[Samba] Being able to read password hashes

[Achim Gottinger]

Am 21.07.2014 19:38, schrieb Achim Gottinger:
> Am 21.07.2014 19:03, schrieb Jefferson Davis:
>> I was wondering about this as we continue our migration.
>>
>> I have a script that my tech's use to temporarily change passwords so 
>> that they can login as a user for testing config changes, repairs, etc.
>>
>> While I'm still a bit bent about having to rework my entire freaking 
>> account mgmt toolchain due to the massive changes wrought by AD DC 
>> functionality in samba4, it's nice to know the functionality we need 
>> is there.
>>
>> Now to see if I can locate a reasonably-priced time-travel device on 
>> craigslist to allow the extra time needed to do this...
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Stuart Naylor" <stuartiannaylor at thursbygarden.org>
>> To: "Rowland Penny" <rowlandpenny at googlemail.com>, "sambalist" 
>> <samba at lists.samba.org>
>> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 9:21:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Samba] Being able to read password hashes
>>
>> With any Microsoft active directory server you can not get access to 
>> read password hashes you can only change them.
>>
>> Its the fact I can get the hash so easily and also ever-body else's.
>>
>> I am not all that bothered as for this sysadmin its a Brucie Bonus.
>>
>> Irrespective of the website if its not there all I need to do is 
>> throw some cuda cores at http://hashcat.net/hashcat/ and one way or 
>> another I will get it.
>>
>> Should the hashes be so easily available was my main question?
>>
>> I was just wondering what others thought, seems cool enough.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>> -----Original message-----
>>> From:Rowland Penny <rowlandpenny at googlemail.com>
>>> Sent: Monday 21st July 2014 10:24
>>> To: sambalist <samba at lists.samba.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Samba] Being able to read password hashes
>>>
>>> On 21/07/14 10:02, Philippe.Simonet at swisscom.com wrote:
>>>> not cracking : ntlm hash database lookup.
>>> Same difference, the OP said he put a unicodePwd password into a 
>>> webpage
>>> that deals with NTLM passwords and got his plain password back, or are
>>> you missing the point?
>>>
>>> Rowland
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: samba-bounces at lists.samba.org [mailto:samba-
>>>>> bounces at lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Rowland Penny
>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 10:46 AM
>>>>> To: samba at lists.samba.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Samba] Being able to read password hashes
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/07/14 09:29, Stuart Naylor wrote:
>>>>>> ldbsearch -H /var/lib/samba/private/sam.ldb
>>>>> '(&(objectclass=person)(name=Administrator))' name unicodePwd
>>>>>> # record 1
>>>>>> dn: CN=Administrator,CN=Users,DC=office,DC=zentyal,DC=lan
>>>>>> name: Administrator
>>>>>> unicodePwd:: kXh1DQFudwnw+lnHhubyUw==
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.hashkiller.co.uk/ntlm-decrypter.aspx just took 242ms 
>>>>>> to return
>>>>> my password
>>>>> Are you sure? you put a unicodePwd into something that cracks ntlm
>>>>> passwords and got your plain password back??
>>>>>
>>>>> Rowland
>>>>>
>>>>>> Only zent1 as its just a VM running a test of Zentyal3.5
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> After reading this 
> http://technet.microsoft.com/de-de/magazine/ff848710.aspx the 
> unicodePwd is not encrypted and it does not look too difficulta to 
> create the plaintext password out of this base64 sequence.
>
> That article also mentiones that this unicodePwd attribute only exists 
> on servers having ad lds templates applied whom seem to be not 
> neccessary for normal ad behaviour.
>
>
Tried to decrypt an password on my server but it did not work, found 
this old discussion on the samba list about the issue.

https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-technical/2011-December/080849.html

There it is mentioned that the unicodePwd attribute is the nt password 
hash base64 encoded and not and base64 encoded version of the plaintext 
password as mentioned in the microsoft article.

What happens when i add an samba server as an ADDC to an windows AD 
Domain with the AD LDS schema in use. Will unicodePwd return an base64 
encoded version of the plaintext password?