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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>No problem – glad to have been
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Regards,</span></b><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Bill Wesse</span></b><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>MCSE, MCTS / Senior Escalation Engineer, US-CSS DSC PROTOCOL
TEAM</span><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>8055 Microsoft Way</span><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Charlotte, NC 28273</span><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Email: <a href="mailto:billwe@microsoft.com"><span
style='color:blue'>billwe@microsoft.com</span></a></span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Kamen Mazdrashki
[mailto:kamen.mazdrashki@postpath.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bill Wesse<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pfif@tridgell.net; abartlet@samba.org; cifs-protocol@samba.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Status: SRX091216600027 [MS-ADTS] 3.1.1.2.3 msDS-IntId not
always present<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Bill,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Sorry, I thought I’ve already
answered to this e-mail (I am not, as turns out).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Yes, I think this answers my
questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-- <br>
CU,<br>
Kamen Mazdrashki<br>
kamen.mazdrashki@postpath.com<br>
http://repo.or.cz/w/Samba/kamenim.git<br>
-------------------------------------<br>
CISCO SYSTEMS BULGARIA EOOD<br>
http://www.cisco.com/global/BG/</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Bill Wesse
[mailto:billwe@microsoft.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 09, 2010 6:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kamen Mazdrashki<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pfif@tridgell.net; abartlet@samba.org; cifs-protocol@samba.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Status: SRX091216600027 [MS-ADTS] 3.1.1.2.3 msDS-IntId not
always present<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Good day Kamen – I am resending
the below, as I have not heard back from you<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Bill Wesse <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 05, 2010 10:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Kamen Mazdrashki'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pfif@tridgell.net; abartlet@samba.org; cifs-protocol@samba.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Status: SRX091216600027 [MS-ADTS] 3.1.1.2.3 msDS-IntId not
always present<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Good morning! Thanks for your patience.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Our documentation developers have responded to the questions
you raised. I have provided your original questions and the responses below.
Please let me know if the below answers your questions satisfactorily; if so, I
will consider your question resolved.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>=============================================================================<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Question:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>According to [MS-ADTS] section 3.1.1.2.3 Attributes <<a
href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc223202(PROT.13).aspx">http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc223202(PROT.13).aspx</a>>,
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>msDS-IntId is:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>“Present on attributeSchema <<a
href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc221662(PROT.13).aspx">http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc221662(PROT.13).aspx</a>>
objects added when forest functional level is DS_BEHAVIOR_WIN2003 or greater
with FLAG_SCHEMA_BASE_OBJECT not present in systemFlags <<a
href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc220919(PROT.13).aspx">http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc220919(PROT.13).aspx</a>>”.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>However, when running the test against w2k8 there are lot of
attributes that does not obey this rule.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Please see attached file “w2k8_msDS-IntId.txt”.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>At first I thought that those attributes have attributeIDs
that can be encoded/decoded using ‘default prefixMap’.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>After examining the list though, it turns out this is not
the case for majority of those attributes.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Please see attached file “not_in_default_prefixMap.txt” for
a list of those attributes.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Perhaps I am misunderstanding the documentation?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I need a ‘steady’ rule when to create ‘msDS-IntId’ value for
an attribute in the schema.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Is there any other rule to be applied?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Response:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>As stated in '[MS-ADTS] section 3.1.1.2.3 Attributes', the
msDS-IntId attribute is only present on attributeSchema objects ADDED, if the
forest functional level is DS_BEHAVIOR_WIN2003 or higher.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>There are several attributes in the default AD schema that
are created at setup time before the AD environment is in an operating state
and are not subject to this rule.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>However, attributeSchema objects added after the forest
functional level is DS_BEHAVIOR_WIN2003 or higher will have this attribute
present when conditions are met (FLAG_SCHEMA_BASE_OBJECT not present in
systemFlags). Also note that not all classes and attributes included in the
base schema are marked with FLAG_SCHEMA_BASE_OBJECT.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>=============================================================================<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Question:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Btw, one interesting observation during my tests – adding
‘msDS-IntId’ on classSchema object passes nicely during object creation. After
that, trying to modify this attribute value leads to “CONSTRAINT_VIOLATION”.
