From jeremy at itassist.net.au Sat Sep 1 00:15:12 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:17 2003 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20010831101648.21743.qmail@web13201.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 31 Aug, Wayne Vovil wrote: > Thanks, I'm downloading bochs to give it a go. > > "In the clearing stands a Bochser and a fighter by his > trade...." :-)) Hehe. I always see the word 'Boches' or 'Bloches'. Neither are good words to mistake IIRC -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... From jeremy at itassist.net.au Sat Sep 1 00:16:03 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:17 2003 Subject: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20010831101648.21743.qmail@web13201.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 31 Aug, Wayne Vovil wrote: > Thanks, I'm downloading bochs to give it a go. > > "In the clearing stands a Bochser and a fighter by his > trade...." :-)) BTW you may need the occaisional tip to get it to work. Feel free to conatact as necessary. -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... From z at amused.net Sat Sep 1 05:16:55 2001 From: z at amused.net (Patrick Cole) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:17 2003 Subject: XFree86 4.1.0, Radeon VE unresolved symbols In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010901051655.A8224@backdraft.amused.net> Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 12:46:22AM +1000, Mark Hummel wrote: > The problem I'm having appears to be a bit of chestnut, but the solutions > described seemed to assume the existence of a configuration file, when I > am in fact trying to write one. > > Problems with unresolved symbols begin from "VMware Guest X Server > 10.4.0" in the output from XFree86 -configure. The modules that cannot > be resolved included vgaHwSetStdFuncs, etc. I have the radeon drm driver > (from kernel version 2.4.2) loaded as a module. I thought perhaps > something was missing, but the resolution errors don't suggest anything > immediately. > > Does anyone have any suggestions about how to resolve this problem? I've attached my XF86Config-4 from my machine at work which has a Radeon VE. This problem may be the least of your worries though. Notice I'm using the noaccel option, this is because there are problems with the Radeon VE currently such that if you run it in accelereated mode under certain hardware (namely AMD 760/761 chipsets) it locks the machine up solid. See how you go though. -- Patrick Cole - Debian Developer - John Curtin, ANU - Linux.com Helper - PGP 1024R/60D74C7D C8E0BC7969BE7899AA0FEB16F84BFE5A -------------- next part -------------- # XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by Dexconf, the # Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config manual page. # (Type "man XF86Config" at the shell prompt.) Section "Files" FontPath "unix/:7100" # local font server # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" EndSection Section "Module" Load "ddc" Load "GLcore" Load "dbe" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "pex5" Load "record" Load "xie" Load "bitmap" Load "freetype" Load "speedo" Load "type1" Load "vbe" Load "int10" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "keyboard" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "pc104" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Generic Video Card" Driver "ati" Option "noaccel" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic Monitor" HorizSync 30-130 VertRefresh 48-170 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "Generic Video Card" Monitor "Generic Monitor" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Depth 1 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 4 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1600x1200" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen "Default Screen" InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" InputDevice "Configured Mouse" EndSection Section "DRI" Mode 0666 EndSection # end of XF86Config From tmc at goldweb.com.au Sat Sep 1 10:23:27 2001 From: tmc at goldweb.com.au (Tomasz Ciolek) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: penguinppc.org site Message-ID: <20010901102327.C22273@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> Does anyone have a clue as to whats happening with the penguinppc site? They have been of air for a while now, and I cannot traceroute to the www.penguinppc.org address. It just times out after 19 hops... If anyone has any news please advise.. TMC -- Tomasz M. Ciolek * * Everything falls under the law of change; * Like a dream, a phantom, a bubble, a shadow, * like dew of flash of lightning. * You should contemplate like this. ******************************************************************************* GPG Key ID: 0x7A18E49D * Available on www.pgp.net ******************************************************************************* -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010901/edb05ecc/attachment.bin From jeremy at itassist.net.au Sat Sep 1 10:38:58 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: Libc6 malloc bites? In-Reply-To: <20010901102327.C22273@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> Message-ID: I've got a perl program segfaulting. This problem got my interest because I couldn't nail down where it blew out. I was iterating over an array, and the act of adding debugging prints would move which array element would cause the segfault. I also can't localise it to a certain statement. A backtrace shows: #0 0x400b9fe9 in malloc () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x400b9e44 in malloc () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x808b7cb in Perl_safemalloc () #3 0x809e77a in Perl_sv_grow () #4 0x80a1d66 in Perl_newSV () #5 0x80b35b5 in Perl_pp_split () #6 0x80972c0 in Perl_runops_standard () #7 0x805c795 in perl_run () #8 0x805c4fb in perl_run () #9 0x8059ed0 in main () #10 0x4006564f in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 Am I correct in thinking that this is malloc from libc causing the trouble? Is there a chance that going forwards or backwards a version will help? And if it is libc, how can I get more information on how malloc was called? I've tried reading the gdb docos but I'm not a C coder. It seems gdb can track variables, but that doesn't help because Perl isn't going to tag a SV with a name so I can track it with gdb. Any pointers in the right direction would be appreciated. Currently running Perl 5.6.1 on Debian Woody libc 2.2.4-1 -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... From sneakums at zork.net Sat Sep 1 10:43:18 2001 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: Libc6 malloc bites? In-Reply-To: (jeremy@itassist.net.au's message of "Sat, 1 Sep 2001 10:38:58 +1000 (EST)") References: Message-ID: <6u4rqnaggp.fsf@zork.zork.net> begin jeremy quotation: > Am I correct in thinking that this is malloc from libc causing the > trouble? Is there a chance that going forwards or backwards a > version will help? It could equally be a problem with the Perl you are running. If malloc is passed a bad pointer, there is little it can do to avoid eating out its own entrails and dumping core. -- ///////////////// | | The spark of a pin | (require 'gnu) | dropping, falling feather-like. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ | | There is too much noise. From jeremy at itassist.net.au Sat Sep 1 10:48:44 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: Libc6 malloc bites? In-Reply-To: <6u4rqnaggp.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: On 1 Sep, Sean Neakums wrote: > begin jeremy quotation: > >> Am I correct in thinking that this is malloc from libc causing the >> trouble? Is there a chance that going forwards or backwards a >> version will help? > > It could equally be a problem with the Perl you are running. If > malloc is passed a bad pointer, there is little it can do to avoid > eating out its own entrails and dumping core. > OK, cool. Can you tell me how I could check to see if malloc is being passed a bad pointer? I don't really mind what I file a bug report against, just that the problem gets duly noted. -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... From jeremy at itassist.net.au Sat Sep 1 10:55:00 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: NV binary drivers (still is Help PLZ) In-Reply-To: <20010831095025.A3486@smtp.webone.com.au> Message-ID: > This looks like a good point at which to break into the thread - > although my problem is with sound and not with video. > > It is a very minor problem. Everything works, but my `messages' log is > littered with complaints about IRQ conflicts and non-found modules. An > extract is attached. > > Also, my newly-installed NVidia driver seems to work OK, despite the fact > that I have not scored any relevant entry in my modules.conf file. > > Is there any better advice than `If it ain't broke, don't fix it'? Your problem is that something keeps making calls to non-existent devices. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that some program you are running is attempting to access multple sound devices and you don't have them. If you're running devfs then the driver load will be happening automatically, and failing (which is proper). If this is the case, not only is it not broken, it's working correctly. -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... From tpot at valinux.com Sat Sep 1 11:07:52 2001 From: tpot at valinux.com (Tim Potter) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: Libc6 malloc bites? In-Reply-To: References: <6u4rqnaggp.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <15248.13544.86057.669120@frungy.org> jeremy@itassist.net.au writes: > >> Am I correct in thinking that this is malloc from libc causing the > >> trouble? Is there a chance that going forwards or backwards a > >> version will help? > > > > It could equally be a problem with the Perl you are running. If > > malloc is passed a bad pointer, there is little it can do to avoid > > eating out its own entrails and dumping core. > > OK, cool. Can you tell me how I could check to see if malloc is being > passed a bad pointer? > > I don't really mind what I file a bug report against, just that the > problem gets duly noted. If you can boil the problem down to a small reproducible test case you can probably post it to comp.lang.perl.something and someone will probably notice it. Or failing that some perl devel list will do. A few years ago I thought up a really hairy regular expression that crashed perl, posted it to clpm and it was fixed in a couple of hours! Tim. From paulus at samba.org Sat Sep 1 11:14:26 2001 From: paulus at samba.org (Paul Mackerras) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: penguinppc.org site In-Reply-To: <20010901102327.C22273@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> References: <20010901102327.C22273@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> Message-ID: <15248.13938.17618.455856@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> Tomasz Ciolek writes: > Does anyone have a clue as to whats happening with the penguinppc > site? They have been of air for a while now, and I cannot traceroute > to the www.penguinppc.org address. It just times out after 19 > hops... Apparently the ISP where it was hosted went bankrupt, and the machine is in the back of a truck looking for a new home... Paul. From tmc at goldweb.com.au Sat Sep 1 12:25:19 2001 From: tmc at goldweb.com.au (Tomasz Ciolek) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: Libc6 malloc bites? In-Reply-To: <15248.13544.86057.669120@frungy.org> References: <6u4rqnaggp.fsf@zork.zork.net> <15248.13544.86057.669120@frungy.org> Message-ID: <20010901122519.D22273@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> Perl has its own malloc. Is it possible someone complied the package using perlmalloc and not the Linux malloc? I'm not having any problems with perl proggs (wunning current woody) Regards TMC On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 11:07:52AM +1000, Tim Potter wrote: > jeremy@itassist.net.au writes: > > > >> Am I correct in thinking that this is malloc from libc causing the > > >> trouble? Is there a chance that going forwards or backwards a > > >> version will help? > > > > > > It could equally be a problem with the Perl you are running. If > > > malloc is passed a bad pointer, there is little it can do to avoid > > > eating out its own entrails and dumping core. > > > > OK, cool. Can you tell me how I could check to see if malloc is being > > passed a bad pointer? > > > > I don't really mind what I file a bug report against, just that the > > problem gets duly noted. > > If you can boil the problem down to a small reproducible test > case you can probably post it to comp.lang.perl.something and > someone will probably notice it. Or failing that some perl > devel list will do. > > A few years ago I thought up a really hairy regular expression > that crashed perl, posted it to clpm and it was fixed in a couple > of hours! > > > Tim. -- Tomasz M. 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010901/4fdc0a5d/attachment.bin From resolve at repose.cx Sat Sep 1 12:55:08 2001 From: resolve at repose.cx (Damien Elmes) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: NV binary drivers (still is Help PLZ) In-Reply-To: <20010831095025.A3486@smtp.webone.com.au> References: <20010831095025.A3486@smtp.webone.com.au> Message-ID: <8666b3boxf.fsf@reflex.repose.cx> Felix Karpfen writes: > Peter Enseleit wrote: > > > >Any X people out there know what's going on? I'll do it again and post > > >the logs if anyone cares enough.. > > > > > > > Try checking modules.conf. When i installed the NVidia drivers for RH 7.1 > > the rpm added the line > > alias char-major-195 NVdriver to the end of my last entry, not on a new > > line, so the last entry was read by the kernel incorrectly. > > This looks like a good point at which to break into the thread - > although my problem is with sound and not with video. > > It is a very minor problem. Everything works, but my `messages' log is > littered with complaints about IRQ conflicts and non-found modules. An > extract is attached. those are the alsa "meta-modules" which you can either a) point at a valid sound card device or b) turn off, ie in /etc/modules.conf (/etc/modutils/alsa in debian) alias sound-slot-0 off cheers! -- Damien Elmes resolve@repose.cx From jeremy at itassist.net.au Sat Sep 1 14:18:06 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: Libc6 malloc bites? In-Reply-To: <20010901122519.D22273@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> Message-ID: On 1 Sep, Tomasz Ciolek wrote: > Perl has its own malloc. Is it possible someone complied the package using perlmalloc and not the Linux malloc? > > I'm not having any problems with perl proggs (wunning current woody) I didn't know that Perl has it's own malloc, but I'm sure that it's the libc6 one because a gdb backtrace claims that the last call before the segfault was to the libc6 malloc (previous email). Unless it's falling over while returning... possible I guess. I'm not having any problem with other perl progs, just this one. I've posted to PerlMonks and so far noone has said "you're doing a terribly bad thing" so I'll keep chipping away at it. FWIW, here's the offending code. Sometimes it's the split, sometimes it's the foreach and sometimes it's the eval that goes. If I limit $word to be under 5 letters it works fine. sub highlight_block { my ($block, $sep, $word)=@_; #print "Before $word, $sep\n"; my @let = split //, $word; my @rep; my $i=1; foreach my $l (@let) {$l = "(".$l.")(.{$sep})";push @rep, '\u$'.$i++.'$'.$i++;}; my $rep = join "", @rep; my $regexp2 = join "", @let; my $ev = '$block =~ '."s/$regexp2/$rep/i;"; my $res = eval $ev; print $res;$block = $res; print $block, "\n\n"; #print "after\n"; return $block; } -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... From resolve at repose.cx Sat Sep 1 14:26:35 2001 From: resolve at repose.cx (Damien Elmes) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: Libc6 malloc bites? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86elprv8n8.fsf@reflex.repose.cx> hi jeremy, one of the really nasty things about malloc debugging is that writing over a previous pointer can hose malloc's data structures. (as someone mentioned before). this means that the cause of the problem can often be well away from where the errors are occuring. of course, if you're using just highligh_block, then chances are it's a bug in perl. cheers! :-) jeremy@itassist.net.au writes: > On 1 Sep, Tomasz Ciolek wrote: > > > Perl has its own malloc. Is it possible someone complied the package using perlmalloc and not the Linux malloc? > > > > I'm not having any problems with perl proggs (wunning current woody) > > I didn't know that Perl has it's own malloc, but I'm sure that it's the > libc6 one because a gdb backtrace claims that the last call before the > segfault was to the libc6 malloc (previous email). Unless it's falling > over while returning... possible I guess. > > I'm not having any problem with other perl progs, just this one. > > I've posted to PerlMonks and so far noone has said "you're doing a > terribly bad thing" so I'll keep chipping away at it. > FWIW, here's the offending code. Sometimes it's the split, sometimes it's the > foreach and sometimes it's the eval that goes. If I limit $word to be > under 5 letters it works fine. > > sub highlight_block { > my ($block, $sep, $word)=@_; > > #print "Before $word, $sep\n"; > my @let = split //, $word; > my @rep; > my $i=1; > > foreach my $l (@let) {$l = "(".$l.")(.{$sep})";push @rep, '\u$'.$i++.'$'.$i++;}; > my $rep = join "", @rep; > > my $regexp2 = join "", @let; > my $ev = '$block =~ '."s/$regexp2/$rep/i;"; > > my $res = eval $ev; > print $res;$block = $res; > print $block, "\n\n"; > #print "after\n"; > return $block; > } > > -- > I/O, I/O, > It's off to disk I go, > A bit or byte to read or write, > I/O, I/O, I/O... > > > -- Damien Elmes resolve@repose.cx From davey at doa.org Sat Sep 1 19:21:05 2001 From: davey at doa.org (David Murn) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: ATA 33, ATA 66 and ATA 100 In-Reply-To: <86zo8gzi7c.fsf@reflex.repose.cx> Message-ID: On 31 Aug 2001, Damien Elmes wrote: > they're backwards compatible. Also forwards compatible too are they not? ie. old disks work on ata100 and ata100 disks work on old controllers. Davey From tmc at goldweb.com.au Sat Sep 1 19:29:16 2001 From: tmc at goldweb.com.au (Tomasz Ciolek) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: ATA 33, ATA 66 and ATA 100 In-Reply-To: References: <86zo8gzi7c.fsf@reflex.repose.cx> Message-ID: <20010901192916.B25249@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> Correct. Note that an ATA 100 chain with 100 and 33 devices will work as ata 33 only. regards Tomasz Ciolek On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 07:21:05PM +1000, David Murn wrote: > On 31 Aug 2001, Damien Elmes wrote: > > > they're backwards compatible. > > Also forwards compatible too are they not? > > ie. old disks work on ata100 and ata100 disks work on old controllers. > > Davey -- Tomasz M. Ciolek * * Everything falls under the law of change; * Like a dream, a phantom, a bubble, a shadow, * like dew of flash of lightning. * You should contemplate like this. ******************************************************************************* GPG Key ID: 0x7A18E49D * Available on www.pgp.net ******************************************************************************* -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010901/dc06b951/attachment.bin From davey at doa.org Sat Sep 1 19:31:32 2001 From: davey at doa.org (David Murn) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: penguinppc.org site In-Reply-To: <20010901102327.C22273@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> Message-ID: On Sat, 1 Sep 2001, Tomasz Ciolek wrote: > Does anyone have a clue as to whats happening with the penguinppc > site? They have been of air for a while now, and I cannot traceroute to > the www.penguinppc.org address. It just times out after 19 hops... I dunno if its related, but when I tried to reach a site the other day, it timed out at 19 hops, and a friend in the US tried to traceroute and got 19 hops too (stopping at very different locations). Is there some new ttl in the kernel that stops packets at 20? Davey From davey at doa.org Sat Sep 1 19:36:28 2001 From: davey at doa.org (David Murn) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: Libc6 malloc bites? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 jeremy@itassist.net.au wrote: > I've got a perl program segfaulting. This problem got my interest > because I couldn't nail down where it blew out. I was iterating over an > array, and the act of adding debugging prints would move which array > element would cause the segfault. I also can't localise it to a certain > statement. If you're under deban, install libc6-dbg package, type: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/debug Then gdb it again. That is a libc compiled with -g which lets you see exactly what line in libc is causing the segfault. > And if it is libc, how can I get more information on how malloc was > called? I've tried reading the gdb docos but I'm not a C coder. It > seems gdb can track variables, but that doesn't help because Perl isn't > going to tag a SV with a name so I can track it with gdb. I think this could be an interesting talk sometime, how to use gdb at least the basics. I basically learnt the hard way from manpages and trial and error. I think possibly even little groups in corners talking about gdb would, bof's in a way. Ive learnt a fair bit about gdb from other users, just little tips and tricks. Davey From tmc at goldweb.com.au Sat Sep 1 22:32:39 2001 From: tmc at goldweb.com.au (Tomasz Ciolek) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: penguinppc.org site In-Reply-To: References: <20010901102327.C22273@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> Message-ID: <20010901223239.C25249@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> I got an answer to this one form one of the PPC guys. The ISP that supported them has gone bellym up and the box is in back of a truck looking for new home :( regards TMC On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 07:31:32PM +1000, David Murn wrote: > On Sat, 1 Sep 2001, Tomasz Ciolek wrote: > > > Does anyone have a clue as to whats happening with the penguinppc > > site? They have been of air for a while now, and I cannot traceroute to > > the www.penguinppc.org address. It just times out after 19 hops... > > I dunno if its related, but when I tried to reach a site the other day, it > timed out at 19 hops, and a friend in the US tried to traceroute and got > 19 hops too (stopping at very different locations). > > Is there some new ttl in the kernel that stops packets at 20? > > Davey -- Tomasz M. Ciolek * * Everything falls under the law of change; * Like a dream, a phantom, a bubble, a shadow, * like dew of flash of lightning. * You should contemplate like this. ******************************************************************************* GPG Key ID: 0x7A18E49D * Available on www.pgp.net ******************************************************************************* -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010901/ad476c8d/attachment.bin From tmc at goldweb.com.au Sat Sep 1 23:13:46 2001 From: tmc at goldweb.com.au (Tomasz Ciolek) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: A Powerbook question Message-ID: <20010901231346.D25249@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> Hi all PPC linux users. Another question if I may. What is necessary to make a Ti powerbook sleep nicely in X? I have gottent it to sleep (I have 2.4.9-benh0 kernel) with the help form people at CLUG. However, despite my bets efforts, the X just returns in a blan screen. How does one recover that to the pre-sleep state? Also thanks to Paul for the information about penguinppc.org. Does anyone know of an laterante site for benh, or perhaps an alterante email for the man? regards Tomasz Ciolek -- Tomasz M. Ciolek * * Everything falls under the law of change; * Like a dream, a phantom, a bubble, a shadow, * like dew of flash of lightning. * You should contemplate like this. ******************************************************************************* GPG Key ID: 0x7A18E49D * Available on www.pgp.net ******************************************************************************* -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010901/e3323385/attachment.bin From Vineesh.US at MobiApps.com Sun Sep 2 20:16:05 2001 From: Vineesh.US at MobiApps.com (Vineesh U S) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: Installing Insight References: Message-ID: <021301c13398$48057f90$0501a8c0@india.mobiapps.com> Hi Brett Worth, Thanks, I had not installed the XFree86 Development RPM. After installing XFree86 I was able to install insight on my PC. and itz working. Now I have another problem. I'm trying to debug using the TCP/ip to communicate with my target. but it doesn't establish a connection with the target. (I am able to telnet and ftp with my target i.e. my tcp is intact) I guess the problem should be because there is no debugging stub on my platform. My issue is how to get a debugging stub? Can I download it form any site? Thanks in advance, Vineesh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brett Worth" To: "Vineesh U S" Cc: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 12:17 PM Subject: Re: Installing Insight > On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Vineesh U S wrote: > > > I was trying to install insight-4.95.0 on my RH7.0 linux PC > > > > I'm getting this error...... > > Any idea? > > Looks like you dont have the XFree86 Development RPM installed. > > -- > Brett > > /) _ _ _/_/ / / / _ _// > /_)/ > Cray Australia. > brettw@cray.com +61 2 6295 4023 > > PGP: 1024R/27EB604F 22A9 A85A 22BD 496B 2443 > 35E5 46F7 0712 27EB 604F > > From tmc at goldweb.com.au Sun Sep 2 23:21:29 2001 From: tmc at goldweb.com.au (Tomasz Ciolek) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: Netgear MA301 and Orinoco Silver Querey In-Reply-To: <001f01c133aa$eb2964e0$9500a8c0@tricky> References: <000801c132bc$6a523f20$9500a8c0@tricky> <20010902100940.B59668@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010902170606.G25249@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> <001f01c133aa$eb2964e0$9500a8c0@tricky> Message-ID: <20010902232129.H25249@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> Check if the schipset on your PCMCIA->PCI adapter is listes as supported under linux/pcmcia-cs Latest versions might have the support you need... If all else fails look for ISA -> PCMCIA stuff, Its mostly supported and solid. Regards Tomasz Ciolek On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 10:29:31PM +1000, Richard Howlett wrote: > > > Have just tried to get a Netgear MA301 PCI -> PCMCIA adater to work with > > > an Orinoco Silver card. > > Is the controller itself detected and it runs correctly under your kernel? > was under the impression that a LOT oc contollers in the PCI->PCMCIA format > that are found as PCI plugin boards as opposed to laptops have trouble under > linux, for various reasons. > > I am attempting to install the card into a windows 98 box before attempting > linux. > > When the card is installed, after powerup the card is detected as a PCI > network adapter. Following the usual procedure > of pointing to where the drivers are everything does what you would expect, > requires the obligitory restart with no errors > reported. On examination of device manager not operational .. error 10. > > Also if the utility for the ma310 is installed it runs at startup but does > nothing (but remains in task manager) > > This happens either with or without the oirinoco card installed in the slot. > > Does the orinoco card work fine in a laptop? > It does work fine. Have also tried a friends Cabletron Roamabout (I think > they are orinoco clones) > > Thanks for repying, I'm trying to assertain if the device is faulty which > I'm starting to consider. > > Richard > > > Regards > Tomasz Ciolek > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tomasz Ciolek > To: Greg Lehey > Cc: Richard Howlett ; > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 5:06 PM > Subject: Re: Netgear MA301 and Orinoco Silver Querey > -- Tomasz M. Ciolek * * Everything falls under the law of change; * Like a dream, a phantom, a bubble, a shadow, * like dew of flash of lightning. * You should contemplate like this. ******************************************************************************* GPG Key ID: 0x7A18E49D * Available on www.pgp.net ******************************************************************************* -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010902/1e44f562/attachment.bin From resolve at repose.cx Sun Sep 2 23:33:28 2001 From: resolve at repose.cx (Damien Elmes) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: Netgear MA301 and Orinoco Silver Querey In-Reply-To: <20010902232129.H25249@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> References: <000801c132bc$6a523f20$9500a8c0@tricky> <20010902100940.B59668@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010902170606.G25249@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> <001f01c133aa$eb2964e0$9500a8c0@tricky> <20010902232129.H25249@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> Message-ID: <86d759vhsn.fsf@reflex.repose.cx> Tomasz Ciolek writes: > Check if the schipset on your PCMCIA->PCI adapter is listes as > supported under linux/pcmcia-cs > > Latest versions might have the support you need... If all else > fails look for ISA -> PCMCIA stuff, Its mostly supported and solid. > on a slighly related note, i bought a netgear FA411 (10/100, 16bit) from cougar the other day which is apparently supported in linux. i can't get it to work though. connected to a 10baseT hub, it drops about 90% of packets, and to my 10/100 switch, it won't work at all. i think it's a media problem, as no matter what irq it's on, the same thing occurs. i've tried the provided drivers (open source, just looks like an old version of pcnet_cs), although they die with a problem about modversion, and i'm not up with kernel dev enough to fix it. switich from 2.4 -> 2.2 kernels, around different pcmcia-cs version (28 and the latest beta), etc all seem to have no effect. a xircom card being kindly lent to me functions properly on this thinkpad 560. i don't know where to check next. has anyone had experience with these cards? cheers. -- Damien Elmes resolve@repose.cx From felixk at webone.com.au Sun Sep 2 08:55:57 2001 From: felixk at webone.com.au (Felix Karpfen) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: NV binary drivers (still is Help PLZ) In-Reply-To: <8666b3boxf.fsf@reflex.repose.cx>; from resolve@repose.cx on Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 12:55:08PM +1000 References: <20010831095025.A3486@smtp.webone.com.au> <8666b3boxf.fsf@reflex.repose.cx> Message-ID: <20010902085557.A12263@smtp.webone.com.au> Damien Elmes wrote: > Felix Karpfen writes: > > This looks like a good point at which to break into the thread - > > although my problem is with sound and not with video. > those are the alsa "meta-modules" which you can either > b) turn off, ie in /etc/modules.conf (/etc/modutils/alsa in debian) > > alias sound-slot-0 off > Due to my perennial Newbie status, I have the fear that I might end up in deeper trouble if I attempted to follow this advice. The current configuration of my /etc/modules.conf is attached. While I do not have a clue about what is going on there, `es1371' has been correctly identified by `sndconfig' and works. Felix -- Felix Karpfen felixk@webone.com.au Public Key 72FDF9DF (DH/DSA) Keyserver http://blackhole.pca.dfa.de -------------- next part -------------- alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc alias usb-controller usb-uhci alias /dev/sound es1371 alias char-major-81 bttv alias sound-slot-0 es1371 post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || : pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 2>&1 || : From brettw at cray.com.au Mon Sep 3 07:54:32 2001 From: brettw at cray.com.au (Brett Worth) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:18 2003 Subject: Installing Insight In-Reply-To: <021301c13398$48057f90$0501a8c0@india.mobiapps.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 2 Sep 2001, Vineesh U S wrote: > I'm trying to debug using the TCP/ip to > communicate with my target. but it doesn't establish a connection with the > target. Now I really dont know what you're talking about. Is the target a process running on the local machine or are you trying to connect to something on a remote machine? You can use netstat -a to see if there's a process listening on a given port on the local machine. Otherwise I'd try using tcpdump to see what's going on. > My issue is how to get a debugging stub? Can I download it form > any site? ? > Vineesh Brett /) _ _ _/_/ / / / _ _// /_)/ References: <20010901231346.D25249@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> Message-ID: <20010903085329.C18601@shiva.marian> On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 11:13:46PM +1000, Tomasz Ciolek wrote: > Hi all PPC linux users. > > Another question if I may. What is necessary to make a Ti powerbook sleep nicely in X? I have gottent it to sleep (I have 2.4.9-benh0 kernel) with the help form people at CLUG. However, despite my bets efforts, the X just returns in a blan screen. How does one recover that to the pre-sleep state? please use an email client that wraps the lines so it may be read with some ease... annyway, on my pismo I have the latest debian X release (from unstable) 4.1.0-2 or something and a very recent benh kernel (2.4.9-ben0 rsynced on thursday) X comes up fine, well it comes up when I opsn the lid and then goes blank, however that is like blank screen after inactivity so it works fine when I hit a key all ocmes up nice and works fine, I used to have some issues in X before 4.1.0-2 and always switched to console before going to sleep, but all is better now. Oh and make sure you have all the stuff in the pwrctl script in .etc.power commented out and are using the latest pmud as it all works with out the crud in the script (it is left over in the script from before sleep worked) > Also thanks to Paul for the information about penguinppc.org. Does anyone know of an laterante site for benh, or perhaps an alterante email for the man? well he may have some other place he will put them until it is online again, email him and ask, his email address (kernelcrashing.org) is in all the email he sends to lists (powerpc-devel, debian-powerpc, etc) See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From sam at topic.com.au Mon Sep 3 12:52:36 2001 From: sam at topic.com.au (Sam Couter) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: Libc6 malloc bites? In-Reply-To: References: <6u4rqnaggp.