[Pfif] [cifs-protocol] Clarify AEAD behaviour for GSSAPIwith AES
Stefan (metze) Metzmacher
metze at samba.org
Thu Jan 8 07:29:11 GMT 2009
Hi Hongwei,
> I just want to check to see if you have any more feedback about the latest update of diagram and text. If you don't have any more questions, I will close the case regarding Gss_WrapEx with AES128-CTS-HMAC-SHA1-96 in MS-KILE.
The diagram and text look good, maybe add a notice that
- right rotation by (EC+RRC) count - doesn't match the rfc, which says
right rotation just by RRC count
But please check with Larry if that behavior will stay for the non-dce-style
case in future versions, there were some discussions about making the
EC+RRC "feature" dce-style specific in future versions of windows.
metze
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> Hongwei Sun - Sr. Support Escalation Engineer
> DSC Protocol Team, Microsoft
> hongweis at microsoft.com
> Tel: 469-7757027 x 57027
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hongwei Sun
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:26 AM
> To: 'Stefan (metze) Metzmacher'
> Cc: Andrew Bartlett; pfif at tridgell.net; cifs-protocol at samba.org
> Subject: RE: [Pfif] [cifs-protocol] Clarify AEAD behaviour for GSSAPIwith AES
>
> Stefan,
>
> We have updated the example for GSS_WrapEx with AES128-CTS-HMAC-SHA1-96 in MS-KILE as per your suggestion. I attached the updated section 4.3 of MS-KILE for your review. Please also see the inline comment.
>
> We really appreciate your help for improving our Open Protocol Documentation.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Stefan (metze) Metzmacher [mailto:metze at samba.org]
>> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 10:03 AM
>> To: Hongwei Sun
>> Cc: Andrew Bartlett; pfif at tridgell.net; cifs-protocol at samba.org
>> Subject: Re: [Pfif] [cifs-protocol] Clarify AEAD behaviour for
>> GSSAPIwith AES
>
>> Hi Hongwei,
>
>>> We finished adding an example for GSS_WrapEx with
>>> AES128-CTS-HMAC-SHA1-96 in [MS-KILE]. The attached PDF document is
>>> the newly added section(4.3) of the [MS-KILE] document.
>>>
>>> We really appreciate your suggestion. Please let us know if you have
>>> further questions regarding this subject.
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>> It would be nice if this example would use ec != 0, as that was exactly
>> not match RFC 4121 and the reason our (heimdal) krb5 code was not able
>> to handle network traffix from windows.
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> We explicitly documented in the latest update that "right rotation by (EC+RRC) count" should be performed.
>
>> You should unify the naming of the resulting overhead, in the diagramm
>> you use 'checksum' and in the test you use 'signature', maybe 'token'
>> would be the better word here, as 'checksum' is a non unique in the diagramm.
>
> We fixed the inconsistency between text and diagram.
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>> An example with arcfour-hmac-md5 would also be very useful, as there
>> the pseudo ASN.1 wrapping arround the token is very tricky.
>> As it's only arround the 'token' instead of 'token' + 'message' +
>> 'padding' as it is for the standard GSS_Wrap function.
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>> Also it would be nice to have a specific example how the RPC layer
>> calls GSS_WrapEx.
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>> It would also be very helpfull to know how the mapping to the SSPI
>> function parameters works.
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> I already responded to you regarding these questions in a separate mail on 11/24/08.
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>> metze
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> Thanks
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> Hongwei Sun - Sr. Support Escalation Engineer DSC Protocol Team, Microsoft hongweis at microsoft.com
> Tel: 469-7757027 x 57027
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