[Samba] Re: Can't see all of the directories in a share with 2.2.7a-1
& RH8...but older version/kernel can
Joe Gerkman
joe.gerkman at gartner.com
Mon Feb 3 22:55:05 GMT 2003
Hi Chris,
Did the checks you recommended (which are some of the ones I always do
when troubleshooting too, but definitely something to keep in mind).
-No changes from default (including binaries/conf files)...no corrupt
files/libraries from what I can tell.
-Tried forced reinstall of Samba 2.2.7a ...no luck
-Same directories are missing from the listing on all 2.2.7a/RH8 hosts
(they're all consistent)...only the RH6.2/2.0.6-9 can sreinstallingee
the full list
Hate to say this, but I ended up using sharity-light just to try it and
it worked, so that's what I'm using until I can figure out why this
seems to only affect our RedHat 8.0/2.2.7a clients.
If anyone finds anything out that sounds similar, please let me
know....as I'd really like to go back to using smbmount/Samba.
Thanks again...and take care,
-J
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 13:35, Chris de Vidal wrote:
> --- Joe Gerkman <joe.gerkman at gartner.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 07:47, Chris de Vidal wrote:
> > > Update:
> > > From a RedHat 8 box with Samba 2.2.7a from a
> > Samba.org
> > > RPM, I could see 1000 directories on a Windows
> > 2000
> > > Pro share.
> > >
> > > From a RedHat 7.3 box with Samba 2.2.7a from a
> > > Samba.org SRPM tweaked to include ACL support, I
> > could
> > > see 1000 directories on a Windows 2000 Pro share.
> > >
> > > I created them with a for loop from my smbmount,
> > not
> > > from within Windows, in case it matters.
> >
> > I figured it wasn't a directory/file number
> > limitation, but wasn't
> > entirely sure...I guess this confirms it...just as a
> > check, were there
> > any particularly large files/directories in there?
> > I know that we have
> > some directories that can get as big a 8 GB in
> > size...just not sure if
> > size plays into this at all either...
>
> This is what I did from the RH 8 box:
> for ((i=1;i<=1000;i++)); do mkdir $i; done
> ls | wc -l
> 1000
>
> At your question, I made a 2GB file in 10 directories
> (I couldn't create a 10GB file.. a Windows problem?):
> for ((i=1;i<=10;i++)); do dd if=/dev/zero of=$i/2GB
> bs=1M count=2000; done
> ls | wc -l
> 1000
>
> I can't explain it. Perhaps some weird/corrupt binary
> or library? Try
> rpm -Va | grep '^..5' | grep -v ' c ' | less
> which will show every non-config file that has been
> modified since being installed from its original RPM.
> Look at libraries and binaries in particular.
>
> Reinstall a damaged RPM with
> rpm -Uvh --replacepkgs --force some_package.rpm
> paying special attention to any .rpmsave/orig/new
> files created, which might move an original conf file
> (so diff the *.rpmorig/save/new with the existing
> file).
>
> Also, ensure you are seeing the exact same files
> missing each time:
> ls > missing_at_12-24pm.txt
> <later, after umounting/remounting>
> ls > missing_at_2-56pm.txt
> diff missing_at_12-24pm.txt missing_at_2-56pm.txt
> Any differences might tell me to look at intermittent
> network connectivity... it's yet another shot in the
> dark.
>
> Sorry I could not offer more specific help; these are
> the troubleshooting steps I go through when looking at
> weird problems like these.
>
> > > Someone shared that the permissions were possibly
> > > incorrect, but that would only seem to apply to a
> > > Samba server, not smbmount. And you're not using
> > a
> > > umask, so the default umask is the one from the
> > > system, which is 0022, making permissions for
> > folders
> > > and files 755.
> > >
> > > The only thing I can offer now is possibly
> > ensuring
> > > that the username you access from the 6.2 box is
> > the
> > > same you use on the 7.x+ boxen. If the usernames
> > were
> > > different, perhaps permissions on Windows hide
> > those
> > > directories from view (but obviously not from cd).
> >
> > Yep...same id...same password.
> >
> > > Oh, and check the DOS permissions on those
> > > directories.. make sure they're not hidden. I
> > don't
> > > know if smbmount obeys that, but it's worth a
> > shot.
> >
> > I'll double-check that and let you know...but as
> > most of the directories
> > are created by a script (on the windows side), and
> > there haven't been
> > any changes to the script, they *should* all be the
> > same...but again,
> > I'll confirm that.
