas Bagnall <
>> douglas.bagnall at catalyst.net.nz
>> > <mailto:douglas.bagnall at catalyst.net.nz>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     On 8/02/24 11:17, Elias Pereira wrote:
>> >      > Hi Douglas, thanks for the answer!!!
>> >      >
>> >      >     samba kcc command = /path/to/samba_kcc --debug
>> >      >
>> >      >
>> >      > I ran the command and the result is in the pastebin below, if
>> you can
>> >      > take a look.
>> >      > https://pastebin.com/x6W2yWm7 <https://pastebin.com/x6W2yWm7>
>> >     <https://pastebin.com/x6W2yWm7 <https://pastebin.com/x6W2yWm7>>
>> >
>> >     It looks to me like that was a successful run, but I can't see if
>> it was
>> >     slow.
>> >
>> >     If I understand correctly, sometimes it is bad, and sometimes it is
>> not.
>> >     If you run in a loop, something like
>> >
>> >     for i in $(seq 1 10); do time /usr/sbin/samba_kcc --debug; sleep
>> 5;done
>> >
>> >     then you might find one that takes more than 40 seconds -- that is
>> the
>> >     NT_STATUS_IO_TIMEOUT.
>> >
>> >     Douglas
>> >
>> >
>> >      >
>> >      >     But anyway, I don't think this is a samba_kcc specific
>> problem, and
>> >      > https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15568
>> >     <https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15568>
>> >      >     <https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15568
>> >     <https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15568>>is due to the
>> same
>> >      >     underlying issue. I don't know what that is.
>> >      >
>> >      >
>> >      > I opened this bug, but no one has replied yet.
>> >      >
>> >      >     >> UpdateRefs failed with NT_STATUS_IO_TIMEOUT
>> >      >     This is a different replication failure, independent of the
>> KCC.
>> >      >     samba_kcc works out where the DC should replicate from, and
>> the drepl
>> >      >     code does the actual replication.
>> >      >     Both could fail with network weirdness, or if either the
>> local or remote
>> >      >     database is locked up for some reason.
>> >      >
>> >      >
>> >      > And how can I debug this problem? I've searched everywhere and
>> found
>> >      > nothing about it.
>> >      >
>> >      > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 6:40 PM Douglas Bagnall
>> >      > <douglas.bagnall at catalyst.net.nz <mailto:
>> douglas.bagnall at catalyst.net.nz>
>> >      > <mailto:douglas.bagnall at catalyst.net.nz
>> >     <mailto:douglas.bagnall at catalyst.net.nz>>> wrote:
>> >      >
>> >      >     On 8/02/24 02:11, Elias Pereira via samba wrote:
>> >      >      > Any idea how I can debug this?
>> >      >
>> >      >
>> >      >      >>> I don't know the answer to that, but I think setting
>> >      >      >>>
>> >      >      >>>       samba kcc command = /usr/sbin/samba_kcc -d5
>> >      >      >>>
>> >      >
>> >      >     I looked it up. Actually
>> >      >
>> >      >              samba kcc command = /path/to/samba_kcc --debug
>> >      >
>> >      >     *might* produce more interesting results (you'll probably
>> want to use
>> >      >     `less -R` to view the logs).
>> >      >
>> >      >     You can run samba_kcc independently -- it should not do any
>> harm, but
>> >      >     you can use the --readonly flag if you want to be careful.
>> >      >
>> >      >     But anyway, I don't think this is a samba_kcc specific
>> problem, and
>> >      > https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15568
>> >     <https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15568>
>> >      >     <https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15568
>> >     <https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15568>>
>> >      >     is due to the same underlying issue. I don't know what that
>> is.
>> >      >
>> >      >      >> [2024/02/02 20:05:17.752322,  0]
>> >      >      >>
>> >      >
>> >
>>  ../../source4/dsdb/repl/drepl_out_helpers.c:1300(dreplsrv_update_refs_done)
>> >      >      >>    UpdateRefs failed with NT_STATUS_IO_TIMEOUT
>> >      >
>> >      >     This is a different replication failure, independent of the
>> KCC.
>> >      >
>> >      >     samba_kcc works out where the DC should replicate from, and
>> the drepl
>> >      >     code does the actual replication.
>> >      >
>> >      >     Both could fail with network weirdness, or if either the
>> local or
>> >      >     remote
>> >      >     database is locked up for some reason.
>> >      >
>> >      >      >> What does this part of the code do?
>> >      >      >> source4/dsdb/kcc/kcc_periodic.c:790
>> >      >
>> >      >     That just reports that samba_kcc failed.
>> >      >
>> >      >     cheers,
>> >      >     Douglas
>> >      >
>> >      >
>> >      >
>> >      > --
>> >      > Elias Pereira
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Elias Pereira
>>
>>
>
> --
> Elias Pereira
>


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Elias Pereira


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