And I am wondering – what is the meaning of ‘msDS-IntId’ when used in a
classSchema object<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Response:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Essentially, 'msDS-IntId’, when used on a classSchema
object, means that a client cannot modify the objectCategory of an instance of
a base schema class (the DSA can do this on its own behalf only).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>=============================================================================<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Reference:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>[MS-ADTS] section 3.1.1.2.3 Attributes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a
href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc223202(PROT.13).aspx">http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc223202(PROT.13).aspx</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>msDS-IntId<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Not specified on Add (if specified in the Add request, the
DC returns LDAP error unwillingToPerform); the value (a 32-bit unsigned integer
in the subrange [0x80000000..0xBFFFFFFF]) is generated by the DC. Present on
attributeSchema objects added when forest functional level is
DS_BEHAVIOR_WIN2003 or greater with FLAG_SCHEMA_BASE_OBJECT not present in
systemFlags (below). The value of msDS-IntId is the ATTRTYP of this
attributeSchema object. Unique among all values of this attribute on objects in
the schema NC, regardless of forest functional level. System-only.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Regards,</span></b><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Bill Wesse</span></b><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>MCSE, MCTS / Senior Escalation Engineer, US-CSS DSC PROTOCOL
TEAM</span><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>8055 Microsoft Way</span><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Charlotte, NC 28273</span><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Email: <a href="mailto:billwe@microsoft.com">billwe@microsoft.com</a></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Tel:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>+1(980) 776-8200<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Cell:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>+1(704) 661-5438</span><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Fax:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>+1(704) 665-9606<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Kamen Mazdrashki
[mailto:kamen.mazdrashki@postpath.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 14, 2010 9:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bill Wesse<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pfif@tridgell.net; abartlet@samba.org; cifs-protocol@samba.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Status: SRX091216600027 [MS-ADTS] 3.1.1.2.3 msDS-IntId not
always present<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the update.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>CU,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Kamen Mazdrashki<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>kamen.mazdrashki@postpath.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>http://repo.or.cz/w/Samba/kamenim.git<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>-------------------------------------</span><span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>CISCO SYSTEMS BULGARIA EOOD</span><span
style='font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>http://www.cisco.com/global/BG/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Bill Wesse
[mailto:billwe@microsoft.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 14, 2010 4:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kamen Mazdrashki<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pfif@tridgell.net; abartlet@samba.org; cifs-protocol@samba.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Status: SRX091216600027 [MS-ADTS] 3.1.1.2.3 msDS-IntId not
always present<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Good morning once again Kamen!
Here is what’s up with the TDI…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Your comment:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Btw, one interesting observation
during my tests – adding ‘msDS-IntId’ on classSchema object passes nicely during
object creation. After that, trying to modify this attribute value leads to
“CONSTRAINT_VIOLATION”. And I am wondering – what is the meaning of
‘msDS-IntId’ when used in a classSchema object<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Response:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Essentially, this means that a
client cannot modify the objectCategory of an instance of a base schema class
(the DSA can do this on its own behalf only).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>On another note:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>[MS-ADTS] 3.1.1.2.3 Attributes (<a
href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc223202(PROT.13).aspx">http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc223202(PROT.13).aspx</a>)
says the DC returns LDAP error unwillingToPerform on any attempt to specify
msDS-IntId on an Add operation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I have alerted those concerned
with the TDI to this; the response to your main question (…a ‘steady’ rule when
to create ‘msDS-IntId’ value for an attribute in the schema) is still pending.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks for your patience.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Regards,</span></b><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Bill Wesse</span></b><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>MCSE, MCTS / Senior Escalation Engineer, US-CSS DSC PROTOCOL
TEAM</span><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>8055 Microsoft Way</span><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Charlotte, NC 28273</span><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Email: <a href="mailto:billwe@microsoft.com">billwe@microsoft.com</a></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Tel:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>+1(980) 776-8200<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Cell:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>+1(704) 661-5438</span><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Fax:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>+1(704) 665-9606<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Bill Wesse <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 31, 2009 8:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Kamen Mazdrashki'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'pfif@tridgell.net'; 'abartlet@samba.org'; 'cifs-protocol@samba.org'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Status: SRX091216600027 [MS-ADTS] 3.1.1.2.3 msDS-IntId not
always present<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Good morning Kamen – I neglected
to advise you I filed a Technical Documentation Issue (TDI) concerning the
msDS-IntId attribute. This is still under investigation by our document
developers, and I will advise you as soon as some results are forthcoming.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks for your patience!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Regards,</span></b><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Bill Wesse</span></b><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>MCSE, MCTS / Senior Escalation Engineer, US-CSS DSC PROTOCOL
TEAM</span><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>8055 Microsoft Way</span><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Charlotte, NC 28273</span><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>TEL:
+1(980) 776-8200<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'>CELL: +1(704) 661-5438</span><span style='font-family:"Courier New";
color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>FAX:
+1(704) 665-9606<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Bill Wesse <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Kamen Mazdrashki'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pfif@tridgell.net; abartlet@samba.org; cifs-protocol@samba.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Status: SRX091216600027 [MS-ADTS] 3.1.1.2.3 msDS-IntId not
always present (SRX091020600112 [MS-DRSR] section 5.12.2 - prefixMap