> >
> > > /dev/idal
> > >
> > Thanks again Chris...
> >
> > -Joe
> >
> > > --- Chris de Vidal <cdevidal at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > To the list: We've been having some off-list
> > > > conversation and I wanted to clue you in here.
> > Our
> > > > thread might be useful for posterity's
> > (Google's?)
> > > > sake.
> > > >
> > > > /dev/idal
> > > >
> > > > --- Joe Gerkman <joe.gerkman at gartner.com> wrote:
> > > > > We're using the following command (from a
> > shell
> > > > > script):
> > > >
> > > > First (this isn't your fix but a nicety), it's
> > > > easier
> > > > when this is in /etc/fstab instead of with a
> > script.
> > > >
> > > > It can be done automatically at boot (RedHat
> > > > recognizes smbfs types and waits til network is
> > > > started) or manually with the noauto option.
> > Then,
> > > > you can just run
> > > > mount /blahblah/Data
> > > >
> > > > If you put your password in a credentials file
> > (see
> > > > below), you can protect your password.
> > > >
> > > > Again, not a fix for your issue but I thought
> > you'd
> > > > like to know that.
> > > >
> > > > > mount -f -t smbfs -o
> > > >
> > > > Second, I had to look up -f. man mount:
> > > > -f Causes everything to be done except for
> > the
> > > > actual system call; if it's not obvious, this
> > > > ``fakes'' mount-ing the file system. This
> > option
> > > > is useful in conjunction with the -v flag to
> > > > determine
> > > > what the mount command is trying to do. It can
> > also
> > > > be
> > > > used to add entries for devices that were
> > mounted
> > > > earlier with the -n option.
> > > >
> > > > I have little confidence this will fix your
> > problem,
> > > > but please try it without that flag anyway.
> > > >
> > > > It's just a shot in the dark...
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> username=xxxxxxx,password=xxxxxxx,uid=xxx,gid=xxxxxxxxx,fmask=770,dmask=770
> > > > > //blahblah/Data /blahblah/Data
> > > >
> > > > Another nicety; use this option with mount or in
> > > > your
> > > > fstab:
> > > > credentials=/some/file/chown/root.root/chmod/600
> > > > with
> > > > username = someuser
> > > > password = somepassword
> > > > inside that file. I like to put mine in
> > > > /etc/smb_passwd and I run chown 0.0/chmod 600
> > > > against
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > This lets you avoid putting the password in the
> > > > (world-readable) fstab. Just a suggestion.
> > > >
> > > > > Same command we've been using for a while now
> > (>1
> > > > > year)...but then
> > > > > again, maybe one of the options could have
> > been
> > > > > deprecated????
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, we installed Samba via the RPMs from
> > > > > samba.org...but I've also
> > > > > tried building from source (both SRPMs and
> > plain
> > > > > source)...neither
> > > > > changed anything...
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again for your help Chris....
> > > >
> > > > Don't thank me until I can confirm or deny it
> > from a
> > > > RH 7.3 and 8.0 box to an NT and 2000 Pro (no
> > > > Server/Advanced) share (:
> > > >
> > > > /dev/idal
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 17:45, Chris de Vidal
> > wrote:
> > > > > > Whoa, really strange. Might be something
> > you're
> > > > > > doing, but I'll post my results to you and
> > the
> > > > > list
> > > > > > tomorrow and we can see if it's a consistent
> > > > > problem
> > > > > > with RedHat 7+ and 2000.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are using smbmount or mount smbfs in
> > fstab,
> > > > > > correct?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, how did you install Samba? I got an
> > RPM
> > > > > from
> > > > > > Samba.org (well, an SRPM so I could tweak
> > the
> > > > > > ./configure line).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /dev/idal
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Joe Gerkman <joe.gerkman at gartner.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > Update...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > See 554 files on rh8.0/2.2.7a machine, 627
> > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > rh6.2/2.0.6-9 machine
> > > > > > > (the latter being the true number).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tried copying over the same smb.conf file
> > > > (which
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > thought I'd done
> > > > > > > before)...no change/luck. Also tried the
> > same
> > > > > > > version of samba on a 7.3
> > > > > > > as well as a 7.1 box (same smb.conf file
> > > > > too)...no
> > > > > > > luck there
> > > > > > > either...oh, all had 2.4.x kernel, well
> > except
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > the working machine
> > > > > > > (if that matters).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, 2003-01-30 at 14:05, Chris de
> > Vidal
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > You're using smbmount, right? Sounds
> > like
> > > > > you're
> > > > > > > > seeing only 512 files.. do ls | wc -l.
