[cifs-protocol] [EXTERNAL] [MS-ADTS] Procedure for setting msDS-ManagedPasswordId attribute - TrackingID#2311280040000920

Jeff McCashland (He/him) jeffm at microsoft.com
Tue Dec 5 19:48:42 UTC 2023


Hi Joseph,

In studying [MS-ADTS], I believe that initialization and updating of msDS-ManagedPasswordId is already documented in section 3.1.1.4.5.39 msDS-ManagedPassword, where this algorithm is described: 

Define function GetgMSAPasswordBlob(TO: OBJECT), which returns an msDS-ManagedPassword BLOB structure (section 2.2.19) as follows using integer arithmetic where divisions are rounded down without a remainder.

The initialization occurs in step 5 where a new password and key id is created if msDS-ManagedPasswordId does not previously exist (or if the password interval is expired): 
5.	If TO!msDS-ManagedPasswordId does not exist or CurrentKeyExpirationTime is less than the current time, then:

Steps 5.7, 6.5, and 7.5 all describe creating new keys and returning the old password/key as the Previous values: 

	5.	Call MarshalPassword() where:
		§	Current_Password contains NewPassword.
		§	Previous_Password contains OldPassword.

Do you disagree? Is this clear enough? 

Best regards,
Jeff McCashland (He/him) | Senior Escalation Engineer | Microsoft Protocol Open Specifications Team
Phone: +1 (425) 703-8300 x38300 | Hours: 9am-5pm | Time zone: (UTC-08:00) Pacific Time (US and Canada)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff McCashland (He/him) 
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2023 9:52 AM
To: Joseph Sutton <jsutton at samba.org>
Cc: Microsoft Support <supportmail at microsoft.com>; cifs-protocol at lists.samba.org
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [MS-ADTS] Procedure for setting msDS-ManagedPasswordId attribute - TrackingID#2311280040000920

Hi Joseph, 

That is my understanding, yes. 

Best regards,
Jeff McCashland (He/him) | Senior Escalation Engineer | Microsoft Protocol Open Specifications Team
Phone: +1 (425) 703-8300 x38300 | Hours: 9am-5pm | Time zone: (UTC-08:00) Pacific Time (US and Canada) Local country phone number found here: http://support.microsoft.com/globalenglish | Extension 1138300

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Sutton <jsutton at samba.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2023 8:12 PM
To: Jeff McCashland (He/him) <jeffm at microsoft.com>
Cc: Microsoft Support <supportmail at microsoft.com>; cifs-protocol at lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [MS-ADTS] Procedure for setting msDS-ManagedPasswordId attribute - TrackingID#2311280040000920

Thank you. For clarification, does regenerating the passwords here involve updating the account's msDS-ManagedPasswordId attribute? and msDS-ManagedPasswordPreviousId, too?