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20010903125236.B3761@topic.com.au> jeremy@itassist.net.au wrote: > > OK, cool. Can you tell me how I could check to see if malloc is being > passed a bad pointer? Try using NJAMD or ElectricFence or dmalloc or another one of the million and one malloc debugging libraries available. They can tell you if malloc() or free() are being passed dodgy pointers, as well as other useful information. -- Sam Couter | Internet Engineer | http://www.topic.com.au/ sam@topic.com.au | tSA Consulting | OpenPGP key ID: DE89C75C, available on key servers OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010903/146895d6/attachment.bin From steve at namsys.com.au Mon Sep 3 14:09:06 2001 From: steve at namsys.com.au (Stephen Hodgman) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: Linux based Net Connect appliance Message-ID: <3B938F02.645.F325FD@localhost> G'day all, I remember seeing an ad about a linux based net connection box. i.e. it dials the net using an integrated or standalone modem and provides gateway functions. I have a requirement for such a unit with integrated printer port. I am trying to see if it is cheaper to get an old pc and configure linux or to buy a purpose built box. Anyone have any pointers to this unit please? Thanks, --- Stephen Hodgman steve@namsys.com.au Namadgi Systems Ph. +61 2 6285 3460 Canberra Fax +61 2 6285 3459 Australia From chris_brittain at yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 14:52:51 2001 From: chris_brittain at yahoo.com (Chris Brittain) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: Linux based Net Connect appliance In-Reply-To: <3B938F02.645.F325FD@localhost> Message-ID: <20010903045251.17025.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Steve, --- Stephen Hodgman wrote: > G'day all, > I remember seeing an ad about a linux based net connection > box. i.e. it > dials the net using an integrated or standalone modem and > provides > gateway functions. I have a requirement for such a unit with > integrated > printer port. I am trying to see if it is cheaper to get an > old pc and > configure linux or to buy a purpose built box. > > Anyone have any pointers to this unit please? Not sure if this is the box you've seen, but it sounds similar: http://www.celestix.com/product_aries_specifications.php __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From Vineesh.US at MobiApps.com Sun Sep 2 21:29:32 2001 From: Vineesh.US at MobiApps.com (Vineesh U S) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: Error in using GDB Message-ID: <028a01c133a2$8b3947b0$0501a8c0@india.mobiapps.com> Hi All, I have installed Insight 5.0 on my RH7.0 PC. The configuration was as follows ********************************************** host=i686-pc-linux target=arm-linux (? Am I correct with this option) ********************************************** My target is running on StrongARM (SA-1110) And I'm able to load Insight on my PC. But when I try to connect to my target using TCP/IP Configuration : ********************************************** Target: Remote/TCP Hostname : 192.168.1.154 Port : 1058 ********************************************** It tells "Trying to communicate with target..... " and then the error ********************************************** "192.168.1.154:1058: Bad file descriptor" GDB cannot connect to the target board using 192.168.1.154:1058. Verify that the board is securely connected and if necessary modify the port setting with the debugge prefernces ********************************************** What could be wrong? Hve I missed something Any help on this appreciated Thanks in advance Vineesh PS: I have tested my targets TCP/IP connection and itz working fine. I'm able to ping, FTP, and telnet. Vineesh U.S 12?46'14'' 77?30'02'' Tel:+91-80-552 7411/511 - 124(extn) Fax:+91-80-552 7404 Programmer by Chance, Linuxer by Choice -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From achana at netspace.net.au Mon Sep 3 17:08:11 2001 From: achana at netspace.net.au (Arthur Chan) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: Samba problem ... Message-ID: <3B932C5B.D6F541C9@netspace.net.au> Hi all! I am configuring a second samba server using RedHat7.1 (the other is working find using Mandrake8.0) W98 sees it in Network Neighbourhood, but complains when we try to access it... /sbin/ifconfig -a shows eth0 okay. added default route & gateway okay. W98 can ping FS1 and vice versa. Samba.conf similar to another working file server. testparm okay. /sbin/service smb start okay. W98 client sees FS1 in Network Neighbourhood, but on clicking the FS1 icon, W98 reports the following error in W98 client machine: \\FS1 not accessible. The computer or sharename could not be found. Make sure you typed it correctly and try again. Meanwhile, back on FS1 ... smbstatus Samba version 2.0.7 Service uid gid pid machine ===================== No locked files Share mode memory usage(Bytes) 1048464(99%) free + 56(0%)used + 56(0%) overhead = 1048576(100%) total On W98 side nbtstats -a that the client W98 machine is status <00> registered. ipconfig -all shows Node Type Broadcast, which is what I do not want because I am aiming for hybrid if possible. On the 1st samba server, smbclient -U% -L localhost : Server Comment ------ ------- Laptop01 Laptop01 PS1 Samba Server 2.0.7 FS1 Samba Server Workgroup Master --------- ------ MYGRP PS1 On the 2nd samba server, smbclient -U% -L localhost : Server Comment ------ ------- FS1 Samba Server Workgroup Master --------- ------ MYGRP Obviously the 2nd (RedHat installation) is not seeing Leptop01 and PS1 even though it can ping the others. /var/log/samba/smb.log shows nothing unusual : [2001/28/09 20:27:50, 1] smbd/files.c:file_init(215) file_init:information only:requested 10000 open files, 1014 are available. From netkidoo at yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 17:19:40 2001 From: netkidoo at yahoo.com (NetKidoo) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: ioctl calls Message-ID: <048601c13448$cdeb3cc0$0501a8c0@india.mobiapps.com> Hi all, Any Doc or Links where I can get a good understanding of *ioctl* calls? Thanks in advance NetKidoo -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From glen20 at tpg.com.au Mon Sep 3 17:19:14 2001 From: glen20 at tpg.com.au (Glen Cunningham) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: Linux based Net Connect appliance In-Reply-To: <3B938F02.645.F325FD@localhost> Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20010903170934.00bf67d0@cof-mail.tpg.com.au> At 02:09 PM Monday 3/9/01, Stephen Hodgman wrote: >G'day all, >I remember seeing an ad about a linux based net connection box. i.e. it >dials the net using an integrated or standalone modem and provides >gateway functions. I have a requirement for such a unit with integrated >printer port. I am trying to see if it is cheaper to get an old pc and >configure linux or to buy a purpose built box. > >Anyone have any pointers to this unit please? >Thanks, Stephen, Cheapest is high-end 486 (or low-end pentium) as a "headless" box. Install any of the many Opensource firewalls. My current preference is SmoothWall - 30M .iso download, easy to install, easy to configure - only one con, don't bother with their mailing-lists if you use .au in your email address :^( HTH Glen From netkidoo at yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 17:30:39 2001 From: netkidoo at yahoo.com (NetKidoo) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: Installing Insight Message-ID: <04ba01c1344a$571a9a30$0501a8c0@india.mobiapps.com> Hi All, I have installed Insight 5.0 on my RH7.0 PC. The configuration was as follows ********************************************** host=i686-pc-linux target=arm-linux (? Am I correct with this option) ********************************************** My target is running on StrongARM (SA-1110) And I'm able to load Insight on my PC. But when I try to connect to my target using TCP/IP Configuration : ********************************************** Target: Remote/TCP Hostname : 192.168.1.154 Port : 1058 ********************************************** It tells "Trying to communicate with target..... " and then the error ********************************************** "192.168.1.154:1058: Bad file descriptor" GDB cannot connect to the target board using 192.168.1.154:1058. Verify that the board is securely connected and if necessary modify the port setting with the debugge prefernces ********************************************** What could be wrong? Hve I missed something Any help on this appreciated Thanks in advance NetKidoo PS: I have tested my targets TCP/IP connection and itz working fine. I'm able to ping, FTP, and telnet. From antony at claire.co.jp Mon Sep 3 17:35:08 2001 From: antony at claire.co.jp (Antony Stace) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: Installing Insight References: <04ba01c1344a$571a9a30$0501a8c0@india.mobiapps.com> Message-ID: <001301c1344a$f59f3300$61511dac@clairez0l9gg86> Are you sure that this port is open on the machine. As someone else suggested use netstat, as root on the 192.168.1.154 machine netstat -a | grep 1058 netstat -a | grep is there something listening on this port? Post back here if you are not sure on the output. Again, as someone else suggested, what did the result of tcpdump say? You might want to try telneting to that port, ie telnet 192.168.1.154 1058 Does this return something to the command line session you are in? ----- Original Message ----- From: "NetKidoo" To: Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 4:30 PM Subject: Installing Insight > Hi All, > I have installed Insight 5.0 on my RH7.0 PC. The configuration was as > follows > > ********************************************** > host=i686-pc-linux > target=arm-linux (? Am I correct with this option) > ********************************************** > > My target is running on StrongARM (SA-1110) > > And I'm able to load Insight on my PC. But when I try to connect to my > target using TCP/IP Configuration : > > ********************************************** > Target: Remote/TCP > Hostname : 192.168.1.154 > Port : 1058 > ********************************************** > It tells "Trying to communicate with target..... " and then the error > > ********************************************** > "192.168.1.154:1058: Bad file descriptor" > GDB cannot connect to the target board using 192.168.1.154:1058. > Verify that the board is securely connected and if necessary modify the port > setting with the debugge prefernces > ********************************************** > > What could be wrong? Hve I missed something > Any help on this appreciated > > Thanks in advance > NetKidoo > > PS: I have tested my targets TCP/IP connection and itz working fine. I'm > able to ping, FTP, and telnet. > > From c.gough at greycanberra.com.au Mon Sep 3 18:07:44 2001 From: c.gough at greycanberra.com.au (Chris Gough) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: Linux based Net Connect appliance In-Reply-To: <3B938F02.645.F325FD@localhost> Message-ID: <001401c1344f$836416c0$af09a8c0@CHRIS> I have been lurking for a while, but this is my first post - hello everybody. >G'day all, >I remember seeing an ad about a linux based net connection box. i.e. it >dials the net using an integrated or standalone modem and provides >gateway functions. I have a requirement for such a unit with integrated >printer port. I am trying to see if it is cheaper to get an old pc and >configure linux or to buy a purpose built box. Stephen, If you want to know how easy setting up a Linux gateway can be, you should check out freesco (www.freesco.org). It's at the simple end of the Linux spectrum. I use a p75 with no hard disk, fan (except in power supply), or monitor. The whole system runs from a RAM disk (32Mb in my case, although i believe 8mb is the minimum) and boots from a floppy. Once all the machines on the local network have their DHCP leases, the floppy can even be write protected (with this setup my gateway has recovered from a few power disruptions without any intervention; the network returned with the electricity). "Installation" involved answering a few questions on the command line ...and it has been working silently ever since. I could be wrong, but i seem to recall seeing printer support (and a few other things that i left alone, such as SMB and HTTP proxy cache for those people who want a hard disk in their gateway) that on the setup / admin interface. Chris Gough (signature pending) From tmc at goldweb.com.au Mon Sep 3 17:58:06 2001 From: tmc at goldweb.com.au (Tomasz Ciolek) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: A Powerbook question In-Reply-To: <20010903145536.A19618@shiva.marian> References: <20010901231346.D25249@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> <20010903085329.C18601@shiva.marian> <20010903093512.A377@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> <20010903145536.A19618@shiva.marian> Message-ID: <20010903175806.B377@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> Steve, Thanks for the tips. I did do all the things you metion previously... Also have the X config just fine, fbdev n'all. X recovers if I do Ctr-Alt-F3 and Ctr-Alt-F7 to dopt into concole mode and back to X. Otherwise the screen just stays blank. Wierd. Just wierd. Perhaps is the initial bootup fbdev stuff thats responsible? Im kind of wandering what I have done wrong or mis/un cofigured to have this problem... any ideas anyone else? regards Tomasz Ciolek On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 02:55:36PM +1000, Steven Hanley wrote: > I just remembered something, the wake up from sleep stuff does not work well > according to the gurus unless you use the fbdev thing with the ati driver in > X, basically you need the X Config file to look like this. > > Section "Device" > Identifier "ATI Rage 128" > Driver "ati" > BusID "PCI:0:16:0" > Option "UseFBDev" > Option "PanelWidth" "1024" > Option "PanelHeight" "768" > EndSection > > in the device section. > > This is why you need the recent kernel and recent X, the slightly older > kernels needed a patch applied by hand so the colours are not messed up with > the usefbdev stuff. > > See You > Steve > > -- > sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh > Look Up In The Sky > Is it a bird? No > Is it a plane No > Is it a small blue banana? > Yes -- Tomasz M. 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010903/a195682a/attachment.bin From sjh at wibble.net Mon Sep 3 18:26:47 2001 From: sjh at wibble.net (Steven Hanley) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: A Powerbook question In-Reply-To: <20010903175806.B377@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> References: <20010901231346.D25249@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> <20010903085329.C18601@shiva.marian> <20010903093512.A377@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> <20010903145536.A19618@shiva.marian> <20010903175806.B377@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> Message-ID: <20010903182647.A19926@shiva.marian> On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 05:58:06PM +1000, Tomasz Ciolek wrote: > Also have the X config just fine, fbdev n'all. X recovers if I do Ctr-Alt-F3 and Ctr-Alt-F7 to dopt into concole mode and back to X. Otherwise the screen just stays blank. well that is what I used to have to do if I went to sleep in X when I had 4.0.2 and the earlier 4.1.0 pre things, had to drop into console and back into X to have X work on wake up correctly, all works fine with the new debs though. Oh well I found that was fine really, but hey keep playing with config if it doesnt quite work, also the debian-powerpc list is a good place to post to (I have all along been assuming you are running debian of course) See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From tmc at goldweb.com.au Mon Sep 3 18:54:51 2001 From: tmc at goldweb.com.au (Tomasz Ciolek) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: A Powerbook question In-Reply-To: <20010903182647.A19926@shiva.marian> References: <20010901231346.D25249@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> <20010903085329.C18601@shiva.marian> <20010903093512.A377@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> <20010903145536.A19618@shiva.marian> <20010903175806.B377@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> <20010903182647.A19926@shiva.marian> Message-ID: <20010903185451.D377@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> Correct assumption. why run anything else? On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 06:26:47PM +1000, Steven Hanley wrote: > On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 05:58:06PM +1000, Tomasz Ciolek wrote: > > Also have the X config just fine, fbdev n'all. X recovers if I do Ctr-Alt-F3 and Ctr-Alt-F7 to dopt into concole mode and back to X. Otherwise the screen just stays blank. > > well that is what I used to have to do if I went to sleep in X when I had > 4.0.2 and the earlier 4.1.0 pre things, had to drop into console and back into > X to have X work on wake up correctly, all works fine with the new debs > though. > > Oh well I found that was fine really, but hey keep playing with config if it > doesnt quite work, also the debian-powerpc list is a good place to post to (I > have all along been assuming you are running debian of course) > > See You > Steve > > -- > sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh > Look Up In The Sky > Is it a bird? No > Is it a plane No > Is it a small blue banana? > Yes -- Tomasz M. Ciolek * * Everything falls under the law of change; * Like a dream, a phantom, a bubble, a shadow, * like dew of flash of lightning. * You should contemplate like this. ******************************************************************************* GPG Key ID: 0x7A18E49D * Available on www.pgp.net ******************************************************************************* From anto at my.hups.net Mon Sep 3 23:30:12 2001 From: anto at my.hups.net (anto@my.hups.net) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: is there a supported 16 bit PCMCIA USB card? Message-ID: <20010903233012.A20135@my.hups.net> Howdy, I know I might be asking for a bit too much, but does anyone know of a non cardbus (ie 16bit) PCMCIA USB card, and for a bonus it needs to be supported by linux (at least to some extent) Thanks for your help Antony. From richard_c at tpg.com.au Tue Sep 4 04:19:48 2001 From: richard_c at tpg.com.au (Richard Cottrill) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: NIS + automount fiddling Message-ID: Hello everybody, I've got a bit of an issue with NIS and automounting. Today I actually sat back and figured out roughly how to get NIS working. I can now use the central user/password store in my (office) network to authenticate users. I'm quite happy with that. I'm still not too sure if it's a NIS or NIS+ system but it's running anyway. What I'd like to do now is get to my files. When I login I get thrown to $HOME=/ This makes it a bit hard to see my files. The machine I'm trying to set up is crius, a RH6.2 machine. The NIS(+) map/database is good (works for our Solaris 6/7/8 and HP 11 boxes) and now I'm trying to extend the system to our Linux boxes. I didn't set up the others and I'm a total newbie in the NIS/automount field. I suspect that the NIS bit is working ok and that the various information is being found and accessed just fine. The problem for me is integrating the NIS(+) information with autofs/automount. I'm hoping to have a directory structure that looks like: /home <--- a real directory /richard <--- normal, local account, normal directory /david <--- as above /jeremy <--- some NIS user with automatically mounted NFS $HOME /somebody-else <--- another NIS user My questions to the wise among us: * How do I figure out if I'm using NIS or NIS+ (I've tried both 'yp' and 'nisplus' in the auto.master file to no avail - yes I reload between fiddles)? * what strange combination of yp* commands can I use to see what's being returned from the NIS server to autofs (assuming autofs is making the query in the first place)? * Would having more than one person logged in at a time result in a 'mount tree' (more than one file system to be mounted under a specific automount point - from autofs(5)) described as unsupported in the autofs(5) page? * Is this set up possible for Linux, and if so, how? * My next victim for this treatment is a Red Hat 7.1 box; will there be any changes for the procedure there? Thanks guys, Richard --- Various factoids: * crius is using the standard/static $HOME dirs for local accounts at /home/ * pikachu is a Solaris 7 machine and everything is running fine; my NIS login works OK on there. * the NIS server is on a different machine again, on a different subnet to both (pikachu + crius) computers. * The user I'm logging in with doesn't exist as a user on crius; only in the NIS system. * I can normally log in to as many different machines as many times as I like without hitting any kind of limit. The versions I'm playing with: [root@crius /root]# automount --version Linux automount version 3.1.4 [root@crius /root]# ypbind --version ypbind (ypbind-mt) 1.7 crius' (broken?) /etc/auto.master file # $Id: auto.master,v 1.2 1997/10/06 21:52:03 hpa Exp $ # Sample auto.master file # Format of this file: # mountpoint map options # For details of the format look at autofs(8). #/misc /etc/auto.misc --timeout 60 /home yp:auto_home -nobrowse pikachu's (working - Solaris) /etc/auto_master file: # Master map for automounter # +auto_master /net -hosts -nosuid,nobrowse /home auto_home -nobrowse /xfn -xfn The output when I try to log in to crius: @pikachu# telnet 10.100.2.4 Trying 10.100.2.4... Connected to 10.100.2.4. Escape character is '^]'. Red Hat Linux release 6.2 (Zoot) Kernel 2.2.19-6.2.7 on an i686 login: Password: Last login: Mon Sep 3 17:49:44 from 10.100.2.90 This is crius... Please enjoy your stay. <--- MOTD Or don't. It's not as if I care. No directory /home/! Logging in with home = "/". bash$ From brettw at cray.com.au Tue Sep 4 07:58:43 2001 From: brettw at cray.com.au (Brett Worth) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: NIS + automount fiddling In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Sep 2001, Richard Cottrill wrote: > I've got a bit of an issue with NIS and automounting. ... FWIW I've installed a 7.1 RedHat system in a NIS environment with autohome and it worked immediately without any changes beyond the normal install. > Richard -- Brett From pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au Tue Sep 4 10:38:30 2001 From: pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au (Peter Barker) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: NIS + automount fiddling In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Sep 2001, Richard Cottrill wrote: > I've got a bit of an issue with NIS and automounting. Today I actually sat > back and figured out roughly how to get NIS working. I can now use the > central user/password store in my (office) network to authenticate users. > I'm quite happy with that. I'm still not too sure if it's a NIS or NIS+ > system but it's running anyway. A nicely running system like this is very nice. I've been doing it for a while. > * How do I figure out if I'm using NIS or NIS+ (I've tried both 'yp' and > 'nisplus' in the auto.master file to no avail - yes I reload between > fiddles)? Hmmmm.... you could edit /etc/nsswitch and comment out one or the other. If it breaks, you know which one it was :-) > * what strange combination of yp* commands can I use to see what's being > returned from the NIS server to autofs (assuming autofs is making the query > in the first place)? I believe it simply says "OK, the person's home directory is . Let's cd them into it.". autofs pops up and says "hey, I'm responsible for that", and mounts it. > * Would having more than one person logged in at a time result in a 'mount > tree' (more than one file system to be mounted under a specific automount > point - from autofs(5)) described as unsupported in the autofs(5) page? You use a wilcard rule. Yes, they are separate mounts. > * Is this set up possible for Linux, and if so, how? Surely is. My config is: In auto.master: /nethome /etc/auto.nethome --timeout 60 In auto.nethome: * -rw,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,soft,intr,user,exec moriarty.fith.priv:/nethome/& See the ampersand on the end? That gets replaced with whatever the "*" matched. > * My next victim for this treatment is a Red Hat 7.1 box; will there be any > changes for the procedure there? No. > Richard Yours, -- Peter Barker | N _--_|\ /---- Barham, Vic Programmer,Sysadmin,Geek | W + E / /\ pbarker@barker.dropbear.id.au | S \_,--?_*<-- Canberra You need a bigger hammer. | v [35S, 149E] "When used legally and in its intended fashion, the Acrobat eBook Reader secures eBooks purchased by locking the eBook to the hardware from which it was purchased." -- Adobe press release From pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au Tue Sep 4 10:44:23 2001 From: pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au (Peter Barker) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: Recursive ("nohide") nfs exporting Message-ID: All, Does anyone know the what the state of the knfsd has been like over the last few kernel revisions? In particular, there is a "nohide" option which it appears to be ignoring, at least in the kernel on my server, 2.4.5-pre1. Does anyone have any ideas? My current exports line reads: /mnt/raid/debian 10.17.1.5/255.255.255.255(ro,nohide) (apparently the option is broken for anything other than a host entry) FWIW, I'm trying to export via nfs a directory containing three other directories, each of which has a debian CD ISO image mounted on it via loopback. Ta, -- Peter Barker | N _--_|\ /---- Barham, Vic Programmer,Sysadmin,Geek | W + E / /\ pbarker@barker.dropbear.id.au | S \_,--?_*<-- Canberra You need a bigger hammer. | v [35S, 149E] "When used legally and in its intended fashion, the Acrobat eBook Reader secures eBooks purchased by locking the eBook to the hardware from which it was purchased." -- Adobe press release From Robert.Edwards at anu.edu.au Tue Sep 4 11:30:06 2001 From: Robert.Edwards at anu.edu.au (Bob Edwards) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: NIS + automount fiddling References: Message-ID: <3B942E9E.CDF20E71@anu.edu.au> Peter Barker wrote: > > * How do I figure out if I'm using NIS or NIS+ (I've tried both 'yp' and > > 'nisplus' in the auto.master file to no avail - yes I reload between > > fiddles)? > > Hmmmm.... you could edit /etc/nsswitch and comment out one or the > other. If it breaks, you know which one it was :-) > Another way to tell: is your NIS server a Linux machine? If so, it can only be NIS (yp) as there is no NIS+ server implementation for Linux (nor will there likely ever be one). NIS+ support for Linux is limited to allowing Linux clients to join an existing NIS+ network with Solaris NIS+ servers. > > * what strange combination of yp* commands can I use to see what's being > > returned from the NIS server to autofs (assuming autofs is making the query > > in the first place)? > > I believe it simply says "OK, the person's home directory is . Let's > cd them into it.". autofs pops up and says "hey, I'm responsible for > that", and mounts it. > "ypmatch auto_home" will tell you where each home directory is being mounted from (for NIS/YP). > > * Would having more than one person logged in at a time result in a 'mount > > tree' (more than one file system to be mounted under a specific automount > > point - from autofs(5)) described as unsupported in the autofs(5) page? > > You use a wilcard rule. Yes, they are separate mounts. > > > * Is this set up possible for Linux, and if so, how? > > Surely is. > > My config is: > > In auto.master: > /nethome /etc/auto.nethome --timeout 60 > > In auto.nethome: > * -rw,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,soft,intr,user,exec > moriarty.fith.priv:/nethome/& > > See the ampersand on the end? That gets replaced with whatever the > "*" matched. > > > * My next victim for this treatment is a Red Hat 7.1 box; will there be any > > changes for the procedure there? > > No. > > > Richard > > Yours, > -- > Peter Barker | N _--_|\ /---- Barham, Vic > Programmer,Sysadmin,Geek | W + E / /\ > pbarker@barker.dropbear.id.au | S \_,--?_*<-- Canberra > You need a bigger hammer. | v [35S, 149E] > "When used legally and in its intended fashion, the Acrobat eBook Reader > secures eBooks purchased by locking the eBook to the hardware from which > it was purchased." -- Adobe press release Cheers, Bob Edwards. From mickhowe at bigpond.com Tue Sep 4 19:55:25 2001 From: mickhowe at bigpond.com (Mick Howe) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: sharing a dial-up connection with a win95 system Message-ID: <01090419552502.15481@cave> I wish to setup my RedHat 7.1 linux to provide access to the web for a Win95 system. any tips or reference to a readable howto? /\/\ick From jeremy at itassist.net.au Tue Sep 4 20:15:02 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: sharing a dial-up connection with a win95 system In-Reply-To: <01090419552502.15481@cave> Message-ID: On 4 Sep, Mick Howe wrote: > I wish to setup my RedHat 7.1 linux to provide access to the web for a Win95 > system. any tips or reference to a readable howto? > > /\/\ick > I got started with the Net3-HOWTO and the IPchains HOWTO. It'll take a little while to work through - there's a lot there. -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... From gadicath at yahoo.com Tue Sep 4 20:29:18 2001 From: gadicath at yahoo.com (David) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: sharing a dial-up connection with a win95 system In-Reply-To: <01090419552502.15481@cave> References: <01090419552502.15481@cave> Message-ID: <20010904202918.A6830@yahoo.com> On Tue, 04 Sep 2001, Mick Howe wrote: > I wish to setup my RedHat 7.1 linux to provide access to the web for a Win95 > system. any tips or reference to a readable howto? Depending on what kernel you have and how it's setup, have a look at either iptables or ipchains. In particular MASQ in ipchains, and MASQUERADE in iptables. www.linuxguru.com/docs/howto/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO The above link would probably be a good place to look as well.. -- Don't tell me I'm burning the candle at both ends -- tell me where to get more wax!! - David Clarke | David Clarke GPG Fingerprint : 869B 53DD 5E80 E1F0 93F6 9871 0508 0296 5957 F723 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010904/9cb4fc2e/attachment.bin From richard_c at tpg.com.au Tue Sep 4 23:40:10 2001 From: richard_c at tpg.com.au (Richard Cottrill) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: NIS + automount fiddling In-Reply-To: <3B942E9E.CDF20E71@anu.edu.au> Message-ID: Thanks peoples. After some animated cursing I've come to the conclusion that I can't do everything I'd like. I can't mix types of mount at one mount point; in fact it seems to be a mutually exclusive thing. Scary. Actually the scary bit was when automount grabbed /home and decided it hadn't yet mounted anything there, ergo, it was empty. I'm not the only person who uses this machine and the prospect of having wiped out everyone else's files made me more than a little concerned. Fortunately everything returned to normal when I stopped autofs/mount. Then I did what I should have before starting this Jihad on local files - I backed them up. So the conclusion that I've come to is that it's not possible to have: /home <--- a real directory /richard <--- normal, local account, normal directory /david <--- as above /jeremy <--- some NIS user with automatically mounted NFS $HOME /somebody-else <--- another NIS user Automount will let me have one type of mount or another (I believe). I did figure out why my home directories aren't being mounted though - the map name wasn't correct (should have had 'auto.home', instead of 'auto_home', as the map name; it resolves to ':/u01/home/&'). Through fiddling with the lookup types in /etc/auto.master and the niscat and ypcat Solaris tools I've figured out that it's an old-style NIS system. The solution I've come up with is to move all of the local $HOME directories to some other directory and fiddle all of the references (passwd, etc) I can find. I expect that the local logins aren't long for this world anyway. All that leaves is fixing up my trashed Apache install... Thanks for your help guys, Richard -----Original Message----- From: linux-admin@lists.samba.org [mailto:linux-admin@lists.samba.org]On Behalf Of Bob Edwards Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 2:30 AM To: Peter Barker Cc: Richard Cottrill; CLUG List Subject: Re: NIS + automount fiddling Peter Barker wrote: > > * How do I figure out if I'm using NIS or NIS+ (I've tried both 'yp' and > > 'nisplus' in the auto.master file to no avail - yes I reload between > > fiddles)? > > Hmmmm.... you could edit /etc/nsswitch and comment out one or the > other. If it breaks, you know which one it was :-) > Another way to tell: is your NIS server a Linux machine? If so, it can only be NIS (yp) as there is no NIS+ server implementation for Linux (nor will there likely ever be one). NIS+ support for Linux is limited to allowing Linux clients to join an existing NIS+ network with Solaris NIS+ servers. > > * what strange combination of yp* commands can I use to see what's being > > returned from the NIS server to autofs (assuming autofs is making the query > > in the first place)? > > I believe it simply says "OK, the person's home directory is . Let's > cd them into it.". autofs pops up and says "hey, I'm responsible for > that", and mounts it. > "ypmatch auto_home" will tell you where each home directory is being mounted from (for NIS/YP). > > * Would having more than one person logged in at a time result in a 'mount > > tree' (more than one file system to be mounted under a specific automount > > point - from autofs(5)) described as unsupported in the autofs(5) page? > > You use a wilcard rule. Yes, they are separate mounts. > > > * Is this set up possible for Linux, and if so, how? > > Surely is. > > My config is: > > In auto.master: > /nethome /etc/auto.nethome --timeout 60 > > In auto.nethome: > * -rw,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,soft,intr,user,exec > moriarty.fith.priv:/nethome/& > > See the ampersand on the end? That gets replaced with whatever the > "*" matched. > > > * My next victim for this treatment is a Red Hat 7.1 box; will there be any > > changes for the procedure there? > > No. > > > Richard > > Yours, > -- > Peter Barker | N _--_|\ /---- Barham, Vic > Programmer,Sysadmin,Geek | W + E / /\ > pbarker@barker.dropbear.id.au | S \_,--?