implementation)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the update Kamen – I
have created the following case to track our work. Unless you think otherwise,
I will archive the old case (SRX091020600112 [MS-DRSR] section 5.12.2 -
prefixMap implementation)).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>SRX091216600027 [MS-ADTS]
3.1.1.2.3 msDS-IntId not always present<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I expect to be able to begin work
later today – or by tomorrow morning at the latest.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Regards,</span></b><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Bill Wesse</span></b><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>MCSE, MCTS / Senior Escalation Engineer, US-CSS DSC PROTOCOL
TEAM</span><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>8055 Microsoft Way</span><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Charlotte, NC 28273</span><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>TEL:
+1(980) 776-8200<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:black'>CELL: +1(704) 661-5438</span><span style='font-family:"Courier New";
color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>FAX:
+1(704) 665-9606<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Kamen Mazdrashki
[mailto:kamen.mazdrashki@postpath.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bill Wesse<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pfif@tridgell.net; abartlet@samba.org; cifs-protocol@samba.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Status: SRX091020600112 [MS-DRSR] section 5.12.2 - prefixMap
implementation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Bill,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Finally I have a “msDS-IntId”
attribute.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You can find the test in
“source4/lib/ldb/tests/python/ldap_schema.py” python script.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You can execute the script from
‘source4’ directory as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='color:#1F497D'>lib/ldb/tests/python/ldap_schema.py
-UAdministrator%password w2k8<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>This test is only in my branch
thus you can download it from (sorry for the inconvenience):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://repo.or.cz/w/Samba/kamenim.git/snapshot/1de38d8251c6df7fb23d68033f57c1f8f53bcded.tar.gz">http://repo.or.cz/w/Samba/kamenim.git/snapshot/1de38d8251c6df7fb23d68033f57c1f8f53bcded.tar.gz</a><o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>According to MS-ADTS <a
href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc223202%28PROT.13%29.aspx">http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc223202%28PROT.13%29.aspx</a>,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>msDS-IntId is “<i>Present on <a
href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc221662%28PROT.13%29.aspx">attributeSchema</a>
objects added when forest functional level is DS_BEHAVIOR_WIN2003 or greater
with FLAG_SCHEMA_BASE_OBJECT not present in <a
href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc220919%28PROT.13%29.aspx">systemFlags</a></i>”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>However, when running the test
against w2k8 there are lot of attributes that does not obey this rule.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Please see attached file
“w2k8_msDS-IntId.txt”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>At first I thought that those
attributes has attributeIDs that can be encoded/decoded using ‘default
prefixMap’.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>After examining the list though,
it turns out this is not the case for majority of those attributes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Please see attached file
“not_in_default_prefixMap.txt” for a list of those attributes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Perhaps I am misunderstanding
the documentation?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I need a ‘steady’ rule when to
create ‘msDS-IntId’ value for an attribute in the schema.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Is there any other rule to be
applied?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I need to note here that those attributes
comes from w2k8 default provisioning.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Any newly added attributes
strictly obey the abovementioned rule (I found no way<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>to add an attribute with <i>FLAG_SCHEMA_BASE_OBJECT</i>
flag set though).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>CU,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Kamen Mazdrashki<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>kamen.mazdrashki@postpath.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>http://repo.or.cz/w/Samba/kamenim.git<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>-------------------------------------</span><span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>CISCO SYSTEMS BULGARIA EOOD</span><span
style='font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>http://www.cisco.com/global/BG/<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Bill Wesse
[mailto:billwe@microsoft.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kamen Mazdrashki<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pfif@tridgell.net; cifs-protocol@samba.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Status: SRX091020600112 [MS-DRSR] section 5.12.2 -
prefixMap implementation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thank you – I am quite unhappy
with myself for not seeing this also.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I will certainly keep the issue
open!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Regards,</span></b><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Bill Wesse</span></b><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>MCSE, MCTS / Senior Escalation Engineer, US-CSS DSC PROTOCOL
TEAM</span><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>8055 Microsoft Way</span><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>TEL:
+1(980) 776-8200<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>CELL: +1(704) 661-5438</span><span style='font-family:"Courier New";
color:navy'><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Kamen Mazdrashki
[mailto:kamen.mazdrashki@postpath.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 30, 2009 4:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bill Wesse<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pfif@tridgell.net; cifs-protocol@samba.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Status: SRX091020600112 [MS-DRSR] section 5.12.2 -
prefixMap implementation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Bill,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Good news – Metze resolved the
issue with “not recognized ATTIDs”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>It was in front of me all the
time I can’t believe I’ve missed that (as it turns out, reading matters</span><span
style='font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='color:#1F497D'>):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc223224%28PROT.13%29.aspx">http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc223224%28PROT.13%29.aspx</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Could you please leave the issue
open for as long as I make a test to verify, that rules for msDS-IntId<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>described on the following page
holds true?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc223202%28PROT.13%29.aspx<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I just need to be sure, that if
FLAG_SCHEMA_BASE_OBJECT is not set, then Windows uses msDS-IntId.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>BR,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Kamen Mazdrashki<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>kamen.mazdrashki@postpath.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>http://repo.or.cz/w/Samba/kamenim.git<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>-------------------------------------</span><span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>CISCO SYSTEMS BULGARIA EOOD</span><span
style='font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://www.cisco.com/global/BG/">http://www.cisco.com/global/BG/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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