Regards,
Joseph

On 2/12/23 11:40 am, Jeff McCashland (He/him) wrote:
> Hi Joseph,
> 
> It appears that when the passwords are accessed, the interval is checked and the passwords are then regenerated if they have expired.
> 
> Please let me know if this does not answer your question.
> 
> Best regards,
> Jeff McCashland (He/him) | Senior Escalation Engineer | Microsoft 
> Protocol Open Specifications Team
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Sutton <jsutton at samba.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2023 1:52 PM
> To: Jeff McCashland (He/him) <jeffm at microsoft.com>
> Cc: Microsoft Support <supportmail at microsoft.com>; 
> cifs-protocol at lists.samba.org
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [MS-ADTS] Procedure for setting 
> msDS-ManagedPasswordId attribute - TrackingID#2311280040000920
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thank you for those links. So much of the format of these attributes I had inferred from reading [MS-GKDI]: what I cannot find in either article are details on how the attributes' values are first set and then periodically updated.
> 
> If I were to create a Group Managed Service Account right now and 
> examined its msDS-ManagedPasswordId attribute, I might see a key index 
> of (362, 0, 27). Say the interval after which the managed password was 
> to be automatically changed was set to one day. If I were to examine 
> the same attribute tomorrow, I might then see the key index had 
> changed to (362, 0, 29). Furthermore, I might see that the 
> msDS-ManagedPasswordPreviousId attribute (which had previously been
> empty) had been assigned the previous day's key index (362, 0, 27).
> 
> Evidently the values of these attributes must periodically be updated by some method in order for the managed password protocol to work. My question is: by what procedure should this be done?
> 
> Regards,
> Joseph
> 
> On 30/11/23 7:34 am, Jeff McCashland (He/him) wrote:
>> Hi Joseph,
>>
>> I found a couple of online resources that appear to describe how to 
>> generate the msDS-ManagedPasswordId attribute:
>>
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>> Please let me know if these help any.
>>
>> Best regards,*
>> /Jeff M/**/^c /**/Cashland (He/him) /**| Senior Escalation Engineer/
>> | Microsoft/****Protocol Open Specifications Team*
>>
>> Phone: +1 (425) 703-8300 x38300 | Hours: 9am-5pm | Time zone:
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>> *From:*Jeff McCashland (He/him)
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 28, 2023 8:28 AM
>> *To:* Joseph Sutton <jsutton at samba.org>
>> *Cc:* Microsoft Support <supportmail at microsoft.com>; 
>> cifs-protocol at lists.samba.org
>> *Subject:* RE: [EXTERNAL] [MS-ADTS] Procedure for setting 
>> msDS-ManagedPasswordId attribute - TrackingID#2311280040000920
>>
>> [try again- Kristian to BCC
>>
>> *From:*Jeff McCashland (He/him)
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 28, 2023 8:27 AM
>> *To:* Kristian Smith <Kristian.Smith at microsoft.com 
>> <mailto:Kristian.Smith at microsoft.com>>; Joseph Sutton 
>> <jsutton at samba.org <mailto:jsutton at samba.org>>; 
>> cifs-protocol at lists.samba.org <mailto:cifs-protocol at lists.samba.org>
>> *Cc:* Microsoft Support <supportmail at microsoft.com 
>> <mailto:supportmail at microsoft.com>>
>> *Subject:* RE: [EXTERNAL] [MS-ADTS] Procedure for setting 
>> msDS-ManagedPasswordId attribute - TrackingID#2311280040000920
>>
>> [Kristian to BCC]
>>
>> Hi Joseph,
>>
>> I will look into your question and let you know what I find.
>>
>> Best regards,*
>> /Jeff M/**/^c /**/Cashland (He/him) /**| Senior Escalation Engineer/
>> | Microsoft/****Protocol Open Specifications Team*
>>
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>> *From:*Kristian Smith <Kristian.Smith at microsoft.com 
>> <mailto:Kristian.Smith at microsoft.com>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2023 6:39 PM
>> *To:* Joseph Sutton <jsutton at samba.org <mailto:jsutton at samba.org>>; 
>> cifs-protocol at lists.samba.org <mailto:cifs-protocol at lists.samba.org>
>> *Cc:* Microsoft Support <supportmail at microsoft.com 
>> <mailto:supportmail at microsoft.com>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [EXTERNAL] [MS-ADTS] Procedure for setting 
>> msDS-ManagedPasswordId attribute - TrackingID#2311280040000920
>>
>> [DocHelp to Bcc]
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>> [Case mail to Cc]
>>
>> Hi Joseph,
>>
>> Thank you for your request. The case number 2311280040000920 has been 
>> created for this inquiry. One of our team members will follow up with 
>> you soon.
>>
>> *Regards,*
>>
>> *Kristian Smith*
>>
>> Support Escalation Engineer | Azure DevOps, Windows Protocols | 
>> Microsoft® Corporation
>>
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>>
>> /If you need assistance outside my normal working hours, please reach 
>> out to //devbu at microsoft.com <mailto:devbu at microsoft.com>//. One of 
>> my colleagues will gladly continue working on this 
>> issue.//devbu at microsoft.com <mailto:devbu at microsoft.com>//. One of my 
>> colleagues will gladly continue working on this issue./
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -
>> --
>>
>> *From:*Joseph Sutton <jsutton at samba.org <mailto:jsutton at samba.org>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2023 2:53 PM
>> *To:* cifs-protocol at lists.samba.org
>> <mailto:cifs-protocol at lists.samba.org> <cifs-protocol at lists.samba.org 
>> <mailto:cifs-protocol at lists.samba.org>>; Interoperability 
>> Documentation Help <dochelp at microsoft.com 
>> <mailto:dochelp at microsoft.com>>
>> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [MS-ADTS] Procedure for setting 
>> msDS-ManagedPasswordId attribute
>>
>> Hi dochelp,
>>
>> The calculation of the msDS-ManagedPassword attribute depends upon 
>> the values of two other important attributes, namely 
>> msDS-ManagedPasswordId and msDS-ManagedPasswordPreviousId. I can't 
>> find any documentation on how these two attributes are to be set 
>> initially (on the creation of a Group Managed Service Account), nor 
>> on how and when they are subsequently to be updated.
>>
>> Are you able to give me any information on the procedure by which 
>> these attributes are assigned values? - Are they supposed to be 
>> updated periodically?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Joseph
>>



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