_*<-- Canberra > You need a bigger hammer. | v [35S, 149E] > "When used legally and in its intended fashion, the Acrobat eBook Reader > secures eBooks purchased by locking the eBook to the hardware from which > it was purchased." -- Adobe press release Cheers, Bob Edwards. From richard_c at tpg.com.au Wed Sep 5 00:00:34 2001 From: richard_c at tpg.com.au (Richard Cottrill) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: Trashed Apache config Message-ID: I have an immense talent for busting stuff. Really. I've managed to wipe-out my httpd.conf file. I can't figure out how to extract a default one from the rpm either. All I want is the default and I'll be a happy bunny. I've been trying variations of: rpm2cpio apache-1.3.14-2.6.2.i386.rpm | cpio --extract --no-absolute-filenames --dot etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf without any joy. I've come to suspect that the file is dynamically generated (seems odd for a standard RPM, but it's a thought). Can someone either tell me what's wrong with this command or just send me a vanilla httpd.conf file that will suit. I promise to treasure it and backup regularly. Thanks again, Richard From kleptog at svana.org Wed Sep 5 00:17:47 2001 From: kleptog at svana.org (Martijn van Oosterhout) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: NIS + automount fiddling In-Reply-To: ; from richard_c@tpg.com.au on Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 02:40:10PM +0100 References: <3B942E9E.CDF20E71@anu.edu.au> Message-ID: <20010905001747.E4004@svana.org> On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 02:40:10PM +0100, Richard Cottrill wrote: > Actually the scary bit was when automount grabbed /home and decided it > hadn't yet mounted anything there, ergo, it was empty. I'm not the only > person who uses this machine and the prospect of having wiped out everyone > else's files made me more than a little concerned. Fortunately everything > returned to normal when I stopped autofs/mount. Then I did what I should > have before starting this Jihad on local files - I backed them up. Automounter is dangerous! I wanted to have /cdrom automounted as an experiment and only succeeded in losing all normal files and symlinks in my root directory. > So the conclusion that I've come to is that it's not possible to have: > /home <--- a real directory > /richard <--- normal, local account, normal directory > /david <--- as above > /jeremy <--- some NIS user with automatically mounted NFS $HOME > /somebody-else <--- another NIS user > > Automount will let me have one type of mount or another (I believe). It certainly seems that way. Actually quite annoying, since being able to have different type would be cool. Maybe we need a simpler automount that only works for a single directory. Ah well, at least you have a solution... -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From sjh at wibble.net Wed Sep 5 09:19:57 2001 From: sjh at wibble.net (Steven Hanley) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:19 2003 Subject: Trashed Apache config In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010905091955.A1187@shiva.marian> On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 03:00:34PM +0100, Richard Cottrill wrote: > I have an immense talent for busting stuff. Really. > > I've managed to wipe-out my httpd.conf file. I can't figure out how to > extract a default one from the rpm either. All I want is the default and > I'll be a happy bunny. > > I've been trying variations of: > rpm2cpio apache-1.3.14-2.6.2.i386.rpm | > cpio --extract --no-absolute-filenames --dot etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf > without any joy. I've come to suspect that the file is dynamically generated > (seems odd for a standard RPM, but it's a thought). > > Can someone either tell me what's wrong with this command or just send me a > vanilla httpd.conf file that will suit. I promise to treasure it and backup > regularly. I dont know about extracting one file, in dpkg you can do dpkg -x something.deb somedir which will extract the contents as if somdir were / I assume rpm can do something simmilar, let me look up the manpage... hm nothing stands out, you can probably extract the entire rpm with rpm2cpio and cpio it to some directory though, you dont need to extract only one file, when trying to extract only one file it probably fails becauuse the directory structure underneath the file is not in place. See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From mikal at stillhq.com Wed Sep 5 09:37:43 2001 From: mikal at stillhq.com (Michael Still) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:20 2003 Subject: Dial on deman ppp config question Message-ID: Hey all. I have a dial on demand ppp connection on a machine. It works fine. Even when there is no dialup connection, there is a ppp0 entry in ifconfig. How do I determine if I am currently dialled or not? [I have a script I would like to run to collect mail, but I only want it to run if there is already a connection. I don't want it dialling every 15 minutes] Thanks, Mikal -- Michael Still (mikal@stillhq.com) From pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au Wed Sep 5 09:44:14 2001 From: pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au (Peter Barker) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:20 2003 Subject: Trashed Apache config In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Richard Cottrill wrote: > I've been trying variations of: > rpm2cpio apache-1.3.14-2.6.2.i386.rpm | > cpio --extract --no-absolute-filenames --dot etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf I usually use "rpm2cpio | cpio --extract --make-directories" and then take any files required from the created hierarchy. > Richard Yours, -- Peter Barker | N _--_|\ /---- Barham, Vic Programmer,Sysadmin,Geek | W + E / /\ pbarker@barker.dropbear.id.au | S \_,--?_*<-- Canberra You need a bigger hammer. | v [35S, 149E] "When used legally and in its intended fashion, the Acrobat eBook Reader secures eBooks purchased by locking the eBook to the hardware from which it was purchased." -- Adobe press release From Robert.Edwards at anu.edu.au Wed Sep 5 09:42:10 2001 From: Robert.Edwards at anu.edu.au (Bob Edwards) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:20 2003 Subject: NIS + automount fiddling References: Message-ID: <3B9566D2.DFDFC7F5@anu.edu.au> Actually, automount is great stuff and does exactly what you expect: mounts directories automatically. This is what we do here at DCS, ANU: each machine with user files on local disk has them in (eg.) /data0. We then have an automount map that has entries like: bob tux:/data0/bob sjh saiph:/data0/sjh When I log onto "tux" (as bob), here is what shows up: /dev/hda1 3099260 1251680 1690148 43% / /dev/hdc3 16578216 11909708 4497352 73% /data0 /dev/hda3 774040 617300 117384 85% /tmp /dev/hda4 5581824 3629600 1668680 69% /usr/local /data0/bob 16578216 11909708 4497352 73% /home/bob As you can see, automount has remounted /data0/bob onto /home/bob. When I log onto "saiph", here is the result: /dev/hda1 4134900 1913764 2011088 49% / /dev/hda4 9938284 1679232 7754212 18% /data0 /dev/hda3 4134932 258864 3666020 7% /tmp linux:/usr/local 5581824 4511884 786396 86% /usr/local tux:/data0/bob 16578216 11909712 4497352 73% /home/bob As you can see, automount on "saiph" has mounted my home directory from "tux" as ... you guessed it! /home/bob. Cool. Note that in both cases, /home is simply a mount point. If you had anything on local disk in /home, it is still there, but inaccessible whilst automount (or anything else, for that matter) is using /home as a mount point. Ie. if you: mount /dev/cdrom /home all your files in /home will "disappear" until you unmount /dev/cdrom, at which point the underlying directory will magically reappear. (I don't know what would happen if you tried this whilst automount was managing the /home mount point, though!) Cheers, Bob Edwards. Richard Cottrill wrote: > > Thanks peoples. > > After some animated cursing I've come to the conclusion that I can't do > everything I'd like. I can't mix types of mount at one mount point; in fact > it seems to be a mutually exclusive thing. Scary. > > Actually the scary bit was when automount grabbed /home and decided it > hadn't yet mounted anything there, ergo, it was empty. I'm not the only > person who uses this machine and the prospect of having wiped out everyone > else's files made me more than a little concerned. Fortunately everything > returned to normal when I stopped autofs/mount. Then I did what I should > have before starting this Jihad on local files - I backed them up. > > So the conclusion that I've come to is that it's not possible to have: > /home <--- a real directory > /richard <--- normal, local account, normal directory > /david <--- as above > /jeremy <--- some NIS user with automatically mounted NFS $HOME > /somebody-else <--- another NIS user > > Automount will let me have one type of mount or another (I believe). > > I did figure out why my home directories aren't being mounted though - the > map name wasn't correct (should have had 'auto.home', instead of > 'auto_home', as the map name; it resolves to ':/u01/home/&'). > > Through fiddling with the lookup types in /etc/auto.master and the niscat > and ypcat Solaris tools I've figured out that it's an old-style NIS system. > > The solution I've come up with is to move all of the local $HOME directories > to some other directory and fiddle all of the references (passwd, etc) I can > find. I expect that the local logins aren't long for this world anyway. > > All that leaves is fixing up my trashed Apache install... > > Thanks for your help guys, > > Richard From Antti.Roppola at brs.gov.au Wed Sep 5 11:14:43 2001 From: Antti.Roppola at brs.gov.au (Antti.Roppola@brs.gov.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:20 2003 Subject: sharing a dial-up connection with a win95 system Message-ID: <595FE28AB1EBD111920F0060B06B3DD70730C126@ACTMAIL2> jeremy wrote: > On 4 Sep, Mick Howe wrote: > > I wish to setup my RedHat 7.1 linux to provide access to > the web for a Win95 > > system. any tips or reference to a readable howto? > little while to work through - there's a lot there. Conversely, the Windows net sharing is not that painless either. I was going to share using Windows until I built my firewall. In the end, it took less time to build a firewall than it took to get Windows net sharing working. The firewall (Debian running ipchains and IP masquerading) has required almost no attention since setup. :o) The only other suggestion I'd make is avoid running any services on the firewall box (httpd, mail etc.) unless you really have to (well, initially anyway). It greatly simplifies securing the box. Antti From jeremy at itassist.net.au Wed Sep 5 14:26:01 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:20 2003 Subject: sharing a dial-up connection with a win95 system In-Reply-To: <595FE28AB1EBD111920F0060B06B3DD70730C126@ACTMAIL2> Message-ID: On 5 Sep, Antti.Roppola@brs.gov.au wrote: > jeremy wrote: >> On 4 Sep, Mick Howe wrote: >> > I wish to setup my RedHat 7.1 linux to provide access to >> the web for a Win95 >> > system. any tips or reference to a readable howto? > >> little while to work through - there's a lot there. > > Conversely, the Windows net sharing is not that painless > either. I was going to share using Windows until I built > my firewall. In the end, it took less time to build a > firewall than it took to get Windows net sharing working. That's unuasual. Perhaps you have a special setup, but I always found windows networking to be fairly straightforwards. Install drivers for card, assign IP and DNS, reboot. Of course, so many things can go wrong *after* you do that, but that's another story. -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... From Antti.Roppola at brs.gov.au Wed Sep 5 15:41:29 2001 From: Antti.Roppola at brs.gov.au (Antti.Roppola@brs.gov.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:20 2003 Subject: sharing a dial-up connection with a win95 system Message-ID: <595FE28AB1EBD111920F0060B06B3DD70730C12D@ACTMAIL2> jeremy wrote: > > Conversely, the Windows net sharing is not that painless > > either. I was going to share using Windows until I built > > my firewall. In the end, it took less time to build a > > firewall than it took to get Windows net sharing working. > That's unuasual. Perhaps you have a special setup, but I always found > windows networking to be fairly straightforwards. Install drivers for > card, assign IP and DNS, reboot. Networking is painless. Getting the _Windows_ Internet sharing host to produce a config file that any other Windows machine could understand was more effort than setting up the real firewall box. Clients being mix of 95a, 95b, 98 and 98SE wouldn't have helped this. Antti From jeremy at itassist.net.au Wed Sep 5 16:11:20 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:20 2003 Subject: Libc6 malloc bites? In-Reply-To: <20010901172753.A25249@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> Message-ID: On 1 Sep, Tomasz Ciolek wrote: > Can you post the proggy or is it too complicated? Sure can. Apologies for style, it's a first draft. Incidentally, I haven't been able to reduce it to a nice small test case. I also haven't had time to pull out electric fence and try it out. Feed the program a large text file (like a book) and a word. The program will search through the text to find the word, where the letters are 'spaced out' by a number of letters. This involves some brutal regexp work which appears to crash a nearby string extension. Bonus points for identifying the book in the example. an example: perl hidden.pl "thing" book.txt ---This is the original text---------------------------------------- s face went white. It just wasnt all sunshine, he whispered, shaking his head. Not all sunshine, thats all Im saying. What does he mean? said Gurder, brightly. He d ---Secret message in text is in capitals--------------------- s f a c e w e n t w h i t e i t j u s T w a s n t a l l s u n s h i n e . H e w h i s p e r e d s h a k i n g h I s h e a d n o t a l l s u n s h i N e t h a t s a l l i m s a y i n G w h a t d o e s h e m e a n s a i d g u r d e r b r i g h t l y h e d -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... -------------- next part -------------- #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use warnings; #use diagnostics; my $letter_separation = 80; my $word = shift @ARGV; my $file = shift @ARGV; my $text; #Read in the contents of the file open FH, "<$file" or die "couldn't open $file for input"; { local $/; $text = ; } close FH; my $origtext = $text; my @words = split /[[:space:][:punct:]]/, $text; my @wordlist = grep {length $_ > 3} @words; {local $, = "!"; #print "\nCompiled this wordlist:", @wordlist,"\n"; } my %words; $words{$_}=1 foreach @wordlist; @wordlist = keys %words; $text =~ s/\n|\r/ /g; $text =~ s/[[:punct:][:space:]]//g; $text = lc($text); foreach my $sep ( 1..$letter_separation) { print "Searching for words with a letter separation of $sep\n"; my @letters = split //, $word; my @regexp = ("(.{0,20}", join(".{$sep}", @letters), ".{0,".($sep+20)."})"); my $regexp = join "", @regexp; #print $regexp, "\n\n"; while ( $text =~/$regexp/ig ) { my $block = highlight_block ( $1, $sep, $word ); foreach my $s ( 1..$sep) { my $i; my $charlength; foreach ( @wordlist ) { print "Word number: ", $i++, "\n"; $charlength += length($_); print "Total length sent: $charlength\n"; $block = highlight_block ( $block, $s, $_ ) ; } } print "---This is the original text----------------------------------------\n"; print find_orig($origtext, $block), "\n"; print "---Secret message in text is in capitals---------------------\n\n"; print format_block($block, $sep), "\n"; } } sub format_block { my ( $block, $sep) = @_; return $block if $sep < 10; my $regexp = "(.{".($sep+1)."})"; $block =~ s/$regexp/$1\n/ig; $block =~ s/(.)/$1 /g; return $block; } sub highlight_block { my ($block, $sep, $word)=@_; #print "Before $word, $sep\n"; my @let = split //, $word; my $rep = ''; my $i=1; foreach my $l (@let) {$l = "(".$l.")(.{$sep})"; $rep.='\u$'.$i++.'$'.$i++.'';}; my $regexp2 = join "", @let; #print "Now scanning substring with $regexp2 and replacement target $rep\n"; my $ev = '$block =~ '."s/$regexp2/$rep/i"; eval $ev; print $block, "\n\n"; #print "block after\n"; return $block; } sub find_orig { my ($orig, $block)=@_; my @search = split //, $block; my $search = join("","(", join( "[[:space:][:punct:]]*", @search), ")"); $orig =~ /$search/gi; return $1; From richard_c at tpg.com.au Thu Sep 6 00:19:26 2001 From: richard_c at tpg.com.au (Richard Cottrill) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:20 2003 Subject: Trashed Apache config In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks to all who replied. Apache is up and running smoothly again. The next task is to add the translator thingies for htdig so it can read Word and pdf files... No problems pending there though. Thanks for your help guys, Richard -----Original Message----- From: Peter Barker [mailto:pbarker@barker.dropbear.id.au] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:44 AM To: Richard Cottrill Cc: CLUG List Subject: Re: Trashed Apache config On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Richard Cottrill wrote: > I've been trying variations of: > rpm2cpio apache-1.3.14-2.6.2.i386.rpm | > cpio --extract --no-absolute-filenames --dot etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf I usually use "rpm2cpio | cpio --extract --make-directories" and then take any files required from the created hierarchy. > Richard Yours, -- Peter Barker | N _--_|\ /---- Barham, Vic Programmer,Sysadmin,Geek | W + E / /\ pbarker@barker.dropbear.id.au | S \_,--?_*<-- Canberra You need a bigger hammer. | v [35S, 149E] "When used legally and in its intended fashion, the Acrobat eBook Reader secures eBooks purchased by locking the eBook to the hardware from which it was purchased." -- Adobe press release From lannet at lannet.com.au Thu Sep 6 08:05:18 2001 From: lannet at lannet.com.au (Howard Lowndes) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:20 2003 Subject: Really spooky Message-ID: I have a set up at one site where 4 Linux boxes are connected through a manual switch box to a common head set. Box A is a workstation running init level 5 Box B is an internal server running init level 3 Box C is an external server running init level 3 Box D is a gateway running init level 3 Boxes A, B & D are connected on one ethernet network Boxes C & D are connected on a separate, DMZ, ethernet network When all 4 boxes are working then they all operate through the switch box OK, screen displays, keyboard, and meece (where relevant). In the past 48 hours box C has taken it upon itself to freeze occasionally, which in itself is a real PITA as the only thing I have done was to remove its HDD to another box to do some work and then put it back, but it seems as if something has taken a hit. What is strange is that when box C freezes I can still switch to all of the boxes, but when I switch to box C there is, not unreasonably, a blank screen. However if I do a Ctrl-Alt-Del in this position (box C) then it causes box D to reboot. I first thought it might be cross talk in the switch box, but that doesn't explain why it works OK when box C is working OK. My only other idea is that somehow the signal is migrating to box D over the DMZ network. (After thought - there is a cron job which ssh's between these two boxes regularly) Does anyone want to speculate on this one, it really is spooky. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com From Doug.Palmer at cmis.csiro.au Thu Sep 6 13:01:34 2001 From: Doug.Palmer at cmis.csiro.au (Doug.Palmer@cmis.csiro.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:20 2003 Subject: Dial on deman ppp config question Message-ID: <754324CDE8E4EE4498D8E0357D913685022D13@saab-bt.act.cmis.csiro.au> > [I have a script I would like to run to collect mail, but I > only want it > to run if there is already a connection. I don't want it > dialling every 15 > minutes] fetchmail, running in daemon mode, has an option that will allow it to not bring up a link if it's not up already. You might want to use that. From matthew at topic.com.au Thu Sep 6 12:39:53 2001 From: matthew at topic.com.au (Matthew Hawkins) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:21 2003 Subject: NIS + automount fiddling In-Reply-To: <3B9566D2.DFDFC7F5@anu.edu.au> References: <3B9566D2.DFDFC7F5@anu.edu.au> Message-ID: <20010906123952.B8377@topic.com.au> I love automount too. In fact, I like the Linux version (autofs, based on Solaris iirc) much better than I like the BSD amd. I do recall something about having shared mount points, but the trick with it is always going to be dealing with namespace clashes. What I think would be neat is a filesystem and supporting daemon, the filesystem permits multiple other filesystems to be mounted to the same point, the daemon applies rules from a config file to deal with what gets mounted where and how collisions are dealt with. A couple of things I can think of; you could have a priority system where clashing files from one system have a higher priority and are therefore the ones that get mapped. This would require some kind of metadata stored about the files and tools to deal with that so you could check where a particular file really lives for example. Another possibility is to mount each system into its own subdirectory, in the case of a home dir this would require some way of mapping application resource files and so forth so "vim ~/.zshrc" still makes sense. Does anyone know how systems like CODA deal with this sort of thing? -- Matt From matthew at topic.com.au Thu Sep 6 13:58:06 2001 From: matthew at topic.com.au (Matthew Hawkins) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:21 2003 Subject: Trashed Apache config In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010906135806.E8377@topic.com.au> On Wed, 05 Sep 2001, Richard Cottrill wrote: > The next task is to add the translator thingies for htdig so it can read > Word and pdf files... > > No problems pending there though. Well, there is. htdig has got to be the worst search engine on the face of the planet. It operates like so: * find documents relevent to search query * return as results every other document in the index A nice free one which actually works is aspseek. Since this is on work time, we (tSA) can help you with non-free solutions if you like :-) -- Matt From sam at topic.com.au Thu Sep 6 15:31:57 2001 From: sam at topic.com.au (Sam Couter) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:21 2003 Subject: Really spooky In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010906153157.B10835@topic.com.au> Howard Lowndes wrote: > What is strange is that when box C freezes I can still switch to all of > the boxes, but when I switch to box C there is, not unreasonably, a blank > screen. However if I do a Ctrl-Alt-Del in this position (box C) then it > causes box D to reboot. El cheapo switch box, which doesn't switch right when the keyboard controller on box C is frozen, or when box C doesn't output a video signal? > I first thought it might be cross talk in the switch box, but that doesn't > explain why it works OK when box C is working OK. My only other idea is > that somehow the signal is migrating to box D over the DMZ network. > (After thought - there is a cron job which ssh's between these two boxes > regularly) Keyboard scancodes don't migrate across networks. If box D is rebooting, then either you've configured init on box C to cause it to ssh to box D and reboot it (unlikely), or you've really sent the Ctrl-Alt-Del sequence to box D. Since your switch box is in charge of that, I'd point the finger squarely at the switch box. -- Sam Couter | Internet Engineer | http://www.topic.com.au/ sam@topic.com.au | tSA Consulting | OpenPGP key ID: DE89C75C, available on key servers OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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References: <20010903233012.A20135@my.hups.net> Message-ID: <3B9727C9.323AD2E7@bigpond.net.au> anto@my.hups.net wrote: > > Howdy, > > I know I might be asking for a bit too much, but does anyone know of a > non cardbus (ie 16bit) PCMCIA USB card, and for a bonus it needs to be > supported by linux (at least to some extent) Everyone seems to do OHCI cardbus. Does PCMCIA even have the throughput? Brad From pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au Thu Sep 6 20:29:07 2001 From: pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au (Peter Barker) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:21 2003 Subject: Libc6 malloc bites? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 jeremy@itassist.net.au wrote: > haven't been able to reduce it to a nice small test case. I also haven't > had time to pull out electric fence and try it out. I don't know what we upgraded, but some combination of perl5.6.0 and/or glibc-2.2 - and/or half a trillion other things causes problems for us. Come to think of it, there are two. I _think_, bug number one has something to do with a library being included from a library you've included (transitive includes) not compiling. It will certainly cause perl to give a compilation error - and will then cause perl to dump core! The second problem is a little more obscure. "Bizarre copy of hash in aassign" - some bug in CGI, I think. Both are bugs, both are annoying, but I can live with, and work around, them, so I don't get too annoyed. Well, I settle down after a while, anyway. That is, of course, different to your problem where it is dying with perfectly valid program and input. Yours, -- Peter Barker | N _--_|\ /---- Barham, Vic Programmer,Sysadmin,Geek | W + E / /\ pbarker@barker.dropbear.id.au | S \_,--?_*<-- Canberra You need a bigger hammer. | v [35S, 149E] "When used legally and in its intended fashion, the Acrobat eBook Reader secures eBooks purchased by locking the eBook to the hardware from which it was purchased." -- Adobe press release From terry.kearns at dha.gov.au Fri Sep 7 11:44:11 2001 From: terry.kearns at dha.gov.au (Kearns, Terry) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:22 2003 Subject: help! looking for a CVS person Message-ID: Our organisation has recently shifted focus onto doing more application development work and as a result we have needed to implement version control. I recommended and installed CVS because of it's seemingly good reputation on the Internet and from the reading I have found time to do on it. Unfortunately, none of us have experience with CVS or version control but we kinda need to be using it "yesterday" because of all the emergencies happening around here (partially due to people ignoring my requests to have version control because "there's no time for that. we need to fix these production issues first"). We would greatly appreciate it if someone with a few years commercial experience with CVS could come in and give us some advice on how to put it into practice. From what I understand, CVS does not solve your version control problems, it merely provides a mechanism to implement good practice. We just need maybe a day or so's worth of consultation to give us a leg up. If you feel that you could assist, please respond to me off-list. Thanks muchly. PS. We develop mainly on the windows platform so we are using cvsNT for our repository server and winCVS for client access (with the TCL command line capability built in). We have an Oracle DBA who is using Solaris so he will want to access the repository from that platform. We used cvsNT to take advantage of the NT authentication since it is intranet only usage (security isn't our biggest concern). Note that the tools or the platform is not so much an issue as is the CVS methodology. [TK] From terry.kearns at dha.gov.au Fri Sep 7 11:54:43 2001 From: terry.kearns at dha.gov.au (Kearns, Terry) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:22 2003 Subject: PHP (and potentially C) developers Message-ID: Our organisation is in the process of determining the technology we will use to implement server-side for our web based applications. For a number of reasons, I have recommended PHP (over Cold Fusion, ASP, and Java) on a Unix platform. We are trying to determine the availability of programmers who would be able to join our team if we were to use PHP. In my opinion, anyone who is experienced in C or perl would be able to pick up PHP very very quickly. If there is anyone out there who would be interested in developing PHP based applications, please let me know. I need this information to make it happen. Cheers. [TK] From jan.newmarch at infotech.monash.edu.au Fri Sep 7 12:28:19 2001 From: jan.newmarch at infotech.monash.edu.au (Jan Newmarch) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:22 2003 Subject: Microsoft break-up abandoned (fwd) Message-ID: Lock your daughters up, the giant has been given permission to swallow everything in its path again. Still, I guess it means that there will still be a need for Samba :-) Jan -- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 11:51:12 +1000 From: Rupeng Zhao To: "CPCA_Syd_Talk (E-mail)" , "CPCA-Mel (E-mail)" Subject: Microsoft break-up abandoned You may be interested in this news: Washington abandons bid to break-up Microsoft Check the details in http://www.smh.com.au/news/0109/07/biztech/biztech101.html Cheers Rupeng From lannet at lannet.com.au Fri Sep 7 12:51:00 2001 From: lannet at lannet.com.au (Howard Lowndes) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:22 2003 Subject: Really spooky In-Reply-To: <20010906153157.B10835@topic.com.au> Message-ID: Yes, my thoughts also that it is a mechanical problem in the switch box, but that doesn't explain why a Ctrl-Alt-Del in the C position goes to box C if it has not frozen, but goes to box D if box C has frozen. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Sam Couter wrote: > Howard Lowndes wrote: > > What is strange is that when box C freezes I can still switch to all of > > the boxes, but when I switch to box C there is, not unreasonably, a blank > > screen. However if I do a Ctrl-Alt-Del in this position (box C) then it > > causes box D to reboot. > > El cheapo switch box, which doesn't switch right when the keyboard > controller on box C is frozen, or when box C doesn't output a video signal? > > > I first thought it might be cross talk in the switch box, but that doesn't > > explain why it works OK when box C is working OK. My only other idea is > > that somehow the signal is migrating to box D over the DMZ network. > > (After thought - there is a cron job which ssh's between these two boxes > > regularly) > > Keyboard scancodes don't migrate across networks. If box D is rebooting, > then either you've configured init on box C to cause it to ssh to box D and > reboot it (unlikely), or you've really sent the Ctrl-Alt-Del sequence to box > D. Since your switch box is in charge of that, I'd point the finger squarely > at the switch box. > From sam at topic.com.au Fri Sep 7 13:24:36 2001 From: sam at topic.com.au (Sam Couter) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:22 2003 Subject: Really spooky In-Reply-To: References: <20010906153157.B10835@topic.com.au> Message-ID: <20010907132432.A2041@topic.com.au> Howard Lowndes wrote: > Yes, my thoughts also that it is a mechanical problem in the switch box, > but that doesn't explain why a Ctrl-Alt-Del in the C position goes to box > C if it has not frozen, but goes to box D if box C has frozen. Read again: > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Sam Couter wrote: > > > El cheapo switch box, which doesn't switch right when the keyboard > > controller on box C is frozen, or when box C doesn't output a video signal? The switch box might be expecting some kind of interaction with box C that it just doesn't get when box C is frozen. This lack of interaction may be causing the switch box to shit itself and become confused. Is the switch box mechanical or electronic? -- Sam Couter | Internet Engineer | http://www.topic.com.au/ sam@topic.com.au | tSA Consulting | OpenPGP key ID: DE89C75C, available on key servers OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010907/0b710dec/attachment.bin From antigramp at yahoo.com.au Fri Sep 7 13:50:23 2001 From: antigramp at yahoo.com.au (Gary Woodman) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:22 2003 Subject: Microsoft break-up abandoned (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010907035023.30969.qmail@web12703.mail.yahoo.com> --- Jan Newmarch wrote: > Lock your daughters up, the giant has been given permission to > swallow everything in its path again. Still, I guess it means > that there will still be a need for Samba :-) And Linux :-) I don't see anything panning out differently because of this. So there is still only one juggernaut for the naive populace to throw themselves under instead of two. Similarly with the HP/Compaq deal - as Ganesh Prasad pointed out: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-09-04-005-20-NW-BZ-0033 it is probably in Microsoft's interests to have one hardware division instead of two. It could work in our favour... MS will undoubtably take this legal outcome as blanket approval for past and future behaviour, and seek new heights of arrogance and avarice. As many people know, if you want a revolution, you don't make things better, you make them worse. Gary __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From adam at eschatologist.org Fri Sep 7 15:17:36 2001 From: adam at eschatologist.org (Adam) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:22 2003 Subject: PHP (and potentially C) developers References: Message-ID: <013201c1375c$7b2cff70$2b67a9ca@drathani> Depending on the application Java might not be such a bad idea. But I love PHP so I can assure you that it does all that you want it to. And you'll find lots of people who like it. I just asked my colleague and he said it's his favourite langauge too. Now if your email is actually a job offer then I'll also have to say, "Tell me more". Adam. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kearns, Terry" To: Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:54 AM Subject: PHP (and potentially C) developers > Our organisation is in the process of determining the technology we will use > to implement server-side for our web based applications. For a number of > reasons, I have recommended PHP (over Cold Fusion, ASP, and Java) on a Unix > platform. > > We are trying to determine the availability of programmers who would be able > to join our team if we were to use PHP. > > In my opinion, anyone who is experienced in C or perl would be able to pick > up PHP very very quickly. If there is anyone out there who would be > interested in developing PHP based applications, please let me know. I need > this information to make it happen. > > Cheers. > > [TK] > > From burn at goldweb.com.au Fri Sep 7 16:27:36 2001 From: burn at goldweb.com.au (Burn Alting) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:22 2003 Subject: Security .... Message-ID: <20010907062636.BEB092B837@aramis.goldweb.com.au> Hi, A friend mentioned that, on his Solaris 7 system, he noticed an open link from an arbitrary ip address to his lp daemon. Perhaps a security breach? He uses his Solaris 7 box as a gateway to the net (soon to be replaced by a Linux box). I was wondering how easy it is, given some ip address, to get information about it. Thanks in advance Burn Alting From pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au Fri Sep 7 16:41:29 2001 From: pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au (Peter Barker) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:22 2003 Subject: Security .... In-Reply-To: <20010907062636.BEB092B837@aramis.goldweb.com.au> Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Burn Alting wrote: > A friend mentioned that, on his Solaris 7 system, he noticed an open link > from an arbitrary ip address to his lp daemon. Perhaps a security breach? He > uses his Solaris 7 box as a gateway to the net (soon to be replaced by a > Linux box). You can tell your friend he has probably been rooted. There is a root-compromise out ATM for Solaris lpd. Search securityfocus.com for information. > I was wondering how easy it is, given some ip address, to get > information about it. "host " "traceroute " "xmtr " > Burn Alting Yours, -- Peter Barker | N _--_|\ /---- Barham, Vic Programmer,Sysadmin,Geek | W + E / /\ pbarker@barker.dropbear.id.au | S \_,--?_*<-- Canberra You need a bigger hammer. | v [35S, 149E] "When used legally and in its intended fashion, the Acrobat eBook Reader secures eBooks purchased by locking the eBook to the hardware from which it was purchased." -- Adobe press release From lannet at lannet.com.au Sat Sep 8 08:28:12 2001 From: lannet at lannet.com.au (Howard Lowndes) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:23 2003 Subject: ALERT: Linux backdoor trojan horse may propagate via email (fwd) Message-ID: FYI -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 14:38:39 -0700 (PDT) From: John D. Hardin To: Email Security Announce list Subject: [Esa-l] ALERT: Linux backdoor trojan horse may propagate via email FYI... http://www.qualys.com/alert/remoteshell.html Note that this isn't truly a worm, it's just an executable-infecting virus. The propagation is from receiving an infected attachment from someone who doesn't realize they are infected. -- John Hardin KA7OHZ ICQ#15735746 http://www.wolfenet.com/~jhardin/ jhardin@impsec.org pgpk -a finger://gonzo.wolfenet.com/jhardin 768: 0x41EA94F5 - A3 0C 5B C2 EF 0D 2C E5 E9 BF C8 33 A7 A9 CE 76 1024: 0xB8732E79 - 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- In 1998 more than three times as many people in the US were killed by incompetent physicians than were killed by handguns, yet the President of the A.M.A. is adopting "gun safety" as his platform. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 1152 days until the Presidential Election _______________________________________________ Esa-l mailing list Esa-l@spconnect.com http://www.spconnect.com/mailman/listinfo/esa-l From mgibbins at mindless.com Sat Sep 8 08:59:58 2001 From: mgibbins at mindless.com (Matthew Gibbins) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:23 2003 Subject: sharing a dial-up connection with a win95 system In-Reply-To: References: <595FE28AB1EBD111920F0060B06B3DD70730C126@ACTMAIL2> Message-ID: <20010908085958.A983@mak.net.au> And yo was jeremy@itassist.net.au heard to yodel: > On 5 Sep, Antti.Roppola@brs.gov.au wrote: > > jeremy wrote: > >> On 4 Sep, Mick Howe wrote: > >> > I wish to setup my RedHat 7.1 linux to provide access to > >> the web for a Win95 > >> > system. any tips or reference to a readable howto? > > > >> little while to work through - there's a lot there. > > > > Conversely, the Windows net sharing is not that painless > > either. I was going to share using Windows until I built > > my firewall. In the end, it took less time to build a > > firewall than it took to get Windows net sharing working. > > > That's unuasual. Perhaps you have a special setup, but I always found > windows networking to be fairly straightforwards. Install drivers for > card, assign IP and DNS, reboot. > I'll agree with you on the initial configuration, but as Antti mentioned it's the net sharing that's the difficult bit. A while ago I had the misfortune to set up a friends WinXX computers with Internet Connection Sharing. An adventure in wierdness. For one you have to assign the network device of the host machine on the client machine as your destination. This was confusing as both machines had exactly the same type of network card. Secondly ICS only allows a connection of two machines. And thirdly in typical MSFT fashion it has a habit of spontaneously deciding not to work...:( -- I'm not advocating that anyone take up emacs. Not even me: at my age, I'd be more likely to try bungee-jumping. It's easier, and has less risk of causing permanent brain damage. ** A posting on ZDNet forum From jeremy at itassist.net.au Sat Sep 8 14:23:36 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:23 2003 Subject: ALERT: Linux backdoor trojan horse may propagate via email (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At last, masquerading has an upside. -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... From kleptog at svana.org Sun Sep 9 11:49:21 2001 From: kleptog at svana.org (Martijn van Oosterhout) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:23 2003 Subject: 1 billion seconds Message-ID: <20010909114921.A25020@svana.org> Did anyone organise anything? -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From neilp at goldweb.com.au Sun Sep 9 12:18:27 2001 From: neilp at goldweb.com.au (Neil Pickford) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:23 2003 Subject: 1 billion seconds References: <20010909114921.A25020@svana.org> Message-ID: <3B9AD173.86440B3B@goldweb.com.au> I was going to but I forgot - Ho Hum.... Neil Pickford Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > Did anyone organise anything? > -- > Martijn van Oosterhout > http://svana.org/kleptog/ > > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From knavol at hotmail.com Sun Sep 9 05:35:08 2001 From: knavol at hotmail.com (Raphael Squire) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:23 2003 Subject: linux and mac osX Message-ID: does anybody know if it is possible to run mac osX programs on linux thanks _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From sjh at wibble.net Sun Sep 9 18:12:51 2001 From: sjh at wibble.net (Steven Hanley) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:25 2003 Subject: linux and mac osX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010909181251.A31892@shiva.marian> On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 05:35:08AM +0000, Raphael Squire wrote: > does anybody know if it is possible to run mac osX programs on linux no it isnt. although underneath macosx is darwin which is effectively freebsd, the stuff that you see on the screen is mostly provided by closed source stuff sort of like kernel modules that apple created anhd they provide the macosx environment, basically they moved all the interestingparts of the Os (ie parts that there is no technical documentation for and reverse engineering is difficult, such as 3d drivers, a lot of the sound stuff, a lot of the multi media stuff) into these closed modules which are not avaialble for download. This has two consequences, it is not possible to provide some layer or mechanism by which we can run macosx apps as they rely on an entire closed system sort of like if the X Window system were a big black box no one knew how to program for. And it means apple computers that run macox well may not be able to run linux yet as there is no support for a lot of the hardware (such as the nvidia cards in newer g4 desktops (although the support for nvidia sucks in general on all linux platforms so there is no surprise here) See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From terry.kearns at dha.gov.au Mon Sep 10 11:04:53 2001 From: terry.kearns at dha.gov.au (Kearns, Terry) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:25 2003 Subject: Cold Fusion -> PHP Message-ID: Hi Simon, Unfortunately the change would _not_ be easy. As you know, Cold Fusion takes a less traditional approach to application building (which gives it it's strength - speed). PHP is more like a traditional procedural language relying strongly on functions. More recently (couple of years ago) it acquired OO capabilities so it can also be adopted by OO shops. I have found that the only way I can really modulise CF code (apart from includes) is to make custom tags, but you can only take things so far before things start getting ugly or I have to use another language anyway. I would still recommend CF for people who want to build small applications, but for medium to large apps, more traditional languages afford tried ant tested methodologies. It is important to note that PHP is purpose built for the web when comparing it to JAVA or PERL or VBScript. Even though JSP and ASP are an adoptions for the web, the languages behind them were never web service (I don't mean client) languages to begin with. PHP tackles http issues better than any other language out there today. It's session management capabilities are unparalleled i.e.. you can instantiate an object, register it with a session (maybe one of many), then access that same object instance on another page. You can freeze any given session (with all it's variables) and dump the content to a file or DB and then thaw it out by simply resuming it at a later date. There are several ways to achieve persistence (sessions) without cookies too (some of which rely on Apache). Output buffering is another example of how PHP is purpose built for the web. No other language allows you to trap content (normally being written out in the http stream) into local space where it can be accessed as a variable and optionally released after done some other processing. I've used this technique to effect funky caching techniques (see PHP.net conference notes). Compared to CF, PHP has a longer development cycle for very small projects, but due to it's modular way of working, it is actually quicker for larger applications - and _much_ easier to maintain in my experience. Documentation is also easier. I am working on a small/medium size CF app at work and it is painful :( In short, there is no easy conversion process from CF to PHP, but it is most _definately_ worth the effort. You'll never look back. > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Haddon [mailto:simon@sibern.com.au] > Sent: Monday, 10 September 2001 7:13 > To: Kearns, Terry > Subject: Re: PHP (and potentially C) developers > > > How different is PHP to Coldfusion? I have good experience C > Coldfusion > could I make the transfer easily? > > -- > Simon Haddon, E-mail: simon@sibern.com.au > Sibern Solutions Pty Ltd, 38 Beasley St, Pearce, ACT 2607 > Tel: 02, 62864500, Fax: 02, 62864526 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > On 7/09/01, 11:54:43 AM, "Kearns, Terry" > wrote > regarding PHP (and potentially C) developers: > > > > Our organisation is in the process of determining the > technology we will > use > > to implement server-side for our web based applications. > For a number of > > reasons, I have recommended PHP (over Cold Fusion, ASP, and > Java) on a > Unix > > platform. > > > We are trying to determine the availability of programmers > who would be > able > > to join our team if we were to use PHP. > > > In my opinion, anyone who is experienced in C or perl would > be able to > pick > > up PHP very very quickly. If there is anyone out there who would be > > interested in developing PHP based applications, please let > me know. I > need > > this information to make it happen. > > > Cheers. > > > [TK] > From matthew at topic.com.au Mon Sep 10 11:31:48 2001 From: matthew at topic.com.au (Matthew Hawkins) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:26 2003 Subject: 1 billion seconds In-Reply-To: <20010909114921.A25020@svana.org> References: <20010909114921.A25020@svana.org> Message-ID: <20010910113148.B50460@topic.com.au> On Sun, 09 Sep 2001, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > Did anyone organise anything? I celebrated in true geek fashion - I was sound asleep after being up all night tinkering with my Linux box at home (first time I've booted it in 5 months). Both it and the router are running 2.4.9-ac10, booting with grub, have the latest packages and I even installed KDE and had a play (after working around a bug in Debian's kdm). I love Mr Potato Guy :-) One thing I did not get around to was putting on xfs, I'll save that for another weekend. Happy New Billennium! -- Matt From jeremy at itassist.net.au Mon Sep 10 14:56:01 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:26 2003 Subject: Cold Fusion -> PHP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm unable to restrain myself... I understand your fervour, but watch out for statements like 'no other language can...'. Just for starters, PHP is programmed in C, so there is definately one other language that can do the same thing, and that is the language your interpreter is written in. In a similar way you can get the functionality of Perl in your C programs by linking against the perl function libraries. Finally from a more distant point of view, pretty much any language that calls itself a programming language is Turing complete, and can be mapped to any other language. The only consideration is how much work you would have to do to emulate another language. You are probably at the point where you have discovered that some languages really are much better for certain tasks, but not yet realising that most languages are very similar, provided you stay within the OO/functional/procedural boundaries. > No other language allows you to trap content (normally being written out in > the http stream) into local space where it can be accessed as a variable and > optionally released after done some other processing. I've used this > technique to effect funky caching techniques (see PHP.net conference notes). I don't think your first statement is accurate. -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... From rjenkins at pop.alphalink.com.au Sun Sep 9 17:35:39 2001 From: rjenkins at pop.alphalink.com.au (Irena and Richard Jenkins) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:26 2003 Subject: AT case + PS Wanted Message-ID: I am in need of an AT case for my second computer. The present problem with my mini-tower is that the power supply has become a little unreliable and the power switch is definitely faulty! I shouldn't complain ... as the case is almost ten years of age ... and has had a hard life!! It has been carted up and down to the coast, been reconfigured countless times ... and repaired as necessary. It always was just a cheap case ... but it's now getting to be a problem. The new case will stand on the floor under my desk ... so a larger model would be great! I have two hard drives (3.5 in) and a CD-ROM ... so there is not too much need for a server case. Just another tower case would be wonderful. Is there anything cluttering up your shack ... and in need of a trip to my house?? Richard -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Irena and Richard Jenkins VK1NDV & VK1RJ Canberra, Australia +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From simonb at webone.com.au Mon Sep 10 23:02:43 2001 From: simonb at webone.com.au (simonb@webone.com.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:26 2003 Subject: http downloading of big files Message-ID: <3B9CB9F3.9010104@webone.com.au> well, im trying tow download a 50MB file with http... how can i get wget (or anything) to resume where it (inevitably) stoped last time? am i doomed to write an http client to do this? From mark at purcell.aaa.net.au Mon Sep 10 23:29:11 2001 From: mark at purcell.aaa.net.au (Mark Purcell) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:26 2003 Subject: http downloading of big files In-Reply-To: <3B9CB9F3.9010104@webone.com.au> References: <3B9CB9F3.9010104@webone.com.au> Message-ID: <20010910232911.B449@solo.purcell.homeip.net> On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 11:02:43PM +1000, simonb@webone.com.au wrote: > well, > im trying tow download a 50MB file > with http... > how can i get wget (or anything) > to resume where it (inevitably) stoped > last time? Why don't you try `wget -c` -c --continue-ftp Continue retrieval of FTP documents, from where it was left off. If you specify "wget -c ftp://sun- site.doc.ic.ac.uk/ls-lR.Z", and there is already a file named ls-lR.Z in the current directory, wget continue retrieval from the offset equal to the length of the existing file. Note that you do not need to specify this option if the only thing you want is wget to continue retrieving where it left off when the connection is lost - wget does this by default. You need this option when you want to con- tinue retrieval of a file already halfway retrieved, saved by other FTP software, or left by wget being killed. The -c option is also applicable for HTTP servers that support the `Range' header. Mark From simon at sibern.com.au Tue Sep 11 00:58:22 2001 From: simon at sibern.com.au (Simon Haddon) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:26 2003 Subject: Cold Fusion -> PHP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010910.14582232@magnum.sibern.com.au> Hi Terry, Thanks for the summary of PHP benefits. I do think there are somethings that I must point out to you about Coldfusion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 10/09/01, 11:04:53 AM, "Kearns, Terry" wrote regarding Cold Fusion -> PHP: > Hi Simon, [snip] > I have found that the only way I can really modulise CF code (apart from > includes) is to make custom tags, but you can only take things so far before > things start getting ugly or I have to use another language anyway. I would > still recommend CF for people who want to build small applications, but for > medium to large apps, more traditional languages afford tried ant tested > methodologies. It is important to note that PHP is purpose built for the web > when comparing it to JAVA or PERL or VBScript. Even though JSP and ASP are > an adoptions for the web, the languages behind them were never web service > (I don't mean client) languages to begin with. Have you tried using Fusebox. It enabled quite large sites to be written in a very modulised fashion. (with CF5 you can have functions). You have a more traditional approach using it than not. As for things getting ugly I have only found that it gets ugly when people don't follow a decent methodology. This is also true of any programming language. I have worked on quite a few projects in my time and I have seen alot of crap programming irrelevant of the language used. PHP would only help of a decent methodology was used with it. > PHP tackles http issues better than any other language out there today. It's > session management capabilities are unparalleled i.e.. you can instantiate > an object, register it with a session (maybe one of many), then access that > same object instance on another page. You can freeze any given session (with > all it's variables) and dump the content to a file or DB and then thaw it > out by simply resuming it at a later date. I must admit that sounds good. I have one client that has the same effect but has to do it programmatically in Coldfusion. There are several ways to achieve > persistence (sessions) without cookies too (some of which rely on Apache). > Output buffering is another example of how PHP is purpose built for the web. > No other language allows you to trap content (normally being written out in > the http stream) into local space where it can be accessed as a variable and > optionally released after done some other processing. I've used this > technique to effect funky caching techniques (see PHP.net conference notes). This is not true. Coldfusion allows you to trap any content you like and then process it. You can make your own tags using just a few lines that allow for the body content to captured or any part there of and then do as you like with it before you dump it to the http stream. > Compared to CF, PHP has a longer development cycle for very small projects, > but due to it's modular way of working, it is actually quicker for larger > applications - and _much_ easier to maintain in my experience. Documentation > is also easier. I am working on a small/medium size CF app at work and it is > painful :( I do agree that Coldfusion is quicker to get of the ground from what I've been told and even MS admit that it is quicker than ASP (just search for coldfusion at the ms web site). Again I find that using a decent methodology is the key to a larger project. I find that Fusebox is a good approach to making CF code very modular, easier to maintain, debug etc and easier to document. As for small projects I have found CF a breeze. I have/am working on a range of projects sizing from a dozen pages to some very complex code. Try audit.ea.gov.au for a big site > In short, there is no easy conversion process from CF to PHP, but it is most > _definately_ worth the effort. You'll never look back. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Simon Haddon [mailto:simon@sibern.com.au] > > Sent: Monday, 10 September 2001 7:13 > > To: Kearns, Terry > > Subject: Re: PHP (and potentially C) developers > > > > > > How different is PHP to Coldfusion? I have good experience C > > Coldfusion > > could I make the transfer easily? > > > > -- > > Simon Haddon, E-mail: simon@sibern.com.au > > Sibern Solutions Pty Ltd, 38 Beasley St, Pearce, ACT 2607 > > Tel: 02, 62864500, Fax: 02, 62864526 > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > On 7/09/01, 11:54:43 AM, "Kearns, Terry" > > wrote > > regarding PHP (and potentially C) developers: > > > > > > > Our organisation is in the process of determining the > > technology we will > > use > > > to implement server-side for our web based applications. > > For a number of > > > reasons, I have recommended PHP (over Cold Fusion, ASP, and > > Java) on a > > Unix > > > platform. > > > > > We are trying to determine the availability of programmers > > who would be > > able > > > to join our team if we were to use PHP. > > > > > In my opinion, anyone who is experienced in C or perl would > > be able to > > pick > > > up PHP very very quickly. If there is anyone out there who would be > > > interested in developing PHP based applications, please let > > me know. I > > need > > > this information to make it happen. > > > > > Cheers. > > > > > [TK] > > From linux-boy at acenet.com.au Tue Sep 11 17:24:53 2001 From: linux-boy at acenet.com.au (Stephen Granger) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:26 2003 Subject: asp, squid proxy error In-Reply-To: <20010910232911.B449@solo.purcell.homeip.net> References: <3B9CB9F3.9010104@webone.com.au> <20010910232911.B449@solo.purcell.homeip.net> Message-ID: <20010911172453.A1186@stevelap> Hi all, this maybe off topic, sorry if I offend any true to the line, never stray, complete linux users. :-P I'm having trouble viewing a webpage through a number of browsers, EI 5.5/win32, mozilla 9.3, Netscape 6.1/win32, Netscape 4.77/win32 . When I try and view a website, www.screentechnics.com.au , specifically, www.screentechnics.com.au/commercial/side.asp , follow the commercial screens link from the intial page, I receive an error, Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers '80040e37' . This only happens when I direct my web browsers to use a proxy server to pass http and ftp content through. This proxy server is running SQUID 2.4STABLE1. Know that when I remove the proxy setting from the browser, the page is able to show itself, no errors are reported. I've checked google, gives the microsoft tech solution... not what I need, typical microsoft help/solution... never really answers the question. (don't need to respond to this comment... :) Now I use adzapper, a squid redirect program with squid, I'm pretty sure this doesn't have any affect on viewing the page. There is a cookie sent, in the intial instant, something which I picked up on with lynx... www.squid-cache.org search has something in the FAQ about secure asp sites... this site is not a secure site. Searching again gives nothing for the above error, asp error, or the error code alone. As you can probably guess, I've exausted most of my possibilities, and was hoping that some one might be able to suggest some other things. Steve From jeremy at itassist.net.au Wed Sep 12 05:35:25 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:27 2003 Subject: Coda Message-ID: Has anyone ever got Coda going, or heard of someone who has? I just tried on multiple machines (all running Debian woody or potato, different kernels, etc) and the coda server just locks up a few seconds after starting. No explanation in logs or anything. Grr. Would appreciate any tips from someone who knows how. -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010912/1572fdb2/attachment.bin From simon at sibern.com.au Wed Sep 12 06:41:40 2001 From: simon at sibern.com.au (Simon Haddon) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:27 2003 Subject: asp, squid proxy error In-Reply-To: <20010911172453.A1186@stevelap> References: <3B9CB9F3.9010104@webone.com.au> <20010910232911.B449@solo.purcell.homeip.net> <20010911172453.A1186@stevelap> Message-ID: <20010911.20414048@magnum.sibern.com.au> Hi Steve, I know this is not an answer but it might help. I have a linux server with win98 desktops I also use Squid 2.4 stable and I have no problems viewing the pages. From what you have described, the only difference is that you are using a 5.5 of ie (yes it does have some problems) and that adzapper program. Cheers, Simon -- Simon Haddon, E-mail: simon@sibern.com.au Sibern Solutions Pty Ltd, 38 Beasley St, Pearce, ACT 2607 Tel: 02, 62864500, Fax: 02, 62864526 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 11/09/01, 5:24:53 PM, Stephen Granger wrote regarding asp, squid proxy error: > Hi all, > this maybe off topic, sorry if I offend any true to the line, never stray, complete linux users. :-P > I'm having trouble viewing a webpage through a number of browsers, EI 5.5/win32, mozilla 9.3, Netscape 6.1/win32, Netscape 4.77/win32 . When I try and view a website, www.screentechnics.com.au , specifically, www.screentechnics.com.au/commercial/side.asp , follow the commercial screens link from the intial page, I receive an error, Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers '80040e37' . > This only happens when I direct my web browsers to use a proxy server to pass http and ftp content through. This proxy server is running SQUID 2.4STABLE1. > Know that when I remove the proxy setting from the browser, the page is able to show itself, no errors are reported. > I've checked google, gives the microsoft tech solution... not what I need, typical microsoft help/solution... never really answers the question. (don't need to respond to this comment... :) > Now I use adzapper, a squid redirect program with squid, I'm pretty sure this doesn't have any affect on viewing the page. > There is a cookie sent, in the intial instant, something which I picked up on with lynx... > www.squid-cache.org search has something in the FAQ about secure asp sites... this site is not a secure site. Searching again gives nothing for the above error, asp error, or the error code alone. > As you can probably guess, I've exausted most of my possibilities, and was hoping that some one might be able to suggest some other things. > Steve From simonb at webone.com.au Wed Sep 12 10:55:53 2001 From: simonb at webone.com.au (simonb@webone.com.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:27 2003 Subject: asp, squid proxy error References: <3B9CB9F3.9010104@webone.com.au> <20010910232911.B449@solo.purcell.homeip.net> <20010911172453.A1186@stevelap> Message-ID: <3B9EB299.3060705@webone.com.au> Yes, i get this error aswell... I'd like to know what's going on, keep me posted, (using squid-2.2STABLE5 and mozilla-9.3) Simon Burton Stephen Granger wrote: >Hi all, > >this maybe off topic, sorry if I offend any true to the line, never stray, complete linux users. :-P > >I'm having trouble viewing a webpage through a number of browsers, EI 5.5/win32, mozilla 9.3, Netscape 6.1/win32, Netscape 4.77/win32 . When I try and view a website, www.screentechnics.com.au , specifically, www.screentechnics.com.au/commercial/side.asp , follow the commercial screens link from the intial page, I receive an error, Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers '80040e37' . >This only happens when I direct my web browsers to use a proxy server to pass http and ftp content through. This proxy server is running SQUID 2.4STABLE1. >Know that when I remove the proxy setting from the browser, the page is able to show itself, no errors are reported. > >I've checked google, gives the microsoft tech solution... not what I need, typical microsoft help/solution... never really answers the question. (don't need to respond to this comment... :) > >Now I use adzapper, a squid redirect program with squid, I'm pretty sure this doesn't have any affect on viewing the page. > >There is a cookie sent, in the intial instant, something which I picked up on with lynx... > >www.squid-cache.org search has something in the FAQ about secure asp sites... this site is not a secure site. Searching again gives nothing for the above error, asp error, or the error code alone. > >As you can probably guess, I've exausted most of my possibilities, and was hoping that some one might be able to suggest some other things. > >Steve > > > From jeremy at itassist.net.au Wed Sep 12 23:07:41 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:27 2003 Subject: Mail clients Message-ID: Could I get quick poll here? How many of you are seeing this message dispalyed 'inline' and how many have to click on an attachment to read it? Please mention which email reader you are using. -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010912/9e8ba807/attachment.bin From resolve at repose.cx Wed Sep 12 23:15:52 2001 From: resolve at repose.cx (Damien Elmes) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:27 2003 Subject: Mail clients In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <86y9nklfcn.fsf@reflex.repose.cx> jeremy@itassist.net.au writes: > Could I get quick poll here? How many of you are seeing this message > dispalyed 'inline' and how many have to click on an attachment to read > it? Please mention which email reader you are using. gnus, inline. cheers! -- Damien Elmes resolve@repose.cx From richard_c at tpg.com.au Wed Sep 12 23:21:44 2001 From: richard_c at tpg.com.au (Richard Cottrill) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:27 2003 Subject: Mail clients In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Outlook 2000 SR-1 The message is inline. There's an odd .data attachment called ATT00086.dat that contains only a PGP signature thus: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Gung v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA7n14d2h+oKJezvhIRAjYLAKCKQaP8eQYtwRZMqEDsH5sa7d0kfQCglsnH EMm/k8DxzwORdYVfYQxOhsg= =fdc6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Richard -----Original Message----- From: linux-admin@lists.samba.org [mailto:linux-admin@lists.samba.org]On Behalf Of jeremy@itassist.net.au Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:08 PM To: linux@samba.org Subject: Mail clients Could I get quick poll here? How many of you are seeing this message dispalyed 'inline' and how many have to click on an attachment to read it? Please mention which email reader you are using. -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... From kleptog at svana.org Wed Sep 12 23:28:30 2001 From: kleptog at svana.org (Martijn van Oosterhout) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:28 2003 Subject: Mail clients In-Reply-To: ; from jeremy@itassist.net.au on Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 11:07:41PM +1000 References: Message-ID: <20010912232830.A2398@svana.org> On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 11:07:41PM +1000, jeremy@itassist.net.au wrote: > Could I get quick poll here? How many of you are seeing this message > dispalyed 'inline' and how many have to click on an attachment to read > it? Please mention which email reader you are using. Inline, bracketed by [This text is pgp signed] Mutt -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From Robert.Edwards at anu.edu.au Wed Sep 12 23:27:56 2001 From: Robert.Edwards at anu.edu.au (Bob Edwards) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:28 2003 Subject: Mail clients References: Message-ID: <3B9F62DC.958EDD26@anu.edu.au> jeremy@itassist.net.au wrote: > > Could I get quick poll here? How many of you are seeing this message > dispalyed 'inline' and how many have to click on an attachment to read > it? Please mention which email reader you are using. > > -- > I/O, I/O, > It's off to disk I go, > A bit or byte to read or write, > I/O, I/O, I/O... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Part 1.2Type: APPLICATION/pgp-signature Netscape: inline + PGP attachment Bob Edwards From matthew at topic.com.au Thu Sep 13 00:14:40 2001 From: matthew at topic.com.au (Matthew Hawkins) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:28 2003 Subject: Mail clients In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010913001440.B2049@topic.com.au> On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, jeremy@itassist.net.au wrote: > Could I get quick poll here? How many of you are seeing this message > dispalyed 'inline' and how many have to click on an attachment to read > it? Please mention which email reader you are using. Mutt 1.3.22.1i. Viewed inline like all good mail readers. The one I hate is notoriously Eudora which insists on not using MIME at all, just places the ascii-armoured output of the pgp application into the message body. Procmail to the rescue.... -- Matt From lannet at lannet.com.au Thu Sep 13 04:49:00 2001 From: lannet at lannet.com.au (Howard Lowndes) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:28 2003 Subject: Mail clients In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1000320540.3b9fae1cd4a3b@mail.lannet.com.au> The message is inline, the GPG sig is an attachment. Mail client is IMP from Horde - IMAP browser based over an https connection. Quoting jeremy@itassist.net.au: > Could I get quick poll here? How many of you are seeing this message > dispalyed 'inline' and how many have to click on an attachment to read > it? Please mention which email reader you are using. > > > -- > I/O, I/O, > It's off to disk I go, > A bit or byte to read or write, > I/O, I/O, I/O... > > Howard. ____________________________________________________ LANNet Computing Associates "...well, it worked before _you_ touched it!" ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: mail.lannet.com.au From simon at sibern.com.au Thu Sep 13 06:59:21 2001 From: simon at sibern.com.au (Simon Haddon) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:28 2003 Subject: Mail clients In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010912.20592109@magnum.sibern.com.au> Inline using Staroffice 5.2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 12/09/01, 11:07:41 PM, jeremy@itassist.net.au wrote regarding Mail clients: > Could I get quick poll here? How many of you are seeing this message > dispalyed 'inline' and how many have to click on an attachment to read > it? Please mention which email reader you are using. > -- > I/O, I/O, > It's off to disk I go, > A bit or byte to read or write, > I/O, I/O, I/O... From jeremy at itassist.net.au Thu Sep 13 07:05:26 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:28 2003 Subject: Mail client follow-up Message-ID: Thank you all who responded so promptly. Some of you are going to be very tired at work today, I am sure :) I thought people might be interested in a quick summary of the mail clients that can cope with MIME attachments enough to display the message body correctly: RMAIL, Eudora, IMP, Sylpheed (I'm going to have to try this one just for the name - v. cool), Netscape, Outlook 2000 SR-1, gnus, pine, Staroffice, and Tkrat (implies postillion) I need this because someone on the list (as well as a few others) have been berating me for using a 'non-standard' mail client. We're currently going eleven-to-one on his 'standard' mail client, which is coincidentally shipped with most versions of windows. I guess that is a standard, in a 'lowest common denominator' kind of way. -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010913/f2aabbe5/attachment.bin From adavid at adavid.com.au Thu Sep 13 08:01:35 2001 From: adavid at adavid.com.au (Anthony David) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:28 2003 Subject: Mail client follow-up In-Reply-To: (jeremy@itassist.net.au) References: Message-ID: <200109122201.f8CM1Ze19615@adavid.com.au> > From: jeremy@itassist.net.au > > --657920-1714636915-1000328742=:2532 > Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Thank you all who responded so promptly. Some of you are going to be > very tired at work today, I am sure :) > > I thought people might be interested in a quick summary of the mail > clients that can cope with MIME attachments enough to display the > message body correctly: > > RMAIL, Eudora, IMP, Sylpheed (I'm going to have to try this one just for > the name - v. cool), Netscape, Outlook 2000 SR-1, gnus, pine, > Staroffice, and Tkrat (implies postillion) > > > I need this because someone on the list (as well as a few others) have > been berating me for using a 'non-standard' mail client. We're > currently going eleven-to-one on his 'standard' mail client, which is > coincidentally shipped with most versions of windows. I guess that is > a standard, in a 'lowest common denominator' kind of way. I can't believe someone on this list would expect everyone to use the "standard" LAN mail client when using an INTERNET mailing list on LINUX. Is the world to write web pages for the "standard" browser spat out by the "standard" web server, running on the "standard" operating system running on the "standard" hardware platform. I don't mind ignorance, what annoys me is willful ignorance laced with arrogance. (I don't sound arrogant do I :-) -- Anthony David Gambling(n): A discretionary tax on those asleep during high school maths http://adavid.com.au/ 0xA72CE1ED fingerprint = EA1E C69E FE59 BBE1 AA4B F354 BD09 9765 A72C E1ED From jeremy at itassist.net.au Thu Sep 13 07:52:48 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:28 2003 Subject: Mail client follow-up In-Reply-To: <200109122201.f8CM1Ze19615@adavid.com.au> Message-ID: > I can't believe someone on this list would expect everyone to use > the "standard" LAN mail client when using an INTERNET mailing list > on LINUX. Oh I message him off list too, but apparently his index finger is broken and he is in too much pain to move the mouse to the menu and configure his email client properly. It's a suprisingly common affliction. > Is the world to write web pages for the "standard" browser spat out by > the "standard" web server, running on the "standard" operating system > running on the "standard" hardware platform. At this point in time, I'd say yes. BTW have you all heard of the SSSCA. It would make for some interesting standards in America. Slightly overshadow by some recent events, but the analysis is here: http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=8163 -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From rjenkins at pop.alphalink.com.au Thu Sep 13 09:22:09 2001 From: rjenkins at pop.alphalink.com.au (Irena and Richard Jenkins) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:28 2003 Subject: PCI Cards - IDE Controllers In-Reply-To: <20010913001440.B2049@topic.com.au> References: <20010913001440.B2049@topic.com.au> Message-ID: A hardware question for you to ponder. I have found no direct answer in the hardware howto. My new hard drive isn't recognised by my bios. Do I need to purchase a pci card with hard disk controller on it. They are avaiable in the magazines for 60 or 70 bananas. Is such a card recognised by kernel 2.2 ?? Someone said just ignore the bios incompetence and go ahead ... the linux installer will find the hard drive even if the bios cannot? There is the possibility of an upgrade on the bios. Or I could buy a new motherboard ... sob!! I need a socket 7 ... with support for the AMD2-350. Please help me... Richard -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Irena and Richard Jenkins VK1NDV & VK1RJ Canberra, Australia +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From mikal at stillhq.com Thu Sep 13 09:32:37 2001 From: mikal at stillhq.com (Michael Still) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:28 2003 Subject: Mail client follow-up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 jeremy@itassist.net.au wrote: > Thank you all who responded so promptly. Some of you are going to be > very tired at work today, I am sure :) Pine 4.30 also displays the message fine, but the attachment is not viewable. Mikal -- Michael Still (mikal@stillhq.com) From neilp at goldweb.com.au Thu Sep 13 09:54:36 2001 From: neilp at goldweb.com.au (neilp@goldweb.com.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:29 2003 Subject: Mail client follow-up Message-ID: <1000338876.3b9ff5bc15d59@www.goldweb.com.au> Hello Jeremy I must admit PGP signing DOES bug me too (at the salt mine). Yes the offending client is Outlook 98 v8.5.5 I use Netscape 4.77 at home as my main E-mail client and have no problem preview/reading Jeremy's messages. Unfortunately not everyone is in control of the Standard Operating Environment they are supplied to access E-Mail at the salt mine, so we have to put up with crap like Outlook. This is why I have to use a web mail client (IMP) to post to the list from the salt mine as well. (so don't expect this message to be correctly threaded.) It was implied by one of your responses that there IS a way of changing the preview behaviour for PGP in these wayward applications. If this is so then don't keep it a secret. Neil Pickford ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail was brought to you by Goldweb Internet Web Mail Interface URL: http://www.goldweb.com.au/ From ipm105 at rsphysse.anu.edu.au Thu Sep 13 10:22:14 2001 From: ipm105 at rsphysse.anu.edu.au (Ian McCulloch) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:29 2003 Subject: Mail client follow-up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 jeremy@itassist.net.au wrote: > > At this point in time, I'd say yes. BTW have you all heard of the > SSSCA. It would make for some interesting standards in America. > Slightly overshadow by some recent events, but the analysis is here: > > http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=8163 > It will be a very interesting time if this legislation passes. This is the most facist piece of legislation I have ever seen. eg, I cant see any way something like a compiler could ever comply with this, unless it was stripped to the point of being almost useless. It isn't directly stated, but would an implication of this be hardware manufacturers be forced to implement measures to prevent ANY unauthorized code at all? eg with asymmetric crypto built into the executable format or something. Fortunately most of it is obviously unenforcable (and of course only in America!) but it would appear to make pretty much all general purpose computers and software illegal. Cheers, Ian From martin at meltin.net Thu Sep 13 10:43:28 2001 From: martin at meltin.net (Martin Schwenke) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:29 2003 Subject: Mail clients In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010913004418.9B351411B@lists.samba.org> >>>>> "Jeremy" == jeremy writes: Jeremy> Could I get quick poll here? How many of you are seeing Jeremy> this message dispalyed 'inline' and how many have to click Jeremy> on an attachment to read it? Please mention which email Jeremy> reader you are using. Inline with PGP signature attachment. Emacs/VM. Ooh! Then I hit D and it became a button! This means that I could configure VM to not display text/plain internally... :-) peace & happiness, martin From jeremy at itassist.net.au Thu Sep 13 10:41:32 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:29 2003 Subject: Mail client follow-up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >> At this point in time, I'd say yes. BTW have you all heard of the >> SSSCA. It would make for some interesting standards in America. >> Slightly overshadow by some recent events, but the analysis is here: >> >> http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=8163 >> > > It will be a very interesting time if this legislation passes. This > is the most facist piece of legislation I have ever seen. eg, I cant > see any way something like a compiler could ever comply with this, > unless it was stripped to the point of being almost useless. It isn't > directly stated, but would an implication of this be hardware > manufacturers be forced to implement measures to prevent ANY > unauthorized code at all? eg with asymmetric crypto built into the > executable format or something. We beat the hell out of the topic at PM if you're interested: http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=111642 > Fortunately most of it is obviously unenforcable (and of course only > in America!) but it would appear to make pretty much all general > purpose computers and software illegal. And yet, someone put their name on this bill. Assuming it's not a joke - well, it is a joke anyway - some twit actually suspended his thinking or his morals and backed the bill. Thankfully our lawmakers aren't quite this stupid. I guess we shouldn't be too complacent - we imitate America in every other way. Is there anyone here who actually bothers to keep an eye on what federal parliment is doing? I occaisionally cast an eye over the goings on for the local assembly (they have online hansard, yay!), but I'd never be aware of anything like this happening in federal parliment. -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010913/2af77ba4/attachment.bin From jeremy at itassist.net.au Thu Sep 13 11:02:17 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:29 2003 Subject: PCI Cards - IDE Controllers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > My new hard drive isn't recognised by my bios. > Someone said just ignore the bios incompetence and go ahead ... the > linux installer will find the hard drive even if the bios cannot? Put /boot on your old drive and keep your bigger dirs like /var/ and /home and /usr on the new drive. I have my old 6gb bootstrapping my 40Gb. Works fine. > There is the possibility of an upgrade on the bios. Almost never worth the hassle. > Or I could buy a new motherboard ... sob!! I need a socket 7 ... > with support for the AMD2-350. They probably don't even make 'em any more. Just drop $500 on the table for a spanking new Ghz Athlon and board. -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010913/252bacf3/attachment.bin From jeremy at itassist.net.au Thu Sep 13 11:31:50 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (Jeremy) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:29 2003 Subject: Mail client follow-up In-Reply-To: <1000338876.3b9ff5bc15d59@www.goldweb.com.au> References: <1000338876.3b9ff5bc15d59@www.goldweb.com.au> Message-ID: <20010913113150.3aa0cfd1.jeremy@itassist.net.au> > > It was implied by one of your responses that there IS a way of > changing the preview behaviour for PGP in these wayward > applications. If this is so then don't keep it a secret. I apologise. I had vague memories that one of the version of outlook could be forced to display attachments inline. Unfortuneatly no the one you seem to be using. Have you considered a Java applet? You chould be able to run it, and I'm sure there are some around. -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010913/c561fefa/attachment.bin From kleptog at svana.org Thu Sep 13 13:19:11 2001 From: kleptog at svana.org (Martijn van Oosterhout) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:29 2003 Subject: Mail client follow-up In-Reply-To: ; from jeremy@itassist.net.au on Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 10:41:32AM +1000 References: Message-ID: <20010913131911.A4652@svana.org> On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 10:41:32AM +1000, jeremy@itassist.net.au wrote: > Thankfully our lawmakers aren't quite this stupid. I guess we shouldn't > be too complacent - we imitate America in every other way. Well, we don't don't generally have large companies backing representatives in parliment to push through various bills. I do think that makes a difference. > Is there anyone here who actually bothers to keep an eye on what federal > parliment is doing? I occaisionally cast an eye over the goings on for > the local assembly (they have online hansard, yay!), but I'd never be > aware of anything like this happening in federal parliment. Well, I've looked on aph.gov.au and that's always heaping going on that it's hard to keep track of everything. Maybe there is a mailing list where new bills are posted or something. Incidentally, the law people are claiming is the australian version of the DMCA is not as bad. It talks about anti-circumvention stuff but circumvention for the purposes of allowing blind people to read it is enough defense (from my reading anyway). And most importantly, it doesn't make it a criminal offence. All from my reading, I may be wrong there... Anyone know of ways to keep up with this kind of thing? -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From sam at topic.com.au Thu Sep 13 13:23:59 2001 From: sam at topic.com.au (Sam Couter) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:29 2003 Subject: PCI Cards - IDE Controllers In-Reply-To: References: <20010913001440.B2049@topic.com.au> Message-ID: <20010913132359.G12103@topic.com.au> Irena and Richard Jenkins wrote: > > My new hard drive isn't recognised by my bios. Not a problem if you don't need to boot from it. > Someone said just ignore the bios incompetence and go ahead ... the > linux installer will find the hard drive even if the bios cannot? The BIOS only needs to know about the drive if you want to boot from it. The Linux kernel will probe the hardware directly, rather than asking the BIOS to tell it about the hardware. -- Sam Couter | Internet Engineer | http://www.topic.com.au/ sam@topic.com.au | tSA Consulting | OpenPGP key ID: DE89C75C, available on key servers OpenPGP fingerprint: A46B 9BB5 3148 7BEA 1F05 5BD5 8530 03AE DE89 C75C -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010913/531d09af/attachment.bin From linux-boy at acenet.com.au Thu Sep 13 17:02:16 2001 From: linux-boy at acenet.com.au (Stephen Granger) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:30 2003 Subject: MRTG how safe is it? Message-ID: <20010913170216.A1299@stevelap> Hi again, I'm just about to setup MRTG to monitor system load and the mail statistics on a server, and I was wondering on peoples recommendations of how safe this is, in regards security. This is the first time I have actually setup my own service running from inetd and I not really sure of the consequences that could come about from this. I'm following the scripts & etc from Nate Amsden at http://portal.aphroland.org/mrtg-config/ Running a shell script as nobody seems safe, what owneship, and other stuff could I do to improve the security? After skimming the man for inetd.conf I didn't find anything that could help me out, and I'm not really sure where to start looking... or what to type into google :) Steve From matthew at topic.com.au Thu Sep 13 18:37:00 2001 From: matthew at topic.com.au (Matthew Hawkins) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:30 2003 Subject: MRTG how safe is it? In-Reply-To: <20010913170216.A1299@stevelap> References: <20010913170216.A1299@stevelap> Message-ID: <20010913183700.H80104@topic.com.au> On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Stephen Granger wrote: > http://portal.aphroland.org/mrtg-config/ > > Running a shell script as nobody seems safe, what owneship, and other stuff > could I do to improve the security? Make sure the "nobody" user cannot read and definately not write to any filesystem you don't want it to access # su nobody % find / and fix permissions with chmod accordingly. > After skimming the man for inetd.conf I didn't find anything that could help > me out, and I'm not really sure where to start looking... or what to type > into google :) My first question after reading those scripts is "Why?". I'm not sure what the purpose of running from inetd is at all. mrtg will quite happily execute anything you permit it to, so the lines reading: Target[mail.graphon.com.mailbytes]: `/usr/bin/nc mail.graphon.com 9052` could quite easily be Target[mail.graphon.com.mailbytes]: `/usr/local/sbin/mrtg-mailstats` instead, and you can do away with using inetd altogether. This seems infinately more secure to me as you are not opening the script to any outsiders via inetd or relying on features of certain inetd programs (like rlinetd & xinetd) to protect you if you do anyway, there's two less points of failure in the system (inetd & netcat), there's no network traffic involved, ... -- Matt From s3292467 at student.anu.edu.au Fri Sep 14 13:53:02 2001 From: s3292467 at student.anu.edu.au (Paul Warren) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:30 2003 Subject: Mail clients References: Message-ID: <005501c13cd0$c3c646a0$1a068690@wazawin> outlook Express 5, as an attatchment, tho i'm sure theres an option somewhere in the hideous menu to change this ;o) Paul Warren s3292467@student.anu.edu.au www.geocities.com/qvack_82/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 23:07 PM Subject: Mail clients From Andrew.Gartside at dsto.defence.gov.au Fri Sep 14 16:03:55 2001 From: Andrew.Gartside at dsto.defence.gov.au (Gartside, Andrew) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:30 2003 Subject: Naming my computer on a LAN Message-ID: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C05B39E3@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> I'm using RedHat 7.1, purely in text mode (no GUI packages installed). I'm connected to a LAN, but have not configured proxy servers yet. Nevertheless, I can ping my machine using its IP address and can open shared files on the LAN. Nothing I do, however, seems sucessful in giving my machine a domain name. Assume I'm logged in as root: # hostname changes the name sucessfully. # hostname now shows the new name. # exit logs root out Screen now shows: login: it looks like the name was changed sucessfully, but I can't ping the name from another machine and the DNS machine doesn't acknowledge the existence of on the network. If I reboot, the machine forgets the changes and reverts to , even though the actual LAN connection is still up and I can ping my own machine from a remote node using the actual IP address. Online help suggests that during boot process /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 and/or /etc/init.d/boot are invoked and that they read from the /etc/hostname file to determine the name of the host machine. The trouble is, none of these files exist on my machine at all - certainly not in those directory locations! I tried creating /etc/hostname as a text file with my machine's full domain name in it. Made no difference. Can anyone tell me what to do next? The DNS is a W2K system. I installed RedHat from a download onto a Pentium II, choosing the basic packages (sans GUI's). This is a fresh install with new partitions. Also, where do I start in configuring proxy servers for mail and internet access, please? (even a command to look up in the man pages would help). Thanks Andrew Gartside From psyex at darkerpower.com Fri Sep 14 16:16:51 2001 From: psyex at darkerpower.com (PsyeX) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:30 2003 Subject: Naming my computer on a LAN In-Reply-To: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C05B39E3@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> Message-ID: <000e01c13ce4$d872d960$0201a8c0@liquidforce.org> In RedHat 7.1, from the top of my head I think you have to edit /etc/hosts and add yourself to there and also /etc/sysconfig/network Hope this helps, Nathan. -----Original Message----- From: linux-admin@lists.samba.org [mailto:linux-admin@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Gartside, Andrew Sent: Friday, 14 September 2001 4:04 To: 'linux@lists.samba.org' Subject: Naming my computer on a LAN I'm using RedHat 7.1, purely in text mode (no GUI packages installed). I'm connected to a LAN, but have not configured proxy servers yet. Nevertheless, I can ping my machine using its IP address and can open shared files on the LAN. Nothing I do, however, seems sucessful in giving my machine a domain name. Assume I'm logged in as root: # hostname changes the name sucessfully. # hostname now shows the new name. # exit logs root out Screen now shows: login: it looks like the name was changed sucessfully, but I can't ping the name from another machine and the DNS machine doesn't acknowledge the existence of on the network. If I reboot, the machine forgets the changes and reverts to , even though the actual LAN connection is still up and I can ping my own machine from a remote node using the actual IP address. Online help suggests that during boot process /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 and/or /etc/init.d/boot are invoked and that they read from the /etc/hostname file to determine the name of the host machine. The trouble is, none of these files exist on my machine at all - certainly not in those directory locations! I tried creating /etc/hostname as a text file with my machine's full domain name in it. Made no difference. Can anyone tell me what to do next? The DNS is a W2K system. I installed RedHat from a download onto a Pentium II, choosing the basic packages (sans GUI's). This is a fresh install with new partitions. Also, where do I start in configuring proxy servers for mail and internet access, please? (even a command to look up in the man pages would help). Thanks Andrew Gartside From resolve at repose.cx Fri Sep 14 16:19:16 2001 From: resolve at repose.cx (Damien Elmes) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:30 2003 Subject: Naming my computer on a LAN In-Reply-To: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C05B39E3@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> References: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C05B39E3@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> Message-ID: <86d74u8fbv.fsf@reflex.repose.cx> "Gartside, Andrew" writes: > I'm using RedHat 7.1, purely in text mode (no GUI packages installed). I'm > connected to a LAN, but have not configured proxy servers yet. Nevertheless, > I can ping my machine using its IP address and can open shared files on the > LAN. Nothing I do, however, seems sucessful in giving my machine a domain > name. > Assume I'm logged in as root: > # hostname changes the name sucessfully. > # hostname now shows the new name. > # exit logs root out > Screen now shows: login: it looks like the name was changed > sucessfully, but I can't ping the name from another machine and the DNS > machine doesn't acknowledge the existence of on the network. > If I reboot, the machine forgets the changes and reverts to , > even though the actual LAN connection is still up and I can ping my own > machine from a remote node using the actual IP address. Edit /etc/hostname to change the host name persistantly. Then head over to www.linuxdoc.org and look under "LDP" -> "Linux Netword Administration Guide" (NAG). That will explain why a hostname is different to a DNS name, and a lot more to boot. Cheers! -- Damien Elmes resolve@repose.cx From jeremy at itassist.net.au Fri Sep 14 16:23:06 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:30 2003 Subject: Naming my computer on a LAN In-Reply-To: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C05B39E3@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> Message-ID: On 14 Sep, Gartside, Andrew wrote: > I'm using RedHat 7.1, purely in text mode (no GUI packages installed). > I'm connected to a LAN, but have not configured proxy servers yet. > Nevertheless, I can ping my machine using its IP address and can open > shared files on the LAN. Nothing I do, however, seems sucessful in > giving my machine a domain name. Assume I'm logged in as root: You need to change the configuration of the DNS server. > /etc/init.d/boot are invoked and that they read from the /etc/hostname > file to determine the name of the host machine. The trouble is, none > of these files exist on my machine at all - certainly not in those > directory locations! I tried creating /etc/hostname as a text file > with my machine's full domain name in it. Made no difference. Can > anyone tell me what to do next? The DNS is a W2K system. I installed > RedHat from a download onto a Pentium II, choosing the basic packages > (sans GUI's). This is a fresh install with new partitions. Also, where > do I start in configuring proxy servers for mail and internet access, > please? (even a command to look up in the man pages would help). > Thanks Andrew Gartside Go to /usr/share/doc/HOWTO and read the NET-3-HOWTO and the IP-MASQUERADE HOWTO and the DNS-HOWTO If you don't have the HOWTOs, install them. or go to www.linuxdoc.org -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I do not know what RedHat suggests, but one of their GUI admin tools will probably allow you to set it - linuxconf? (non-gui interface is available) > Also, where do I start in configuring proxy servers for mail and internet > access, please? (even a command to look up in the man pages would help). > Thanks You set up your internet proxies in each client. You can usually set the environment variable 'http_proxy', which a lot of clients honour. see bash(1) for details on environment variables for bash. Setting up mail.... - again, no idea how redhat suggest you do things; typically for sendmail, I set the "DS" field in sendmail.conf to the machine to be used as a relay. - receiving is done on a per-client basis. See fetchmail(1) for one example. > Andrew Gartside Yours, -- Peter Barker | N _--_|\ /---- Barham, Vic Programmer,Sysadmin,Geek | W + E / /\ pbarker@barker.dropbear.id.au | S \_,--?_*<-- Canberra You need a bigger hammer. | v [35S, 149E] "When used legally and in its intended fashion, the Acrobat eBook Reader secures eBooks purchased by locking the eBook to the hardware from which it was purchased." -- Adobe press release From andrew at andrew.net.au Sat Sep 15 15:56:55 2001 From: andrew at andrew.net.au (Andrew Pollock) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:30 2003 Subject: Motherboard IrDA adapters? Message-ID: <200109150556.f8F5utMS002773@daedalus.andrew.net.au> Hi, Anyone know where in Oz I can get a motherboard IrDA adapter to go from the IrDA port on modern motherboards to the outside world? Ideally I don't want something that goes external the way the ACTiSYS IR210L (http://www.actisys.com/act210.html) does. I've got a case that has a little window for IR in it already, I just need the sensor and a reasonably lengthed cable to go to the motherboard connector. Any advice appreciated. Andrew From mhummel at pcug.org.au Sun Sep 16 23:28:35 2001 From: mhummel at pcug.org.au (Mark Hummel) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:30 2003 Subject: XFree86 4.1.0, Radeon VE unresolved symbols In-Reply-To: <20010901051655.A8224@backdraft.amused.