> > 512
> > > > is
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > nice
> > > > > > > > round binary number and is probably what
> > > > > you're
> > > > > > > > seeing.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I don't have a direct answer, but I'm
> > under
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > impression that there are many broken
> > things
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > RedHat
> > > > > > > > 8.0 (RedHat 7.0 also had many broken
> > > > things..
> > > > > > > > cooincidence??). I wrote earlier this
> > week
> > > > > about
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > RedHat 8-specific problem "cannot find
> > name
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > group
> > > > > > > > ID XXXXX". Others with RedHat 8 have
> > shared
> > > > > > > similar
> > > > > > > > stories, and I'm having no issues with
> > the
> > > > > same
> > > > > > > exact
> > > > > > > > version of Samba on a RedHat 7.3 box.
> > I've
> > > > > been
> > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > RH8 on my main workstation since
> > > > introduction
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > I've
> > > > > > > > found other weirdness.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm not near my RH8 box at the moment
> > but
> > > > when
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > back to work tomorrow I'll test an SMB
> > mount
> > > > > of a
> > > > > > > > Windows NT box. I could try a 2000 box
> > if
> > > > > > > necessary.
> > > > > > > > I'll do a wc -l and see what happens. I
> > do
> > > > > recall
> > > > > > > > having no problems with a Samba server
> > > > (2000+
> > > > > > > > directories) and I can confirm that
> > > > tomorrow.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > First, try copying the smb.conf from the
> > 6.2
> > > > > box.
> > > > > > > > Smbmount seems to read a few lines from
> > it,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > is a chance you have differences.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If you have a RedHat 7.3 box handy,
> > install
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > version of Samba (I agree it doesn't
> > sound
> > > > > > > > version-specific) and try it.. it'd
> > probably
> > > > > work
> > > > > > > > fine. I'll try to do the same.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > /dev/idal
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- Joe Gerkman
> > <joe.gerkman at gartner.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hoping someone might be able to steer
> > me
> > > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > right direction and/or
> > > > > > > > > help me solve my problem.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We have a number of Linux servers
> > (RH6.2
> > > > ->
> > > > > RH8)
> > > > > > > > > which connect to the
> > > > > > > > > same share on a Win2000 Server. We've
> > > > been
> > > > > > > working
> > > > > > > > > kinda hard to get
> > > > > > > > > everything upgraded to either RH7.3 or
> > > > RH8.0
> > > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > > we rarely get the
> > > > > > > > > opportunity. 2 similar servers (one
> > dev,
> > > > > one
> > > > > > > prod)
> > > > > > > > > access this same
> > > > > > > > > window share, which has a large number
> > of
> > > > > > > > > directories (about 620-650),
> > > > > > > > > and the share itself is for a 180GB
> > > > volume.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Just recently we discovered that our
> > dev
> > > > > server
> > > > > > > > > (RH6.2/2.2.14-5.0 with
> > > > > > > > > samba 2.0.6-9) can see all of the
> > > > > > > directories/files
> > > > > > > > > at the root of this
> > > > > > > > > share, but the prod server
> > > > > (RH8.0/2.4.18-19.8.0
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > samba 2.2.x ->
> > > > > > > > > 2.2.7a-1) can not, it can however see
> > a
> > > > good
> > > > > > > portion
> > > > > > > > > of them (about
> > > > > > > > > 554).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There doesn't seem to be anything in
> > > > common
> > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > these "missing"
> > > > > > > > > directories...have checked time, size,
> > > > > > > etc...nada in
> > > > > > > > > common that we can
> > > > > > > > > determine. We did try quite a few
> > crazy
> > > > > things,
> > > > > > > > > like deleting a few
> > > > > > > > > directories to see if we saw more, but
> > > > nope.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > And I
> > > > > > > > > should note that the
> > > > > > > > > directories are there, you just can't
> > see
> > > > > > > them...I
> > > > > > > > > can 'cd' into them
> > > > > > > > > with no problem.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Oh, and I've tried going back to the
> > > > earlier
> > > > > > > version
> > > > > > > > > of samba (same as
> > > > > > > > > on the dev machine - 2.0.6-9), but no
> > > > luck.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Any ideas? Anyone? Please...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -J
> > > > > > > > >
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