[Samba] MS Word unable to sense file opening by other users

Vladuta Cristian cvladuta at ca-ib.ro
Tue Nov 4 18:32:04 GMT 2003



Thank you for answering. I am testing Samba 3.0.1Pre1 on RH9 .  MS Word 97 keeps opening already opened files without sending any warning as it would normally do when accessing W2K servers.  Same program , same files behave differently with Samba and W2K.   However, I found that Powerpoint is nevertheless able to sense correctly the situation by always giving such warnings  - " test.ppt is already opened by .. do you want to make a copy?" -  I haven't tried other applications such as Excel or else.

I tried every relevant combination of strict locking, locking, oplocks but still couldn't understand why MS Word is unable to sense the file opening!!

I don't have other problems related to authentication, home dirs, roaming profiles, etc.  

Can you please give me a hint , shall I try Samba 3.0.0 ?  

Thank you,

Cristian



		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Jeremy Allison [mailto:jra at samba.org]
		Sent:	04 November 2003 18:22
		To:	Vladuta Cristian
		Cc:	samba at lists.samba.org
		Subject:	Re: [Samba] very odd behavior for concurrent file access in Samba3.0.0 with MS Word

		On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 12:22:34PM +0200, Vladuta Cristian wrote:
		> 
		> Leaving all locks/oplocks by default, there is no way of preventing a second MSWord user from opening  an already open file with no warning message (in a MS network the message would normally be " ..test.doc is already open by ...Do you want to make a copy?")!! No such thing with Samba, as the second user might waist hours on editing an already open file just ending with no results!! Don't you think this is stupid?
		> 
		> How can you advert other users that a file is already open in such situations?  I just want to avoid confusion and make the transition from a Windows file server to Samba transparent.

		Samba behaves identically to Windows 2000 in this regard
		(keeping deny modes on shares). If your application behaves
		one way with a W2K server it should behave exactly the
		same with Samba. Indeed this is part of our test process.

		MS Word does indeed isue this warning against Samba 3.0.

		I'm not sure of the problem you're experiencing but please
		be aware Samba is coded to give the same response as Windows.

		Jeremy.



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