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 1 Sep 2001, Patrick Cole wrote: > Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 12:46:22AM +1000, Mark Hummel wrote: > > > Does anyone have any suggestions about how to resolve this problem? > > I've attached my XF86Config-4 from my machine at work which has a Radeon > VE. This problem may be the least of your worries though. Notice I'm > using the noaccel option, this is because there are problems with the > Radeon VE currently such that if you run it in accelereated mode under > certain hardware (namely AMD 760/761 chipsets) it locks the machine > up solid. See how you go though. > > -- > Patrick Cole - Debian Developer > - John Curtin, ANU > - Linux.com Helper > - PGP 1024R/60D74C7D C8E0BC7969BE7899AA0FEB16F84BFE5A > Thanks very much Patrick, I was able to make progress with this. Unfortunately, I seem to have run into the "monitor switching" problem, where the card switches the signal to the other outputs. I can't verify this however, since I don't have any adapters. It seems to be a bug with the drive, although I can't confirm this either, since I can't seem to find a list of xfree86 bugs for version 4.1.0. Mark. From felixk at webone.com.au Mon Sep 17 05:28:03 2001 From: felixk at webone.com.au (Felix Karpfen) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:30 2003 Subject: Advice on upgrading K56Flex modem Message-ID: <20010917052803.B11345@smtp.webone.com.au> I currently own a Maestro K56Flex modem, that has served me faithfully and long. It was my understanding that the main benefit of the more recent V90 modems is that they handle uploads at greater speeds - a non-issue on my box. However, I have recently been advised that an upgrade would be wise because V90 modems are intrinsically more stable. Is this the case? And if so, do I stick with the local supplier or is there something to be gained from looking further afield? Felix Karpfen -- Felix Karpfen felixk@webone.com.au Public Key 72FDF9DF (DH/DSA) Keyserver http://blackhole.pca.dfa.de From matthew at topic.com.au Mon Sep 17 09:25:52 2001 From: matthew at topic.com.au (Matthew Hawkins) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:30 2003 Subject: Advice on upgrading K56Flex modem In-Reply-To: <20010917052803.B11345@smtp.webone.com.au> References: <20010917052803.B11345@smtp.webone.com.au> Message-ID: <20010917092552.A13321@topic.com.au> On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Felix Karpfen wrote: > I currently own a Maestro K56Flex modem, that has served me faithfully > and long. It was my understanding that the main benefit of the more > recent V90 modems is that they handle uploads at greater speeds - a > non-issue on my box. I think that's an urban legend. It does have some basis in fact, though - before the V.90 standard, there were two competing standards; Lucent's k56flex and USR's x2. They could not talk to each other at more than 33.6kbps. So if you're dialling in to a x2 rack, you'll only be getting 33.6k rather than (close to) 56k. > However, I have recently been advised that an upgrade would be wise > because V90 modems are intrinsically more stable. Actually (from memory) 13 of the 15 technologies in the standard were taken from Lucent (ie, are your k56flex). What you will get though is interoperability with any other V.90 modem (ie, you can talk 56K) > Is this the case? And if so, do I stick with the local supplier or is > there something to be gained from looking further afield? It could be cheaper to contact the manufacturer of your modem (and go through the local supplier if you like...) and get the V.90 upgrade for your modem. Most modem manufacturers announced free upgrades (flash rom software update) to the V.90 standard if you purchased a k56flex or x2. Cheers, -- Matt From linux-boy at acenet.com.au Mon Sep 17 10:47:07 2001 From: linux-boy at acenet.com.au (Stephen Granger) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:31 2003 Subject: MRTG how safe is it? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010917104707.A656@stevelap> Shawn, MRTG Multi router traffic grapher was designed to monitor through-put on network devices, usually by making snmpget requests. I've just been trying to mangle it to make CPU load graphs, and others things. Go to the mrtg website, www.mrtg.org and take a look at some of the examples from other users, to get a feel for how people set mrtg up. Getting an initial setup is easy if you have an network device, eg a cisco router, that you can make snmp requests on, and just running the cfmaker (I think?) script. To get a bit more of a feel for things, I also had a look at the rrd tutorials. Even though rrd is almost a complete redesign of mrtg, it still gives you a background on how both mrtg and rrdtool work. Just on Simon's comment on why don't I just run mrtg locally, instead of returning input through a port. You can't always assume that I will be running mrtg, and a web server (apache of course) on the same machine I'll be monitoring. Therefore, I can monitor CPU load from a remote machine, and only have to run mrtg and apache on the one machine. Could someone who's in the know, make some comments on SNMP, security wise, and if they find it really useful for monitor network throughput. I've only just realised some of it's capabilities. I was previously making sure it was just another one of those redundant services, that comes along with your bloated modern linux distribution that left a port open and you had to turn off/remove. Also, is the SNMP broken in debian woody? I getting package broken when I try to apt get it... maybe I should look at the debian site first :) Steve On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 04:16:53PM +0800, Shawn Owens wrote: > Stephen, > > I've seen your post and was wondering if MRTG is capable of monitoring > through-put on an Ethernet interface (Linux of course), ISDN interface, and > HTTP hits/load? > > If this is possible, where can I find the Howto's to implement this on my > servers? > > Thanks for any help you might be able to provide. > > Shawn > From matthew at topic.com.au Mon Sep 17 16:11:51 2001 From: matthew at topic.com.au (Matthew Hawkins) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:31 2003 Subject: MRTG how safe is it? In-Reply-To: <20010917104707.A656@stevelap> References: <20010917104707.A656@stevelap> Message-ID: <20010917161151.B13321@topic.com.au> On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Stephen Granger wrote: > Even though rrd is almost a complete redesign of mrtg Bzzzt. It's a complete redesign of rateup, the default tool in mrtg for gathering the data. rateup was notoriously poor at scaling, among other things. -- Matt From pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au Mon Sep 17 17:14:06 2001 From: pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au (Peter Barker) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:31 2003 Subject: Apache and 408s Message-ID: All, How many sysadmins out there have been seeing lots of 408s in their error logs? e.g. zzz.32.124.98 - - [17/Sep/2001:17:13:59 +1000] "-" 408 - 408 is HTTPish for "request timed out" - seems like people are connecting and then not sending their request through. Anybody have any clues what it is? Seems rather odd for a portscan, since they should probably disconnect after scanning the port, and not time out. Thanks, -- Peter Barker | N _--_|\ /---- Barham, Vic Programmer,Sysadmin,Geek | W + E / /\ pbarker@barker.dropbear.id.au | S \_,--?_*<-- Canberra You need a bigger hammer. | v [35S, 149E] "When used legally and in its intended fashion, the Acrobat eBook Reader secures eBooks purchased by locking the eBook to the hardware from which it was purchased." -- Adobe press release From matthew at topic.com.au Mon Sep 17 17:18:50 2001 From: matthew at topic.com.au (Matthew Hawkins) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:31 2003 Subject: Apache and 408s In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010917171850.A99978@topic.com.au> On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Peter Barker wrote: > Anybody have any clues what it is? Seems rather odd for a > portscan, since they should probably disconnect after scanning the port, > and not time out. Not for a TCP SYN scan. You send the SYN, and never ACK the reply. The server sits there with an open socket till timeout. This is why its important in server applications to include the concept of a timeout because you don't want to leave yourself wide open for a fd DoS attack. -- Matt From psyex at darkerpower.com Mon Sep 17 17:18:41 2001 From: psyex at darkerpower.com (PsyeX) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:31 2003 Subject: Apache and 408s In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001001c13f49$05c89b00$0201a8c0@nathan> Try this just for fun... "cat access_log|grep NNNN" yup that will prolly display loads of garbage "cat access_log|grep NNNN|wc -l" that should tell you how many occurances of it I've found that 408's are caused by those icky machines infected with Codered scanning the internet for more machines to infect. - Nathan -----Original Message----- From: linux-admin@lists.samba.org [mailto:linux-admin@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Peter Barker Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:14 PM To: Lots of People Subject: Apache and 408s All, How many sysadmins out there have been seeing lots of 408s in their error logs? e.g. zzz.32.124.98 - - [17/Sep/2001:17:13:59 +1000] "-" 408 - 408 is HTTPish for "request timed out" - seems like people are connecting and then not sending their request through. Anybody have any clues what it is? Seems rather odd for a portscan, since they should probably disconnect after scanning the port, and not time out. Thanks, -- Peter Barker | N _--_|\ /---- Barham, Vic Programmer,Sysadmin,Geek | W + E / /\ pbarker@barker.dropbear.id.au | S \_,--?_*<-- Canberra You need a bigger hammer. | v [35S, 149E] "When used legally and in its intended fashion, the Acrobat eBook Reader secures eBooks purchased by locking the eBook to the hardware from which it was purchased." -- Adobe press release From pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au Mon Sep 17 17:24:36 2001 From: pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au (Peter Barker) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:31 2003 Subject: Apache and 408s In-Reply-To: <20010917171850.A99978@topic.com.au> Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Matthew Hawkins wrote: > On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Peter Barker wrote: > > Anybody have any clues what it is? Seems rather odd for a > > portscan, since they should probably disconnect after scanning the port, > > and not time out. > > Not for a TCP SYN scan. You send the SYN, and never ACK the reply. The > server sits there with an open socket till timeout. This is why its > important in server applications to include the concept of a timeout > because you don't want to leave yourself wide open for a fd DoS attack. The connection is not accepted until the third-part (ack) of the handshake is received. It would never reach apache if it was a syn-scan. Yours, -- Peter Barker | N _--_|\ /---- Barham, Vic Programmer,Sysadmin,Geek | W + E / /\ pbarker@barker.dropbear.id.au | S \_,--?_*<-- Canberra You need a bigger hammer. | v [35S, 149E] "When used legally and in its intended fashion, the Acrobat eBook Reader secures eBooks purchased by locking the eBook to the hardware from which it was purchased." -- Adobe press release From kleptog at svana.org Mon Sep 17 17:37:48 2001 From: kleptog at svana.org (Martijn van Oosterhout) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:31 2003 Subject: Apache and 408s In-Reply-To: <20010917171850.A99978@topic.com.au>; from matthew@topic.com.au on Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 05:18:50PM +1000 References: <20010917171850.A99978@topic.com.au> Message-ID: <20010917173748.B22703@svana.org> On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 05:18:50PM +1000, Matthew Hawkins wrote: > On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Peter Barker wrote: > > Anybody have any clues what it is? Seems rather odd for a > > portscan, since they should probably disconnect after scanning the port, > > and not time out. > > Not for a TCP SYN scan. You send the SYN, and never ACK the reply. The > server sits there with an open socket till timeout. This is why its > important in server applications to include the concept of a timeout > because you don't want to leave yourself wide open for a fd DoS attack. Surely the application never gets notified unless the server receives the ACK. So they would have to ACK the SYN-ACK and then go away, which seems strange for a port scanner. -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From kleptog at svana.org Mon Sep 17 17:44:06 2001 From: kleptog at svana.org (Martijn van Oosterhout) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:31 2003 Subject: Apache and 408s In-Reply-To: <001001c13f49$05c89b00$0201a8c0@nathan>; from psyex@darkerpower.com on Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 05:18:41PM +1000 References: <001001c13f49$05c89b00$0201a8c0@nathan> Message-ID: <20010917174406.C22703@svana.org> On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 05:18:41PM +1000, PsyeX wrote: > Try this just for fun... > > "cat access_log|grep NNNN" > > yup that will prolly display loads of garbage > > "cat access_log|grep NNNN|wc -l" > > that should tell you how many occurances of it > > I've found that 408's are caused by those icky machines infected with > Codered scanning the internet for more machines to infect. Actually, here we havn't received one of those since sometime in august. I think connect.com implemented some sort of filter so it never gets through. -- Martijn van Oosterhout http://svana.org/kleptog/ > Magnetism, electricity and motion are like a three-for-two special offer: > if you have two of them, the third one comes free. From pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au Mon Sep 17 17:49:23 2001 From: pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au (Peter Barker) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:31 2003 Subject: Apache and 408s In-Reply-To: <001001c13f49$05c89b00$0201a8c0@nathan> Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, PsyeX wrote: > I've found that 408's are caused by those icky machines infected with > Codered scanning the internet for more machines to infect. I was under the impression that Code Red machines never probed for machines to infect; they simply blindly attack machines on the net... at least, those are the variants I know of. It's just been suggested that the machines may be so loaded by the trillions of threads created by Code Red that they may be unable to actually push the request out! Could it be some sort of fingerprinting? I don't bother munging my HTTP-headers, but if different apaches (or web-servers in general) handle time-outs differently.... Yours, -- Peter Barker | N _--_|\ /---- Barham, Vic Programmer,Sysadmin,Geek | W + E / /\ pbarker@barker.dropbear.id.au | S \_,--?_*<-- Canberra You need a bigger hammer. | v [35S, 149E] "When used legally and in its intended fashion, the Acrobat eBook Reader secures eBooks purchased by locking the eBook to the hardware from which it was purchased." -- Adobe press release From rasjidw at bigpond.com Mon Sep 17 23:50:26 2001 From: rasjidw at bigpond.com (Rasjid) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:32 2003 Subject: Shared calendar / scheduling system Message-ID: <3BA5FFA1.7B293650@bigpond.com> Can anyone recommend a good group scheduling system that runs under Linux? Something to organise meetings etc. I've had a look at Evolution, but it looks like it is still in development and I was hoping for something a bit more server / client orientated. Cheers, Rasjid. From bhards at bigpond.net.au Tue Sep 18 07:07:26 2001 From: bhards at bigpond.net.au (Brad Hards) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:32 2003 Subject: Using apple monitor on i386 (Matrox G450)? Message-ID: <3BA6660E.B76C9D26@bigpond.net.au> G'day all, I am currently in the market for a new monitor (perhaps two, in time) for my workstation (dual celeron, with a Matrox G450 AGP card). Running dual head (with or without Xinerama), I get a bit of interaction between the monitors (both 17in CRT style). It looks a little like "swimming", and degaussing helps - a lot, but only for a short time. So I am thinking of getting a LCD screen to replace one of the CRTs. However I would really like to see the monitor before I buy it, and that is a bit tricky in Canberra at the moment, since no-one seems to stock high end monitors. Except for Apple. Has anyone tried a newish Apple monitor (especially the 17in "Studio Display" LCD) with a such a video card setup? I would also like to get the USB monitor control stuff set up. Does the cabling (as supplied with the monitor) provide seperate connectors for USB and video on the video card end? Brad From sjh at svana.org Tue Sep 18 09:30:19 2001 From: sjh at svana.org (Steven Hanley) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:32 2003 Subject: Using apple monitor on i386 (Matrox G450)? In-Reply-To: <3BA6660E.B76C9D26@bigpond.net.au> References: <3BA6660E.B76C9D26@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <20010918093019.B3912@shiva.marian> On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 07:07:26AM +1000, Brad Hards wrote: > I am currently in the market for a new monitor (perhaps two, in time) for my > workstation (dual celeron, with a Matrox G450 AGP card). > Running dual head (with or without Xinerama), I get a bit of interaction > between the monitors (both 17in CRT style). It looks a little like "swimming", > and degaussing helps - a lot, but only for a short time. > > So I am thinking of getting a LCD screen to replace one of the CRTs. However I > would really like to see the monitor before I buy it, and that is a bit tricky > in Canberra at the moment, since no-one seems to stock high end monitors. > Except for Apple. > > Has anyone tried a newish Apple monitor (especially the 17in "Studio Display" > LCD) with a such a video card setup? I would also like to get the USB monitor > control stuff set up. Does the cabling (as supplied with the monitor) provide > seperate connectors for USB and video on the video card end? all those really nice high end apple monitors connect to the new apple monitor connector on erecent g4's and similar computers, this is not vga and not the old connector found on old apples. There may be a dongle you can buy to connect it to a vga out, however that dongle would also need to provide the other features, such as usb or similar, or you would not be able to use them. See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From dcg at cea.com.au Tue Sep 18 09:05:19 2001 From: dcg at cea.com.au (Donovan Grant) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:32 2003 Subject: ps to pdf Message-ID: Can anyone advise on a good free linux prog for converting ps files to pdf format ? thanks ---------------------------------- Donovan Grant E-Mail: dcg@cea.com.au Date: 18-Sep-01 Time: 09:04:30 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- From matthew at topic.com.au Tue Sep 18 09:52:11 2001 From: matthew at topic.com.au (Matthew Hawkins) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:32 2003 Subject: ps to pdf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010918095211.A1537@topic.com.au> On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Donovan Grant wrote: > Can anyone advise on a good free linux prog for converting ps files to pdf > format ? ps2pdf It's part of ghostscript iirc. -- Matt From brettw at cray.com.au Tue Sep 18 09:51:45 2001 From: brettw at cray.com.au (Brett Worth) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:33 2003 Subject: ps to pdf In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Donovan Grant wrote: > Can anyone advise on a good free linux prog for converting ps files to pdf > format ? Donovan, I use "ps2pdf": [jade.517] ps2pdf junk.ps junk.pdf [jade.518] ls -l junk.ps junk.pdf -rw-rw-r-- 1 brettw brettw 47628 Sep 18 09:49 junk.pdf -rw-rw-r-- 1 brettw brettw 662415 Jun 20 13:48 junk.ps > Donovan Grant Brett From martin at meltin.net Tue Sep 18 10:03:54 2001 From: martin at meltin.net (Martin Schwenke) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:33 2003 Subject: MRTG how safe is it? In-Reply-To: <20010917104707.A656@stevelap> References: <20010917104707.A656@stevelap> Message-ID: <20010918000408.99A2B448E@lists.samba.org> >>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen Granger writes: Stephen> Just on Simon's comment on why don't I just run mrtg Stephen> locally, instead of returning input through a port. You Stephen> can't always assume that I will be running mrtg, and a Stephen> web server (apache of course) on the same machine I'll be Stephen> monitoring. Therefore, I can monitor CPU load from a Stephen> remote machine, and only have to run mrtg and apache on Stephen> the one machine. If there's a significant piece of network between the machine you're monitoring and where you want to view the MRTG graphs (for me, that means any piece of public network), I would run MRTG on the machine you're monitoring. You can tell MRTG to dump the graphs into a place where you can then fetch them via rsync (probably run an rsyncd, with a nice tight security configuration, supported by some firewall rules) and stick them into a web server's document tree. That way you can tie down SNMP, both in its configuration and via firewall rules. One of the big problems with SNMP is that, if you misconfigure it, people can do serious stuff to your machine. In my view, the configuration for rsyncd is much simpler, and the read-only mechanisms are much more intuitive. Stephen> Could someone who's in the know, make some comments on Stephen> SNMP, security wise, and if they find it really useful Stephen> for monitor network throughput. I've only just realised Stephen> some of it's capabilities. I was previously making sure Stephen> it was just another one of those redundant services, that Stephen> comes along with your bloated modern linux distribution Stephen> that left a port open and you had to turn off/remove. It is OK for an overview of traffic, but I don't think it's as useful as proper iptables-based IP accounting for the the details (and comparing what you think your usage is compare to what your ISP thinks). Stephen> Also, is the SNMP broken in debian woody? I getting Stephen> package broken when I try to apt get it... maybe I should Stephen> look at the debian site first :) Not sure about woody, but sid seems fine... peace & happiness, martin From andrew at andrew.net.au Tue Sep 18 10:08:03 2001 From: andrew at andrew.net.au (Andrew Pollock) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:33 2003 Subject: formail question Message-ID: <200109180008.f8I083tW022571@daedalus.andrew.net.au> Hey, Anyone know how to use formail to extract messages between two dates from a mail file? I've got a humungous mail file that I'd like to bust up by month. Andrew From terry.kearns at dha.gov.au Tue Sep 18 12:45:37 2001 From: terry.kearns at dha.gov.au (Kearns, Terry) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:33 2003 Subject: Shared calendar / scheduling system Message-ID: I believe there is some groupware stuff that runs on PHP/Apache do a search at freshmeat.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Rasjid [mailto:rasjidw@bigpond.com] > Sent: Monday, 17 September 2001 23:50 > To: CLUG > Subject: Shared calendar / scheduling system > > > Can anyone recommend a good group scheduling system that runs under > Linux? Something to organise meetings etc. I've had a look at > Evolution, but it looks like it is still in development and I > was hoping > for something a bit more server / client orientated. > > Cheers, > > Rasjid. > From matthew at topic.com.au Tue Sep 18 14:09:39 2001 From: matthew at topic.com.au (Matthew Hawkins) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:33 2003 Subject: Shared calendar / scheduling system In-Reply-To: <3BA5FFA1.7B293650@bigpond.com> References: <3BA5FFA1.7B293650@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <20010918140939.C582@topic.com.au> On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Rasjid wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good group scheduling system that runs under > Linux? Something to organise meetings etc. I've had a look at > Evolution, but it looks like it is still in development and I was hoping > for something a bit more server / client orientated. Netscape calendar (now iplanet something-or-other) works well, and you can synch with palmpilots etc. Another one is WorldPilot (which also includes email, todo lists, etc), it runs under Zope. I believe there's a PDA sync util for it also. -- Matt From Andrew.Gartside at dsto.defence.gov.au Tue Sep 18 16:52:21 2001 From: Andrew.Gartside at dsto.defence.gov.au (Gartside, Andrew) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:33 2003 Subject: Setting up local host Message-ID: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C05B39E7@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> I have followed the instructions from www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/nag2/x-087-2-iface.interface.html regarding setting up my RedHat 7.1 standalone machins as a localhost. I get to section 5.7.1 (the loopback interface) and have followed all instructions accurately. When I attempt to use the command: # route add 127.0.0.1 I get an error message: SIOCADDRT: No such device Now I can ping my own machine ( #ping localhost) but I can't telnet my own machine # telnet localhost Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused Have I missed a step? Can anyone suggest where I should look? My guess is I have to change some files to allow telnet connection to my machine. While I'm at it, I want to enable ftp too. Thanks Andrew Gartside From brettw at cray.com.au Tue Sep 18 17:06:15 2001 From: brettw at cray.com.au (Brett Worth) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:33 2003 Subject: Setting up local host In-Reply-To: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C05B39E7@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Gartside, Andrew wrote: > Now I can ping my own machine ( #ping localhost) but I can't telnet my own > machine > # telnet localhost > Trying 127.0.0.1... > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused > Have I missed a step? Can anyone suggest where I should look? My guess is I > have to change In /etc/xinetd.d there's a file called telnet. At the end there's a line that will say "disable = yes". Change this to no and do a "killall -USR1 xinetd". > want to enable ftp too. Same directory. Different file. > Andrew Gartside Brett /) _ _ _/_/ / / / _ _// /_)/ Hello fellow Linuxers. Its time again for me to bless you with one of my impossible Linux problems. My Redhat 7.1 system is in a constant state of flux. I do regular Ximian Gnome and fairly regular Kernel updates. A couple of days ago I discovered a problem that could have been induced by the last Ximian update and by any number of other RPM package installs I've done in the past week. Here's the symptom: If I select a virtual console using the F1..F6 keys the system will hang. The screen goes blank. Its not just the screen/keyboard that hangs either because the network dies and no further disk activity happens. When I shutdown normally and the system has to go through its powerdown sequence of putting up the [OK]'s in green its able to get to the character console fine. I'm running the nvidia version 1.0 drivers for the Geforce II video card I have but the vt's were working after I upgraded to that. Can anyone make a suggestion as to where I might start? There's zero in the logs once I reset and do an fsck. I can continue using the system as it is but there are times when nothing but a VT will do. -- Brett /) _ _ _/_/ / / / _ _// /_)/; from matthew@topic.com.au on Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 09:25:52AM +1000 References: <20010917052803.B11345@smtp.webone.com.au> <20010917092552.A13321@topic.com.au> Message-ID: <20010918064340.A2222@smtp.webone.com.au> Matthew Hawkins wrote: > On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Felix Karpfen wrote: > > I currently own a Maestro K56Flex modem, that has served me faithfully > > and long. It was my understanding that the main benefit of the more > > recent V90 modems is that they handle uploads at greater speeds - a > > non-issue on my box. > > I think that's an urban legend. It does have some basis in fact, > Firstly I would like to thank all who were good enough to reply to my query - both those who posted direct and also the for the above, very full explanation. All of it has been very helpful. As a follow-up to one of the direct answers, let me add that the suggestion to `upgrade' came from my new ISP - so perhaps there is a modem compatibility problem that is worth attending to. > What you will get though is interoperability with any other V.90 > modem (ie, you can talk 56K) I used to be able to talk 42K; since changing my ISP, I have, at my new ISP's suggestion, reduced this to 36K. That setting works about 90% of the time. It may be attributable to the differing quality of the Telstra connection, but I doubt it. > Most modem manufacturers announced free upgrades (flash rom software > update) to the V.90 standard if you purchased a k56flex or x2. Sounds as though another trip to Bungandore is on the cards. Again, many thanks Felix -- Felix Karpfen felixk@webone.com.au Public Key 72FDF9DF (DH/DSA) Keyserver http://blackhole.pca.dfa.de From stg121 at rsphysse.anu.edu.au Wed Sep 19 09:09:53 2001 From: stg121 at rsphysse.anu.edu.au (Stephen Gibson) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:33 2003 Subject: AMD 1.4GHz vs 1.2GHz performance Message-ID: <200109182309.AA26478@vuv3.anu.edu.au> Hi, I have two new AMD systems, 1.4GHz and 1.2GHz, purchased in June and July respectively. They have similar configurations (see below), but differ in CPU, motherboard and RAM. Both run RedHat 7.1 and 2.4.x kernels. I am puzzled that the 1.2GHz system can outperform the 1.4GHz system. For example, here is a benchmark test from the ccmath-2.2.0 package: 1.4GHz- $ccmath-2.2.0/benchmk/timmiv 500 Time Matrix Inverse dimension: 500 x 500 time= 2.800 sec. matrix inverted 1.2GHz- Time Matrix Inverse dimension: 500 x 500 time= 2.500 sec. matrix inverted My own codes reflect a similar discrepancy. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can improve the 1.4GHz system performance or is it simply a reflection of a poor motherboard/RAM from MSI? Note, the 1.4 system has 512Mb DDR RAM cf 256Mb for the 1.2 system (the applications are not memory intensive, but I read somewhere that 2.4.x kernels may be slower for systems with "large" memory). The default RH7.1 2.4.2 kernel appears to behave the same, with respect to execution speed, as the latest 2.4.9 kernel. I don't particularly want to mess with the hardware (swap CPUs, memory etc.), just tweak bios/setup parameters if possible. Thanks, Steve. 1.4GHz system------------------------------------------------------------ Motherboard: MSI K7T266-Pro CPU: AMD Althlon C series 1.4GHz RAM: 2x256MB Micron PC2100 CAS 2.5 DDR SDRAM HD: IBM 40GB 7200RPM ATA100 2MB IDE Video: ASUS V7100 32MB AGP MX GeForce2 $cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 6 model : 4 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor stepping : 4 cpu MHz : 1399.763 cache size : 256 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow bogomips : 2791.83 $cat /proc/meminfo total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 525651968 522522624 3129344 0 38252544 418361344 Swap: 1052794880 0 1052794880 MemTotal: 513332 kB MemFree: 3056 kB MemShared: 0 kB Buffers: 37356 kB Cached: 408556 kB SwapCached: 0 kB Active: 58280 kB Inact_dirty: 385960 kB Inact_clean: 1672 kB Inact_target: 3376 kB HighTotal: 0 kB HighFree: 0 kB LowTotal: 513332 kB LowFree: 3056 kB SwapTotal: 1028120 kB SwapFree: 1028120 kB $hdparm -Tt /dev/hda /dev/hda: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.61 seconds =209.84 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 1.72 seconds = 37.21 MB/sec 1.2GHz system-------------------------------------------------------------- Motherboard: Epox 8K7A+ CPU: AMD Althlon C series 1.2GHz RAM: 1x256MB Apacer PC266 DDR SDRAM HD: IBM 20GB 7200RPM ATA100 2MB IDE Video: Asus V7100M 32MB AGP Geforce2 MX 200 $cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 6 model : 4 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) processor stepping : 2 cpu MHz : 1196.614 cache size : 256 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow bogomips : 2385.51 $cat /proc/meminfo total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 261660672 238911488 22749184 0 90042368 25812992 Swap: 271425536 39129088 232296448 MemTotal: 255528 kB MemFree: 22216 kB MemShared: 0 kB Buffers: 87932 kB Cached: 25208 kB Active: 105568 kB Inact_dirty: 6656 kB Inact_clean: 916 kB Inact_target: 1248 kB HighTotal: 0 kB HighFree: 0 kB LowTotal: 255528 kB LowFree: 22216 kB SwapTotal: 265064 kB SwapFree: 226852 kB $ hdparm -Tt /dev/hda /dev/hda: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.61 seconds =209.84 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 3.41 seconds = 18.77 MB/sec From stg121 at rsphysse.anu.edu.au Wed Sep 19 09:20:02 2001 From: stg121 at rsphysse.anu.edu.au (Stephen Gibson) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:33 2003 Subject: A Tricky Problem In-Reply-To: from "Brett Worth" at Sep 18, 2001 09:18:54 PM Message-ID: <200109182320.AA26196@vuv3.anu.edu.au> FWIW Brett, I run the nVidia drivers, NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-1512.src.rpm/ NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-1512.i386.rpm for the GeForce2 MX chipset, under RH7.1. Gnome is the RH default. The console runs with the VGA framebuffer (vga=0x31a). I have no problems switching consoles. However, occasionally the system will hang when running wine and this appears to be X-induced. I haven't managed to get the console framebuffer to run under the riva driver (append="video:riva-1280x1024"), except for 640x480 resolution. Steve. From burn at goldweb.com.au Wed Sep 19 10:25:00 2001 From: burn at goldweb.com.au (Burn Alting) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:33 2003 Subject: gcc question ... Message-ID: <20010919002318.CB4692B86A@aramis.goldweb.com.au> Hi Peoples, Just a quick question, is there a warning option to gcc which will warn of mixed mode expressions. That is an expression that mixes chars with longs or longs with long longs etc. If not, does anyone know of a C parser that might do such checks? Thanks in advance Burn Alting burn@goldweb.com.au From matthew at topic.com.au Wed Sep 19 10:39:41 2001 From: matthew at topic.com.au (Matthew Hawkins) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:34 2003 Subject: AMD 1.4GHz vs 1.2GHz performance In-Reply-To: <200109182309.AA26478@vuv3.anu.edu.au> References: <200109182309.AA26478@vuv3.anu.edu.au> Message-ID: <20010919103940.A2233@topic.com.au> On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Stephen Gibson wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can improve the 1.4GHz system > performance or is it simply a reflection of a poor motherboard/RAM from MSI? > Note, the 1.4 system has 512Mb DDR RAM cf 256Mb for the 1.2 system > (the applications are not memory intensive, but I read somewhere > that 2.4.x kernels may be slower for systems with "large" memory). "Large" generally means >1Gb (where you have to compile HIGHMEM support into the kernel). Two things I would look at; first is the 1.4Ghz system clocked in the bios to 1.4Ghz? The second thing I would look at is if the bus speed is set to 266Mhz on both (but particularly the 1.4Ghz system) Cheers, -- Matt From pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au Wed Sep 19 12:00:04 2001 From: pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au (Peter Barker) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:34 2003 Subject: Follow up to Apache's 408s Message-ID: All, Looks like we've got another windows virus to contend with. I wonder if those poor bastards who have to administer NT/2000 etc have patched their boxes against all of these attacks. See article off slashdot. One of the comments answered my 408 queries from the otehr day. Apparently the "Sadmind" virus. Yours, -- Peter Barker | N _--_|\ /---- Barham, Vic Programmer,Sysadmin,Geek | W + E / /\ pbarker@barker.dropbear.id.au | S \_,--?_*<-- Canberra You need a bigger hammer. | v [35S, 149E] "When used legally and in its intended fashion, the Acrobat eBook Reader secures eBooks purchased by locking the eBook to the hardware from which it was purchased." -- Adobe press release From Andrew.Gartside at dsto.defence.gov.au Wed Sep 19 15:43:34 2001 From: Andrew.Gartside at dsto.defence.gov.au (Gartside, Andrew) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:34 2003 Subject: I want to disable "put" command on anonymous ftp Message-ID: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C05B39E9@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> I have set up my machine to do anonymous ftp. I would like to disable the "put" function for security. None of the copious documentation I've read mentions how to do this, does anyone know, please? Linux RedHat 7.1 Andrew Gartside From andrew at bishop.dropbear.id.au Wed Sep 19 16:24:29 2001 From: andrew at bishop.dropbear.id.au (andrew@bishop.dropbear.id.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:34 2003 Subject: I want to disable "put" command on anonymous ftp In-Reply-To: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C05B39E9@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Gartside, Andrew wrote: > I have set up my machine to do anonymous ftp. I would like to disable the > "put" function > for security. None of the copious documentation I've read mentions how to do > this, does > anyone know, please? Just make sure all the directories accessable through anon ftp are not writable. e.g. chmod -R go-w /var/ftp Andrew From matthew at topic.com.au Wed Sep 19 17:06:34 2001 From: matthew at topic.com.au (Matthew Hawkins) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:34 2003 Subject: I want to disable "put" command on anonymous ftp In-Reply-To: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C05B39E9@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> References: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C05B39E9@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> Message-ID: <20010919170634.D11252@topic.com.au> On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Gartside, Andrew wrote: > I have set up my machine to do anonymous ftp. I would like to disable the > "put" function > for security. None of the copious documentation I've read mentions how to do > this, does > anyone know, please? It depends on which FTP server you have. On all, you can simply disable write privileges to the directory and files within it for whatever user runs the FTP server. wu-ftpd from memory had an ACL system that let you specify permissions the ftp server would adhere to. proftpd lets you enable/disable individual FTP commands like PUT and WRITE on a per-directory basis. -- Matt From psyex at darkerpower.com Wed Sep 19 17:20:08 2001 From: psyex at darkerpower.com (PsyeX) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:34 2003 Subject: I want to disable "put" command on anonymous ftp In-Reply-To: <378C31E229CFD411B48B009027EE73C05B39E9@fhpex002.dsto.defence.gov.au> Message-ID: <000301c140db$84c6c880$0201a8c0@nathan> Try ProFTPd Its great, and you can disable commands like that http://www.proftpd.org - Nathan -----Original Message----- From: linux-admin@lists.samba.org [mailto:linux-admin@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Gartside, Andrew Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 3:44 PM To: 'linux@samba.org' Subject: I want to disable "put" command on anonymous ftp I have set up my machine to do anonymous ftp. I would like to disable the "put" function for security. None of the copious documentation I've read mentions how to do this, does anyone know, please? Linux RedHat 7.1 Andrew Gartside From brettw at cray.com.au Wed Sep 19 22:41:02 2001 From: brettw at cray.com.au (Brett Worth) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:34 2003 Subject: gcc question ... In-Reply-To: <20010919002318.CB4692B86A@aramis.goldweb.com.au> Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Burn Alting wrote: > Just a quick question, is there a warning option to gcc which will warn of > mixed mode expressions. That is an expression that mixes chars with longs or > longs with long longs etc. > > If not, does anyone know of a C parser that might do such checks? Burn, Have you tried lclint? $ cat m.c int main() { int i=1, j; char c='a'; j = i + c; exit(0); } $ lclint m.c LCLint 2.5r --- 20 August 2001 m.c: (in function main) m.c:6:6: Incompatible types for + (int, char): i + c To make char and int types equivalent, use +charint. Finished LCLint checking --- 1 code error found > Burn Alting Brett /) _ _ _/_/ / / / _ _// /_)/; from andrew@andrew.net.au on Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 10:08:03AM +1000 References: <200109180008.f8I083tW022571@daedalus.andrew.net.au> Message-ID: <20010919080143.B5984@smtp.webone.com.au> Andrew Pollock wrote: > Hey, > > Anyone know how to use formail to extract messages between two dates from a mail > file? Another possible approach that may deliver the goods when used by someone who knows more about programming than I do: mboxgrep-0.5.2. I no longer have the URL, but it should be easy to find. Felix Karpfen -- Felix Karpfen felixk@webone.com.au Public Key 72FDF9DF (DH/DSA) Keyserver http://blackhole.pca.dfa.de From grant at gmorph.com Thu Sep 20 16:52:59 2001 From: grant at gmorph.com (Grant Morphett) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:34 2003 Subject: Network cables Message-ID: <20010920165259.48af450a.grant@gmorph.com> Does anyone know where you can get those light weight ethernet cables that I've only ever seen with 3Com PCMCIA network cards? They are just so small and light - very handy for laptop luggers. cheers Grant Morphett GMORPH CONSULTANTS Pty Ltd - Solutions Outside the Square tel : +61 (0) 411 271271 fax : +1 309 4164790 From claudio at coastalcom.com.au Sat Sep 22 09:43:25 2001 From: claudio at coastalcom.com.au (Claudio) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:34 2003 Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <002101c142f7$37db9fa0$66360c0a@st02> I install red hat 7.1 and configure samba as I read on PC World Minibook.... I have to tell you that I have a linux server based on red hat 6.2 and I had no problem ... this new installation on red hat 7.1 it dosn't want to let win 98 browes the linux workstation.. the message I receive is "The computer or sharename could not be found.Make sure you typed it correctly and try again " I called Linux workst. ST_05 I can see the Icon on the windows network ... I setup smb.conf as " security = share" can you please tell me where I can find a doc about this new samba ?? or what is new in the setup Tks Claudio -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From eyal at eyal.emu.id.au Fri Sep 21 22:17:05 2001 From: eyal at eyal.emu.id.au (Eyal Lebedinsky) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:34 2003 Subject: How to remove BIOS password? Message-ID: <3BAB2FC1.F61C0549@eyal.emu.id.au> I have here a 486 machine, just got it for a fw. It has a BIOS password so I cannot remove the HD definition and it will not boot without manual intervention. I want to clear the password. Tried to remove the battery for a few hours, no go. No manual available. Checked the silkscreen carefully and could not see an obvious jumper. The mobo is a VL/I-486SV2G-GX4. I can swear it is an ASUS but it does not say so. -- Eyal Lebedinsky (eyal@eyal.emu.id.au) From psyex at myirc.net Fri Sep 21 22:26:11 2001 From: psyex at myirc.net (PsyeX) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:35 2003 Subject: How to remove BIOS password? In-Reply-To: <3BAB2FC1.F61C0549@eyal.emu.id.au> Message-ID: <000801c14298$9aa01850$0201a8c0@nathan> If you can boot the machine to DOS, you can run microsoft's 'debug' where I'm pretty sure you can search for and find the CMOS data, and fill it with 00's, which will invalidate it and hopefully the BIOS will display a message such as 'Invalid CMOS Data' Hope this helps, Nathan. -----Original Message----- From: linux-admin@lists.samba.org [mailto:linux-admin@lists.samba.org] On Behalf Of Eyal Lebedinsky Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 10:17 PM To: list, CLUG Subject: How to remove BIOS password? I have here a 486 machine, just got it for a fw. It has a BIOS password so I cannot remove the HD definition and it will not boot without manual intervention. I want to clear the password. Tried to remove the battery for a few hours, no go. No manual available. Checked the silkscreen carefully and could not see an obvious jumper. The mobo is a VL/I-486SV2G-GX4. I can swear it is an ASUS but it does not say so. -- Eyal Lebedinsky (eyal@eyal.emu.id.au) From rasjidw at bigpond.com Fri Sep 21 23:00:55 2001 From: rasjidw at bigpond.com (Rasjid) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:35 2003 Subject: Samba configuration References: <002101c142f7$37db9fa0$66360c0a@st02> Message-ID: <3BAB3A07.3900183@bigpond.com> I would suggest either reading man samba and all the man pages that it refers to, or take the easy way out and use swat. (You will need to enable swat in /etc/xinetd.d/swat.) The only non-default setting I used with SWAT `globals' was to make sure that `encrypt passwords' is set to yes. The default swat security setting is user and that has worked well for me. See the help on security that comes with the SWAT interface. With encrypted passwords (which according to the SWAT help file is required for Windows 98 clients unless you edit the Windows registry) you will need to add each samba user and enter their passwords. This can be done using swat or smbpasswd from a bash prompt. You might also want to check the firewall settings, but these are probably okay if you can see the linux box in the network neighbourhood. Rasjid. > Claudio wrote: > > I install red hat 7.1 and configure samba as I read on PC World > Minibook.... > > I have to tell you that I have a linux server based on red hat 6.2 and > I had no problem ... > > this new installation on red hat 7.1 it dosn't want to let win 98 > browes the linux workstation.. > > the message I receive is "The computer or sharename could not be > found.Make sure you typed it correctly and try again " > > I called Linux workst. ST_05 I can see the Icon on the windows > network ... > I setup smb.conf as " security = share" > > can you please tell me where I can find a doc about this new samba ?? > or what is new in the setup > > Tks Claudio > > > > > From richard_c at tpg.com.au Fri Sep 21 23:24:36 2001 From: richard_c at tpg.com.au (Richard Cottrill) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:35 2003 Subject: How to remove BIOS password? In-Reply-To: <3BAB2FC1.F61C0549@eyal.emu.id.au> Message-ID: The board does sound like an ASUS board; it's even listed on their web site: http://www.asus.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/486/ If you follow through the links it says there's BIOS upgrade available (and you'll need an EPROM writer to use it). There are people on this list who can do the requisite chip burning though. I couldn't find anything about passwords though. If you're really pushed then I may have a manual for a similar board (but I'll need somebody to get it for me and that'll take a bit of organising). Richard -----Original Message----- From: linux-admin@lists.samba.org [mailto:linux-admin@lists.samba.org]On Behalf Of Eyal Lebedinsky Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 1:17 PM To: list, CLUG Subject: How to remove BIOS password? I have here a 486 machine, just got it for a fw. It has a BIOS password so I cannot remove the HD definition and it will not boot without manual intervention. I want to clear the password. Tried to remove the battery for a few hours, no go. No manual available. Checked the silkscreen carefully and could not see an obvious jumper. The mobo is a VL/I-486SV2G-GX4. I can swear it is an ASUS but it does not say so. -- Eyal Lebedinsky (eyal@eyal.emu.id.au) From eyal at eyal.emu.id.au Fri Sep 21 23:34:23 2001 From: eyal at eyal.emu.id.au (Eyal Lebedinsky) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:35 2003 Subject: How to remove BIOS password? References: Message-ID: <3BAB41DF.7BBA2314@eyal.emu.id.au> Richard Cottrill wrote: > > The board does sound like an ASUS board; it's even listed on their web site: > http://www.asus.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/486/ Yes, I did look it up. > If you follow through the links it says there's BIOS upgrade available (and > you'll need an EPROM writer to use it). There are people on this list who > can do the requisite chip burning though. this would be the last resort. > I couldn't find anything about passwords though. If you're really pushed > then I may have a manual for a similar board (but I'll need somebody to get > it for me and that'll take a bit of organising). I found some reference to 1) known backdoor passwords. I will try these 2) password crackers, will try them too -- Eyal Lebedinsky (eyal@eyal.emu.id.au) From davey at doa.org Sat Sep 22 00:58:17 2001 From: davey at doa.org (David Murn) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:35 2003 Subject: How to remove BIOS password? In-Reply-To: <000801c14298$9aa01850$0201a8c0@nathan> Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, PsyeX wrote: > If you can boot the machine to DOS, you can run microsoft's 'debug' > where I'm pretty sure you can search for and find the CMOS data, and > fill it with 00's, which will invalidate it and hopefully the BIOS will > display a message such as 'Invalid CMOS Data' Better than this, if you can get to Linux, you've got a program called cmostool. This gives you access to the cmos ram and i think can even decode password for you. Not sure though. If nothing else, it also comes with good cmos documentation. Davey From rasjidw at bigpond.com Sat Sep 22 16:09:28 2001 From: rasjidw at bigpond.com (Rasjid) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:35 2003 Subject: Changing a process' tty? Message-ID: <3BAC2B18.1CC962F9@bigpond.com> Just a wild stab in the dark here. Is is possible to move a process from one tty to another? In particular, is it possible to move a process started on an xterm (with TTY pts/2 say) to a console (tty1 say)? This would be really useful, as sometimes I start ncftp or the like in an xterm, and then decide I want to restart X. Cheers, Rasjid. From z at amused.net Sat Sep 22 17:58:16 2001 From: z at amused.net (Patrick Cole) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:35 2003 Subject: Apache and 408s In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010922175816.B925@backdraft.amused.net> Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 05:14:06PM +1000, Peter Barker wrote: > How many sysadmins out there have been seeing lots of 408s in > their error logs? e.g. > > zzz.32.124.98 - - [17/Sep/2001:17:13:59 +1000] "-" 408 - > > 408 is HTTPish for "request timed out" - seems like people are > connecting and then not sending their request through. > > Anybody have any clues what it is? Seems rather odd for a > portscan, since they should probably disconnect after scanning the port, > and not time out. This newest derivation of the Code red virus as well as directing attacks to machines close by, and random hosts, also opens connections to port 80 and keeps them open, sending either garble or no data at all, hence causing the web server to eventually hit its MaxClients limit and stop accepting connections. I got around this by setting the 'Timeout' value in httpd.conf to 3 seconds, but since I havn't been able to establish a pattern to the requests there is really no way to filter them. As far as the attacks go, I've written a netfilter user space queueing daemon that scans the data of the packets it receives and drops them if they are web requests pertaining to the multitude of IIS/etc issues the virus tries to exploit. If anyone would like a copy let me know. -- Patrick Cole - Debian Developer - John Curtin, ANU - Linear-G Network Solutions - PGP 1024R/60D74C7D C8E0BC7969BE7899AA0FEB16F84BFE5A From simon at sibern.com.au Sat Sep 22 21:25:01 2001 From: simon at sibern.com.au (Simon Haddon) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:35 2003 Subject: How to remove BIOS password? In-Reply-To: <000801c14298$9aa01850$0201a8c0@nathan> References: <000801c14298$9aa01850$0201a8c0@nathan> Message-ID: <20010922.11250160@magnum.sibern.com.au> I would say the easiest thing to do would be to remove the battery. This will set everything back to standard. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 21/09/01, 10:26:11 PM, "PsyeX" wrote regarding RE: How to remove BIOS password?: > If you can boot the machine to DOS, you can run microsoft's 'debug' > where I'm pretty sure you can search for and find the CMOS data, and > fill it with 00's, which will invalidate it and hopefully the BIOS will > display a message such as 'Invalid CMOS Data' > Hope this helps, > Nathan. > -----Original Message----- > From: linux-admin@lists.samba.org [mailto:linux-admin@lists.samba.org] > On Behalf Of Eyal Lebedinsky > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 10:17 PM > To: list, CLUG > Subject: How to remove BIOS password? > I have here a 486 machine, just got it for a fw. It has a BIOS password > so I cannot remove the HD definition and it will not boot without manual > intervention. > I want to clear the password. Tried to remove the battery for a few > hours, > no go. > No manual available. Checked the silkscreen carefully and could not see > an obvious jumper. > The mobo is a VL/I-486SV2G-GX4. I can swear it is an ASUS but it does > not say so. > -- > Eyal Lebedinsky (eyal@eyal.emu.id.au) From Robert.Edwards at anu.edu.au Sat Sep 22 21:40:15 2001 From: Robert.Edwards at anu.edu.au (Bob Edwards) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:35 2003 Subject: How to remove BIOS password? References: <000801c14298$9aa01850$0201a8c0@nathan> <20010922.11250160@magnum.sibern.com.au> Message-ID: <3BAC789F.E26A81B0@anu.edu.au> How about removing the battery and shorting out the contacts of the battery holder for a few seconds to discharge any remnant charge in the capacitors feeding the CMOS RAM device? This may not work on some more modern motherboards that actually use Flash ROM instead of RAM for storing BIOS parameters. In this case, the battery is only there to power the "Real Time" (or hardware) clock. Resetting the Flash ROM is somewhat harder than pulling a battery out. Cheers, Bob Edwards. From rasjidw at bigpond.com Sat Sep 22 23:19:58 2001 From: rasjidw at bigpond.com (Rasjid) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:35 2003 Subject: Changing a process' tty? References: <3BAC2B18.1CC962F9@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <3BAC8FFE.B89BE627@bigpond.com> Rasjid wrote: > > Just a wild stab in the dark here. > > Is is possible to move a process from one tty to another? In > particular, is it possible to move a process started on an xterm (with > TTY pts/2 say) to a console (tty1 say)? > > This would be really useful, as sometimes I start ncftp or the like in > an xterm, and then decide I want to restart X. > > Cheers, > > Rasjid. I had had a few suggestions to use screen. It seems to do what I want. I have put the following lines at the end of my .bashrc file: # ----------- if ( ps -p $PPID -o cmd | grep SCREEN &> /dev/null ) then echo "Bash session started by SCREEN" echo "" else screen fi # ----------- This way I don't have to remember to start screen, and it avoids any infinite loops. Can anyone foresee any problem with this? Rasjid. From Dale.Shaw at praxa.com.au Sat Sep 22 23:21:34 2001 From: Dale.Shaw at praxa.com.au (Shaw, Dale) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:35 2003 Subject: How to remove BIOS password? Message-ID: FWIW, here are the debug commands: o 70,2E o 71,0 o 70,2F o 71,0 That resets the checksum to 0 (it is stored at 2E/2F). Next time you reboot you'll get a checksum error and you'll have to re-enter the BIOS config details. > -----Original Message----- > From: PsyeX [mailto:psyex@myirc.net] > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 10:26 PM > To: 'Eyal Lebedinsky'; 'list, CLUG' > Subject: RE: How to remove BIOS password? > > > If you can boot the machine to DOS, you can run microsoft's 'debug' > where I'm pretty sure you can search for and find the CMOS data, and > fill it with 00's, which will invalidate it and hopefully the > BIOS will > display a message such as 'Invalid CMOS Data' > > Hope this helps, > > Nathan. > > -----Original Message----- > From: linux-admin@lists.samba.org [mailto:linux-admin@lists.samba.org] > On Behalf Of Eyal Lebedinsky > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 10:17 PM > To: list, CLUG > Subject: How to remove BIOS password? > > I have here a 486 machine, just got it for a fw. It has a > BIOS password > so I cannot remove the HD definition and it will not boot > without manual > intervention. > > I want to clear the password. Tried to remove the battery for a few > hours, > no go. > > No manual available. Checked the silkscreen carefully and > could not see > an obvious jumper. > > The mobo is a VL/I-486SV2G-GX4. I can swear it is an ASUS but it does > not say so. From eyal at eyal.emu.id.au Sat Sep 22 23:22:20 2001 From: eyal at eyal.emu.id.au (Eyal Lebedinsky) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:35 2003 Subject: How to remove BIOS password? References: <000801c14298$9aa01850$0201a8c0@nathan> <20010922.11250160@magnum.sibern.com.au> <3BAC789F.E26A81B0@anu.edu.au> Message-ID: <3BAC908C.A00CA0C6@eyal.emu.id.au> Bob Edwards wrote: > > How about removing the battery and shorting out the contacts of the > battery holder for a few seconds to discharge any remnant charge in the > capacitors feeding the CMOS RAM device? Sorry, battery tricks did not work. I grabbed a backdoor BIOS password list and the fourth one got me in! Dog bless the 'net. http://habitantes.elsitio.com/digisign/biospasswdremoval.html http://www.techtv.com/print/story/0,23102,3339616,00.html http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000451.htm -- Eyal Lebedinsky (eyal@eyal.emu.id.au) From eyal at eyal.emu.id.au Sat Sep 22 23:48:22 2001 From: eyal at eyal.emu.id.au (Eyal Lebedinsky) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:36 2003 Subject: How to remove BIOS password? References: Message-ID: <3BAC96A6.C4376305@eyal.emu.id.au> "Shaw, Dale" wrote: > > FWIW, here are the debug commands: > > o 70,2E > o 71,0 > o 70,2F > o 71,0 > > That resets the checksum to 0 (it is stored at 2E/2F). Next time you reboot > you'll get a checksum error and you'll have to re-enter the BIOS config > details. I managed to get around the problem (see my other message). Nevertheless, are you sure this will write to the flash memory, and not to the RAM shadow? -- Eyal Lebedinsky (eyal@eyal.emu.id.au) From travis_ecclestone at bigpond.com Sun Sep 23 01:44:54 2001 From: travis_ecclestone at bigpond.com (Travis Ecclestone) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:36 2003 Subject: Dual boot Message-ID: <001e01c1437d$8b2deba0$d1fa36cb@tao> I am like red raw to linux. I have heard a lot of good stuff about it and thoguht I would check it out. I am abotu to reinstall my system and figured I would set up a linux/win98se dual boot. Do I have to partition them seperately or can I just install one and then the other. I have heard you don't have to partition the drive but every literature I read says to partition it for the dual boot, one for linux and one for 98 se. Thanks Travis -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From kylixau at yahoo.com.au Sun Sep 23 11:02:08 2001 From: kylixau at yahoo.com.au (=?iso-8859-1?q?Wayne=20Vovil?=) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:36 2003 Subject: Dual boot In-Reply-To: <001e01c1437d$8b2deba0$d1fa36cb@tao> Message-ID: <20010923010208.54075.qmail@web13204.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Travis Yes, it is necessary to partition your hadr drive. Preferably, a partition for W98, a partition (small one) for linux SWAP, and at least one other partition for linux. You may use more than one for linux. I use one for swap, one for linux (all but /home), and one for linux (/home - where I put all my user stuff - data etc that doen't need upgrading). Cheers Wayne --- Travis Ecclestone wrote: > I am like red raw to linux. I have heard a lot of > good stuff about it and thoguht I would check it > out. I am abotu to reinstall my system and figured > I would set up a linux/win98se dual boot. Do I > have to partition them seperately or can I just > install one and then the other. I have heard you > don't have to partition the drive but every > literature I read says to partition it for the dual > boot, one for linux and one for 98 se. > > Thanks > Travis > ===== -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... http://travel.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Travel - Got Itchy feet? Get inspired! From resolve at repose.cx Sun Sep 23 16:15:26 2001 From: resolve at repose.cx (Damien Elmes) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:36 2003 Subject: Dual boot In-Reply-To: <20010923010208.54075.qmail@web13204.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010923010208.54075.qmail@web13204.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <86y9n6zb41.fsf@reflex.repose.cx> Wayne Vovil writes: > Hi Travis > > Yes, it is necessary to partition your hadr drive. > > Preferably, a partition for W98, a partition (small > one) for linux SWAP, and at least one other partition > for linux. You may use more than one for linux. I use > one for swap, one for linux (all but /home), and one > for linux (/home - where I put all my user stuff - > data etc that doen't need upgrading). Actually, there is a filesystem called "UMSDOS" which can store linux files on top of a MS-DOS filesystem, so technically it's not necessary. He'll save himself lots of trouble if he does allocate a seperate partition, though. Cheers! -- Damien Elmes resolve@repose.cx From jeremy at itassist.net.au Sun Sep 23 16:21:47 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:36 2003 Subject: Dual boot In-Reply-To: <86y9n6zb41.fsf@reflex.repose.cx> Message-ID: On 23 Sep, Damien Elmes wrote: > Wayne Vovil writes: > >> Hi Travis >> >> Yes, it is necessary to partition your hadr drive. >> >> Preferably, a partition for W98, a partition (small >> one) for linux SWAP, and at least one other partition >> for linux. You may use more than one for linux. I use >> one for swap, one for linux (all but /home), and one >> for linux (/home - where I put all my user stuff - >> data etc that doen't need upgrading). > > Actually, there is a filesystem called "UMSDOS" which can store linux > files on top of a MS-DOS filesystem, so technically it's not > necessary. He'll save himself lots of trouble if he does allocate a > seperate partition, though. > > Cheers! > Dragon Linux and Phat Linux have the ability to work out of disc images stored as MS-DOS files. Quite a cute trick, but only works under 95/98 -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I did it on a friends computer the other day. It works okay, but you are limited to an approximately 2GB install. You have to boot from a floppy - if you lose the floppy you lose your Linux system. :-| I think it is only useful for someone just wanting to have a quick look at Linux and remove it from their system. If you are about to re-install Windows 98 anyway, then there is little to gain and much to lose by doing a partionless install. Backup all your windows files, use dos fdisk to remove your current partition, give Windows as much as it needs [as little as possible ;-) although perhaps I'm biased] and leave the rest unallocated. Reinstall Windows 98 and restore your files. Then install Linux. I still have a dual boot system, but I never seem to boot Windows nowdays (I got Baldur's Gate II to work under VMWare 2). As soon as I can get the money together for VMWare 3 and a bit more memory, my system will boot into Linux only. Cheers, Rasjid. From plm at pcug.org.au Sun Sep 23 19:53:07 2001 From: plm at pcug.org.au (Paul Matthews) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:36 2003 Subject: CLUG 27th Sept 2001 Message-ID: <3BADB103.C4CED591@pcug.org.au> The Sept CLUG is next Thursday night (the 27rd) at 7pm in room N101, on the ground floor of the Computer Science and Information Technology building at the ANU. As always, don't forget about the pizza, so come hungry and bring about $6 to cover the cost of your share if you want some. See http://clug.org.au/ for more directions and a map. From Robert.Edwards at anu.edu.au Sun Sep 23 22:16:33 2001 From: Robert.Edwards at anu.edu.au (Bob Edwards) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:36 2003 Subject: Dual boot References: <001e01c1437d$8b2deba0$d1fa36cb@tao> Message-ID: <3BADD2A1.EB6BC80B@anu.edu.au> Travis, If you already have 'doze installed, you can use "fips" (comes with most Linux distro's) to reduce the size of your 'doze partition (use disk defragmentation first!). Then install Linux and if you are using a distro like RedHat or Mandrake or Suse, it will help you to repartition the rest of your disk to best utilise the disk space for Linux. Cheers, Bob Edwards. From travis_ecclestone at bigpond.com Sun Sep 23 23:17:44 2001 From: travis_ecclestone at bigpond.com (Travis Ecclestone) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:37 2003 Subject: Dual boot question Message-ID: <002401c14432$669b6c80$4cf936cb@tao> Thanks to all those how replied. It was pretty much what I expected but I thought I would ask. I am going to run Mandrake linux (startign witht the poscket book) and later I want to buy the Mandrake Power pack but that will come later. Thanks again Travis -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From resolve at repose.cx Mon Sep 24 00:03:34 2001 From: resolve at repose.cx (Damien Elmes) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:37 2003 Subject: Dual boot question In-Reply-To: <002401c14432$669b6c80$4cf936cb@tao> References: <002401c14432$669b6c80$4cf936cb@tao> Message-ID: <86adzmgg21.fsf@reflex.repose.cx> "Travis Ecclestone" writes: > Thanks to all those how replied. It was pretty much what I expected > but I thought I would ask. I am going to run Mandrake linux > (startign witht the poscket book) and later I want to buy the > Mandrake Power pack but that will come later. One thing you learn after moving away from the commercial world for a while, is that the best things in life are often free :-) Cheers! -- Damien Elmes resolve@repose.cx From dbenesch at worldnet.att.net Mon Sep 24 05:30:47 2001 From: dbenesch at worldnet.att.net (Don Benesch) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:37 2003 Subject: Dual boot In-Reply-To: <3BADD2A1.EB6BC80B@anu.edu.au> References: <001e01c1437d$8b2deba0$d1fa36cb@tao> <3BADD2A1.EB6BC80B@anu.edu.au> Message-ID: <200109231430470980.01257B85@mailhost.worldnet.att.net> Also I've noticed too that Partition Magic will create a Linux partition and will do partition resizing. Don *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 9/23/01 at 10:16 PM Bob Edwards wrote: >Travis, > >If you already have 'doze installed, you can use "fips" (comes with >most Linux distro's) to reduce the size of your 'doze partition >(use disk defragmentation first!). Then install Linux and if you >are using a distro like RedHat or Mandrake or Suse, it will help >you to repartition the rest of your disk to best utilise the disk >space for Linux. > >Cheers, > >Bob Edwards. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Don Benesch.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 243 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010923/dba1328c/DonBenesch.vcf From Antti.Roppola at brs.gov.au Mon Sep 24 11:58:43 2001 From: Antti.Roppola at brs.gov.au (Antti.Roppola@brs.gov.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:37 2003 Subject: How to remove BIOS password? Message-ID: <595FE28AB1EBD111920F0060B06B3DD70730C1CC@ACTMAIL2> > I grabbed a backdoor BIOS password list and the fourth one got me in! Which kind of makes me wonder why they bothered passwording it at all... Antti From antigramp at yahoo.com.au Mon Sep 24 15:06:52 2001 From: antigramp at yahoo.com.au (Gary Woodman) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:37 2003 Subject: How to remove BIOS password? In-Reply-To: <595FE28AB1EBD111920F0060B06B3DD70730C1CC@ACTMAIL2> Message-ID: <20010924050652.72146.qmail@web12705.mail.yahoo.com> --- Antti.Roppola@brs.gov.au wrote: > > > I grabbed a backdoor BIOS password list and the fourth one got me > in! > > Which kind of makes me wonder why they bothered passwording it at > all... Same as flimsy snib locks and glass panel doors - to keep honest people out. But then - did you ever have any BIOS settings which you felt you had to secure from the rest of the world? I think the only case where this is relevant is where there are naive meddlers who *will* change settings... Gary __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From mrbump at deathsdoor.com Mon Sep 24 15:20:05 2001 From: mrbump at deathsdoor.com (Mark Triggs) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:37 2003 Subject: Dual boot question In-Reply-To: <86adzmgg21.fsf@reflex.repose.cx>; from resolve@repose.cx on Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 12:03:34AM +1000 References: <002401c14432$669b6c80$4cf936cb@tao> <86adzmgg21.fsf@reflex.repose.cx> Message-ID: <20010924151924.A22234@thweeble.telefunken.dyn.ml.org> On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 12:03:34AM +1000, Damien Elmes wrote: > One thing you learn after moving away from the commercial world for a > while, is that the best things in life are often free :-) Except for free Internet sampler discs from AOL, pamphlets from fringe political groups and venereal disease.. (a fairly unproductive post) Mark -- Mark Triggs || From mikal at stillhq.com Tue Sep 25 09:15:00 2001 From: mikal at stillhq.com (Michael Still) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:37 2003 Subject: CLUG 27th Sept 2001 In-Reply-To: <3BADB103.C4CED591@pcug.org.au> Message-ID: On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, Paul Matthews wrote: Just to let people know, but a whole bunch of us are at AUUG (http://www.auug.org.au), so we'll see you next month. > The Sept CLUG is next Thursday night (the 27rd) > at 7pm in room N101, on the ground floor of the > Computer Science and Information Technology > building at the ANU. Cheers, Mikal -- Michael Still (mikal@stillhq.com) From tmc at goldweb.com.au Tue Sep 25 12:15:16 2001 From: tmc at goldweb.com.au (Tomasz Ciolek) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:37 2003 Subject: rsync troubles Message-ID: <20010925121516.B21430@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> Hi All, I know this is not exactly a linux question, but I am having tyrouble rsync-ing a very larga data set (approc 16GB with about 1 million files and directories) for a Sun Solaris 2.6 box. Whta I am seeing is rsync buiulding the file lists, seding some dsirectory iformation and files and then stopping all data flow. I am wandering if there are any limits inherent to rsync as to homw many "objects" ie files and directories it can handle in asingle run? Does oneone kow if there are patches to rsync to resolve this problem? Also How does on egte in touch with trige these days (I want to speak to the Father or Rsync about this issue). regards Tomasz Ciolek -- Tomasz M. 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Whta I am seeing is rsync buiulding the file lists, seding some dsirectory iformation and files and then stopping all data flow. > > I am wandering if there are any limits inherent to rsync as to homw many "objects" ie files and directories it can handle in asingle run? Does oneone kow if there are patches to rsync to resolve this problem? yes there are problems with trying to deal with that many files and that much data as it has to go and compute the checksums oer all the files and do all sorts of processing on it all. I suggest just ftping it all across or something. I remember a few years ago tridge was saying he was running our of memory on the O200 that was samba.anu.edu.au at the time trying to transfer a huge nuber of files with a large amount of data. I dont know how mmuch it has progressed since then. Anyway I suggest getting onto the rsync mailing lists and asking about it and see if they can help or give updates. > Also How does on egte in touch with trige these days (I want to speak to the Father or Rsync about this issue). As always you can email tridge with tridge@samba.org, however the usual applies, he is extremely busy, gets lots of email and tends to go through them pretty fast. He is currently up in Sydney at auug. I suggest as mentioned above that you get onto the rsync mailing list as other people with some knowledge of what the current abilities of rsync are. I am also up in sydney at auug just now so may see tridge tomorrow or thursday, but the mailing list is possibly the best bet. See You Steve -- sjh@wibble.net http://wibble.net/~sjh Look Up In The Sky Is it a bird? No Is it a plane No Is it a small blue banana? Yes From Robert.Edwards at anu.edu.au Tue Sep 25 20:52:55 2001 From: Robert.Edwards at anu.edu.au (Bob Edwards) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:37 2003 Subject: rsync troubles References: <20010925121516.B21430@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> Message-ID: <3BB06207.AE7A6867@anu.edu.au> Tomasz Ciolek wrote: > > Hi All, > > I know this is not exactly a linux question, but I am having tyrouble rsync-ing a very larga data set (approc 16GB with about 1 million files and directories) for a Sun Solaris 2.6 box. Whta I am seeing is rsync buiulding the file lists, seding some dsirectory iformation and files and then stopping all data flow. > > I am wandering if there are any limits inherent to rsync as to homw many "objects" ie files and directories it can handle in asingle run? Does oneone kow if there are patches to rsync to resolve this problem? > > Also How does on egte in touch with trige these days (I want to speak to the Father or Rsync about this issue). > > regards > Tomasz Ciolek I don't know how may inodes we are using, but we regularly backup a 17.5GB partition (usually almost full) on a Solaris 2.6 machine to a Linux box using rsync. The Solaris box has 256MB RAM, but also usually runs many user processes. It also has piles of swap space. Certainly, the number of inodes in use is an issue. Each file/directory uses some finite amount of memory in rsync. Contrary to what Steven wrote, rsync does not do a checksum of every file, only of those files who's size and modification times are different at each end. Cheers, Bob Edwards. From eyal at eyal.emu.id.au Tue Sep 25 21:08:13 2001 From: eyal at eyal.emu.id.au (Eyal Lebedinsky) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:38 2003 Subject: rsync troubles References: <20010925121516.B21430@barbican.dreamcraft.com.au> Message-ID: <3BB0659D.F95AA7FD@eyal.emu.id.au> Tomasz Ciolek wrote: > I am wandering if there are any limits inherent to rsync as to homw many "objects" ie files and directories it can handle in asingle run? Does oneone kow if there are patches to rsync to resolve this problem? Don't know the theory, but I regularly sync an 80+GB filesystem without a problem. Both sides run kernel 2.49/10, and the fs is XFS, oner RAID5. The fs is made of many small file (an office wide NFS/SMB server). The initial sync took over an hour to start moving data. A null rsync (where the target is already uptodate) takes just about an hour. -- Eyal Lebedinsky (eyal@eyal.emu.id.au) From pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au Tue Sep 25 22:55:38 2001 From: pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au (Peter Barker) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:38 2003 Subject: rsync troubles In-Reply-To: <3BB06207.AE7A6867@anu.edu.au> Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Bob Edwards wrote: > Contrary to what Steven wrote, rsync does not do a checksum of every > file, only of those files who's size and modification times are > different at each end. ... unless you pass it the appropriate option. Actually, rsync is very good at finding problems with tcp/ip stacks. Is it possible that it is finding problems in the Solaris stack? What does strace show you on either end? ltrace? rsync -vvvvvvvvvvvvvvv (errr... you get the idea :-) tcpdump? top? fprintf(3) and gcc? Lots of debugging options :-) If you don't already have a copy of the filing system on the other end, I often use netcat and tar.... On sender: tar c /etc | nc destination 7863 On receiver (in appropriate directory...): nc -l -p 7863 -w 10 | tar x Adding the z option is entirely dependant on the link. > Bob Edwards. Yours, -- Peter Barker | N _--_|\ /---- Barham, Vic Programmer,Sysadmin,Geek | W + E / /\ pbarker@barker.dropbear.id.au | S \_,--?_*<-- Canberra You need a bigger hammer. | v [35S, 149E] "When used legally and in its intended fashion, the Acrobat eBook Reader secures eBooks purchased by locking the eBook to the hardware from which it was purchased." -- Adobe press release From alexei at rses.anu.edu.au Thu Sep 27 17:01:37 2001 From: alexei at rses.anu.edu.au (Alexei Gorbatov) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:38 2003 Subject: TDK Lan & Modem card problems Message-ID: <000801c14722$40667080$c709cb96@anu.edu.au> Hi, I have TDK "Lan & Modem Global Networker" (DFL3410) PCMCA card on my Toshiba Tecra 8000 laptop with Linux suse 7.1. Linux recognize all this staff perfectly. Everything seems to be OK. However, It does not work. Please, help anybody who had the similar problem!!!!! Cheers, Alex ----------------------------------------------------------------- Research School of Earth Sciences The Australian National University Canberra ACT 0200 Ph: +612-6125-03-39 Fx: +612-6257-27-37 ----------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From jeremy at itassist.net.au Fri Sep 28 03:57:46 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:38 2003 Subject: TransACT network Message-ID: Woo hoo. Just got hooked up today. Now for the big question... what do I do with it? I haven't got an account with an ISP yet because I had been told that I could communicate with other people on the Transact network but I can't find any doco. Could someone point me the right way? And can we do any neat stuff like run our own pppoe servers or something? Probly not, but it would be fun. -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 240 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010928/26e2ac96/attachment.bin From andrew at bishop.dropbear.id.au Fri Sep 28 07:14:27 2001 From: andrew at bishop.dropbear.id.au (andrew@bishop.dropbear.id.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:38 2003 Subject: TransACT network In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 jeremy@itassist.net.au wrote: > Woo hoo. Just got hooked up today. Now for the big question... what do > I do with it? Ummm... Watch the non-stop infomercials on channel 5? > I haven't got an account with an ISP yet because I had been told that I > could communicate with other people on the Transact network but I can't > find any doco. Could someone point me the right way? I got hooked up 4 months ago now, and I've been asking them about that ever since. Last I heard, the internal network feature is still "coming real soon now". While on the topic of transact isps, let me just add that I signed up with netspeed, but only because they were the only isp available when I connected. Stay away from them. They suck. I'll save the lengthy description of how they suck for another day. Back on topic now... You know they use PPPoE, right? When I signed up, they gave me a cd with a windows PPPoE client on it (which I never installed), and a letter telling me that if I ran MacOS, or "any other non-windows OS", I should contact them for the appropriate version of the software. Well, I did that, just to see what they gave me, (and installed roaring penguin while waiting for a reasponse), and got an email back from Someone With A Clue pointing me to roaringpenguin.org. Useless information for me, but it's always nice to hear that a company you're dealing with has Someone With A Clue on their staff. Anyway, without a PPPoE client, all you can do is plug a serial cable into that settop box they gave you and watch its boot messages scroll past every time you pull the plug and plug it back in (9600, 8N1, and if you can find a working username/password to log into it, let me know :-) There have been several talks given by the transact people (one of them at clug even), and I've managed to miss every single one. However, leaving a tcpdump running on the relevent interface has convinced me that I'm on a switched network (I never see traffic headed for anyone else), and the only thing I can talk to directly is one bloody big router (when I send out PADI packets (PPPoE discovery packets - the first "who is out there that's willing to talk to me" step in establishing a PPPoE connection), I only get one response (despite the fact that there's supposed to be more than one ISP on transact now), and I never see any incoming PADIs). So, apparently all you can do is talk PPPoE to the router - and it works out who to forward your connection to depending on how you authenticate yourself (the "username" I supply during PAP authentication includes the name of my isp). I've made a point of asking about the alleged internal network transact offers every time I've spoken to them about anything (which has been at least once a month, as they have yet to send me a bill for the right amount... but they still manage to take only the right amount of money from my account each month, so it could be worse...). I'm told every time that "we're still working on implementing that". The little else I've gleaned from the occasional time I've got through to someone who actually knows something about the system there amounts to: when it's implemented, it will work just like another isp - you disconnect form your real isp, connect to it, supply a different PAP username/password, and you're put on a network with everyone else connected to that "isp" (and maybe you'll also be able to access other servers that are connect to transact's backbone (e.g. anu), if they can work out how to do that). Of course, all those instructions are assuming you're running windows - all transact's customers are, right? With a bit of luck, us linux users will be able to connect to both simultaneously (see the -U option to pppoe). So... did they tell you that there was an internal network you could connect to now? Hassle them over it, and I'll join you in hassling them. I've been letting it slide just because nobody else I know is on transact yet, so there's nobody I'd need to talk to. Andrew From simon at sibern.com.au Fri Sep 28 07:52:08 2001 From: simon at sibern.com.au (Simon Haddon) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:38 2003 Subject: TransACT network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010927.21520859@magnum.sibern.com.au> Wow. I think I have TransACT envy. I can't get hooked up till mid next year. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 28/09/01, 3:57:46 AM, jeremy@itassist.net.au wrote regarding TransACT network: > Woo hoo. Just got hooked up today. Now for the big question... what do > I do with it? > I haven't got an account with an ISP yet because I had been told that I > could communicate with other people on the Transact network but I can't > find any doco. Could someone point me the right way? > And can we do any neat stuff like run our own pppoe servers or > something? Probly not, but it would be fun. > -- > I/O, I/O, > It's off to disk I go, > A bit or byte to read or write, > I/O, I/O, I/O... From kim.holburn at anu.edu.au Fri Sep 28 09:00:27 2001 From: kim.holburn at anu.edu.au (Kim Holburn) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:38 2003 Subject: TransACT network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: One of the techs told me it would be in the reserved ip space 10.x.x.x so I tried firing of a few (thousand;-) pings but got no response. If anyone wants to try grabbing a 10.x.x.x ip number sometime and see if we can exchange ICMP packets;-) At 7:14 AM +1000 28/9/2001, wrote: >On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 jeremy@itassist.net.au wrote: > >> Woo hoo. Just got hooked up today. Now for the big question... what do >> I do with it? > >Ummm... Watch the non-stop infomercials on channel 5? He also told me they were going to use macrovision to stop anyone recording video. Good move:-( > >> I haven't got an account with an ISP yet because I had been told that I >> could communicate with other people on the Transact network but I can't >> find any doco. Could someone point me the right way? > >I got hooked up 4 months ago now, and I've been asking them about that >ever since. Last I heard, the internal network feature is still "coming >real soon now". > >While on the topic of transact isps, let me just add that I signed up with >netspeed, but only because they were the only isp available when I >connected. Stay away from them. They suck. I'll save the lengthy >description of how they suck for another day. Back on topic now... > >You know they use PPPoE, right? When I signed up, they gave me a cd with >a windows PPPoE client on it (which I never installed), and a letter >telling me that if I ran MacOS, or "any other non-windows OS", I should >contact them for the appropriate version of the software. Well, I did >that, just to see what they gave me, (and installed roaring penguin >while waiting for a reasponse), and got an email back from Someone >With A Clue pointing me to roaringpenguin.org. Useless information for >me, but it's always nice to hear that a company you're dealing with has >Someone With A Clue on their staff. Anyway, without a PPPoE client, all >you can do is plug a serial cable into that settop box they gave you and >watch its boot messages scroll past every time you pull the plug and plug >it back in (9600, 8N1, and if you can find a working username/password to >log into it, let me know :-) > >There have been several talks given by the transact people (one of them at >clug even), and I've managed to miss every single one. However, leaving a >tcpdump running on the relevent interface has convinced me that I'm on a >switched network (I never see traffic headed for anyone else), and the >only thing I can talk to directly is one bloody big router (when I send >out PADI packets (PPPoE discovery packets - the first "who is out there >that's willing to talk to me" step in establishing a PPPoE connection), I >only get one response (despite the fact that there's supposed to be more >than one ISP on transact now), and I never see any incoming PADIs). > >So, apparently all you can do is talk PPPoE to the router - and it works >out who to forward your connection to depending on how you authenticate >yourself (the "username" I supply during PAP authentication includes the >name of my isp). > >I've made a point of asking about the alleged internal network transact >offers every time I've spoken to them about anything (which has been at >least once a month, as they have yet to send me a bill for the right >amount... but they still manage to take only the right amount of money >from my account each month, so it could be worse...). I'm told every time >that "we're still working on implementing that". > >The little else I've gleaned from the occasional time I've got through to >someone who actually knows something about the system there amounts to: >when it's implemented, it will work just like another isp - you disconnect >form your real isp, connect to it, supply a different PAP >username/password, and you're put on a network with everyone else >connected to that "isp" (and maybe you'll also be able to access other >servers that are connect to transact's backbone (e.g. anu), if they can >work out how to do that). Of course, all those instructions are assuming >you're running windows - all transact's customers are, right? With a bit >of luck, us linux users will be able to connect to both simultaneously >(see the -U option to pppoe). > >So... did they tell you that there was an internal network you could >connect to now? Hassle them over it, and I'll join you in hassling them. >I've been letting it slide just because nobody else I know is on transact >yet, so there's nobody I'd need to talk to. > >Andrew -- -- Kim Holburn Network Consultant P/F: +61 2 61258620 M: +61 0417820641 Email: kim.holburn@anu.edu.au - PGP Public Key on request Life is complex - It has real and imaginary parts. Andrea Leistra (rec.arts.sf.written.Robert-jordan) From andrew at bishop.dropbear.id.au Fri Sep 28 09:53:06 2001 From: andrew at bishop.dropbear.id.au (andrew@bishop.dropbear.id.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:38 2003 Subject: TransACT network In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Kim Holburn wrote: > One of the techs told me it would be in the reserved ip space > 10.x.x.x so I tried firing of a few (thousand;-) pings but got no > response. If anyone wants to try grabbing a 10.x.x.x ip number > sometime and see if we can exchange ICMP packets;-) As I said, I've tried sniffing the network, and there is no traffic on it except that related to my PPPoE link. Doesn't matter how my end is configured - if I can't talk to anyone but the router, and nobody but the router can talk to me, and the router only wants to talk PPPoE.... we can either go through our respective ISPs (and pay for the privilege), or wait for transact to set up something else for us to connect to. If you want to try anyway, I've set the IP on my external interface to 10.29.38.47 (netmask 255.0.0.0). Go nuts trying to reach it. [...] > He also told me they were going to use macrovision to stop anyone > recording video. Good move:-( Well, last time I tried, there was no macrovision crap. An "evil pirate hacker" could tape VOD movies! If they had any worth watching, that might be tempting.... I hear one can buy de-macrovising boxes for $notmuch. Personally, I have a tv tuner card and a large hard disk - if I ever feel the burning need to record something and find it's been macrovised, I can always fall back to that. Andrew From dazza at tucan.net Fri Sep 28 10:22:49 2001 From: dazza at tucan.net (Darrell Burkey) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:38 2003 Subject: TransACT network In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 andrew@bishop.dropbear.id.au wrote: > As I said, I've tried sniffing the network, and there is no traffic on it > except that related to my PPPoE link. Doesn't matter how my end is > configured - if I can't talk to anyone but the router, and nobody but the > router can talk to me, and the router only wants to talk PPPoE.... we can > either go through our respective ISPs (and pay for the privilege), or wait > for transact to set up something else for us to connect to. I remember quite clearly during public presentations by TransACT a statement that local network traffic would be free. But last week I was told by a fairly reliable source that this functionality had been dropped and that all network traffic would be going through the ISPs connected to the service. The implications of this would severely reduce the functionality of the service for my needs and drive the cost up even more. BTW, has anyone done a calculation of how much it would cost to move the 3G of data included with Telstra's ADSL service via TransACT/Netspeed? Lools like around $500+/month to me so I won't be rushing to use the service. :-) If anyone has any more accurate or up-to-date info I'd be very interested. Cheers. -- ______________________________________________________ Darrell Burkey 0408 622 647 http://www.tucan.net/darrell Canberra, ACT From david at gibson.dropbear.id.au Fri Sep 28 10:35:32 2001 From: david at gibson.dropbear.id.au (David Gibson) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:38 2003 Subject: TransACT network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010928103532.B13479@zax> On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 09:53:06AM +1000, Andrew Bishop wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Kim Holburn wrote: > > He also told me they were going to use macrovision to stop anyone > > recording video. Good move:-( > > Well, last time I tried, there was no macrovision crap. An "evil pirate > hacker" could tape VOD movies! If they had any worth watching, that might > be tempting.... > > I hear one can buy de-macrovising boxes for $notmuch. Personally, I have > a tv tuner card and a large hard disk - if I ever feel the burning need to > record something and find it's been macrovised, I can always fall back to > that. I think macrovision is supposed to throw most capture cards. I beleive that's why I was unable to watch a couple of videos I hired with the TV app on my PowerMac with video input. -- David Gibson | For every complex problem there is a david@gibson.dropbear.id.au | solution which is simple, neat and | wrong. -- H.L. Mencken http://www.ozlabs.org/people/dgibson From matthew at topic.com.au Fri Sep 28 10:56:04 2001 From: matthew at topic.com.au (Matthew Hawkins) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:38 2003 Subject: fixed-freq monitor dual-head with XF86 4.1.0 Message-ID: <20010928105604.A2432@topic.com.au> Hi everyone, I scammed a Sun Microsystems CHB7727L 17" monitor (SN 365-1396) that was lying around doing nothing. From what I've discovered, it's a fixed-frequency monitor that can do 1280x1024. I can get it to work fine at 640x400 as the second head on a G450. 640x480 gets the wobbles. 800x600 gets the "sync out of range" error, as does all modes up to 1280x1024 (which also gets the wobbles). I'd like to cure the wobbles! I've done all the usual stuff (search google, look on sun's website, etc) even found a site (via google) at the ANU with info on getting fixed frequency monitors to work on XFree86. It had sample modelines etc but nothing for this particular model. Setting "SyncOnGreen" or "Composite" appears to have absolutely no effect whatsoever. The only thing I've noticed that's odd is in the XFree86.0.log, the monitor detected by the X server on the second head is actually the monitor attached to the first. Could this be affecting it? Cheers, -- Matt From kim.holburn at anu.edu.au Fri Sep 28 10:41:40 2001 From: kim.holburn at anu.edu.au (Kim Holburn) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:38 2003 Subject: TransACT network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 9:53 AM +1000 28/9/2001, andrew@bishop.dropbear.id.au wrote: >On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Kim Holburn wrote: > >> One of the techs told me it would be in the reserved ip space >> 10.x.x.x so I tried firing of a few (thousand;-) pings but got no >> response. If anyone wants to try grabbing a 10.x.x.x ip number >> sometime and see if we can exchange ICMP packets;-) > >As I said, I've tried sniffing the network, and there is no traffic on it >except that related to my PPPoE link. If it's a decent switching fabric that's what I'd expect, well perhaps a little broadcast "Ethernet" traffic. How does "Ethernet" scale with that many hosts. Does anything answer a dhcp call? >Doesn't matter how my end is >configured - if I can't talk to anyone but the router, and nobody but the >router can talk to me, and the router only wants to talk PPPoE.... we can >either go through our respective ISPs (and pay for the privilege), or wait >for transact to set up something else for us to connect to. > >If you want to try anyway, I've set the IP on my external interface to >10.29.38.47 (netmask 255.0.0.0). Go nuts trying to reach it. I'll try and get time this evening but it might have to be next week. I'll try on 10.10.11.11 and then perhaps 10.29.38.2 > >[...] >> He also told me they were going to use macrovision to stop anyone >> recording video. Good move:-( > >Well, last time I tried, there was no macrovision crap. An "evil pirate >hacker" could tape VOD movies! If they had any worth watching, that might >be tempting.... > >I hear one can buy de-macrovising boxes for $notmuch. Personally, I have >a tv tuner card and a large hard disk - if I ever feel the burning need to >record something and find it's been macrovised, I can always fall back to >that. > >Andrew -- -- Kim Holburn Network Consultant P/F: +61 2 61258620 M: +61 0417820641 Email: kim.holburn@anu.edu.au - PGP Public Key on request Life is complex - It has real and imaginary parts. Andrea Leistra (rec.arts.sf.written.Robert-jordan) From mikal at stillhq.com Fri Sep 28 13:09:47 2001 From: mikal at stillhq.com (Michael Still) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:38 2003 Subject: TransACT network In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 andrew@bishop.dropbear.id.au wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Kim Holburn wrote: > > I hear one can buy de-macrovising boxes for $notmuch. Personally, I have > a tv tuner card and a large hard disk - if I ever feel the burning need to > record something and find it's been macrovised, I can always fall back to > that. My recollection is that macrovision plays with the sync pulses thast TVs don't care about. All you need to do is pull off the dodgy sync pulse, and put on a new one... A small project. DSE also sells a kit that does this. Mikal -- Michael Still (mikal@stillhq.com) From john at capmon.com Fri Sep 28 23:36:54 2001 From: john at capmon.com (John Griffiths) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:39 2003 Subject: TransACT network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20010928133654.010d2ba0@mailhost.capmon.com> Well I've gotta say my friends and I are having trouble getting what we want from netspeed (ports 25 & 80 blocked) intermittent connection to port 22 (it'll drop out midway thought a session) it seems pretty rocksolid for outbound websurfing which i guess is where they're aiming can anyone recommend a good transact ISP? From jeremy at itassist.net.au Fri Sep 28 14:23:54 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:39 2003 Subject: TransACT network In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 28 Sep, andrew@bishop.dropbear.id.au wrote: > On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, Kim Holburn wrote: > >> One of the techs told me it would be in the reserved ip space >> 10.x.x.x so I tried firing of a few (thousand;-) pings but got no >> response. If anyone wants to try grabbing a 10.x.x.x ip number >> sometime and see if we can exchange ICMP packets;-) > > As I said, I've tried sniffing the network, and there is no traffic on > it except that related to my PPPoE link. Doesn't matter how my end is > configured - if I can't talk to anyone but the router, and nobody but > the router can talk to me, and the router only wants to talk PPPoE.... > we can either go through our respective ISPs (and pay for the > privilege), or wait for transact to set up something else for us to > connect to. > > If you want to try anyway, I've set the IP on my external interface to > 10.29.38.47 (netmask 255.0.0.0). Go nuts trying to reach it. > I'd be delighted if this worked, but the diagrams of the network they hand us show our packets going to the concentrator, where they enter the magic bubble and then reappear on the internet. I'm guessing that the magic bubble is a VPN, so it would be unlikely that there would be a route in place for each customer. On the Telstra ADSL network (also using PPPOE) we never see packets not addressed to us, and none at all unless we log in. I also guess that they aren't offering the local routing services because they realised the massive amount of computing power that would be needed. Perhaps we could get some more information if someone who was an 'official' CLUG memebr contacted them? We have a fairly sizable mebership. -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If anyone wants to try grabbing a 10.x.x.x ip number > >> sometime and see if we can exchange ICMP packets;-) > > > >As I said, I've tried sniffing the network, and there is no traffic on it > >except that related to my PPPoE link. > > If it's a decent switching fabric that's what I'd expect, well > perhaps a little broadcast "Ethernet" traffic. How does "Ethernet" > scale with that many hosts. Does anything answer a dhcp call? Well, even in a switched network, you have to see ARP requests... or how can the switch work out that packets to *that* address go down *that* pipe? Try doing a tcpdump on your external interface - there is *no* traffic except that associated with your PPPoE tunnel. Andrew From jeremy at itassist.net.au Fri Sep 28 14:36:31 2001 From: jeremy at itassist.net.au (jeremy@itassist.net.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:39 2003 Subject: File system tricks Message-ID: I've been playing around with emulators for a bit now, and am happy with bochs and wine. However wine doesn't always work so well. The docs say that it works better if you have a current windows installation (which I only have as a file the bochs uses). At the moment I cannot mount this file because it is a disc image and not a partition image. Are there drivers to mount partitions? Could I fool the normal driver into using a file as a partition? Failing that, does anyone have a way that I could copy a partition out of a disc image file? I don't want to install windows because of the way it stomps my boot setup every time (I have this weird setup using grub). Plus I have no spare partitions. -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 240 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/attachments/20010928/e9b05938/attachment.bin From kylixau at yahoo.com.au Fri Sep 28 14:41:18 2001 From: kylixau at yahoo.com.au (=?iso-8859-1?q?Wayne=20Vovil?=) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:39 2003 Subject: File system tricks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010928044118.81700.qmail@web13202.mail.yahoo.com> Hi I played around with these as well and got most frustrated. Eventually, I installed and bought VMWARE EXPRESS (US$49). It is great. I run a DOS window and W98 apps with it. I know I could run the DOS app in W98 in DOS window; but I like the separation. I have not encountered a single problem and I have had these two guest OS's running under VMWARE on my SuSE 7.1 Prof system for a month and haven't had to boot any OS at all. Regards Wayne --- jeremy@itassist.net.au wrote: > I've been playing around with emulators for a bit > now, and am happy with > bochs and wine. However wine doesn't always work so > well. The docs say > that it works better if you have a current windows > installation (which I > only have as a file the bochs uses). > > At the moment I cannot mount this file because it is > a disc image and > not a partition image. > > Are there drivers to mount partitions? Could I fool > the normal driver > into using a file as a partition? Failing that, > does anyone have a way > that I could copy a partition out of a disc image > file? > > I don't want to install windows because of the way > it stomps my boot > setup every time (I have this weird setup using > grub). Plus I have no > spare partitions. > > > -- > I/O, I/O, > It's off to disk I go, > A bit or byte to read or write, > I/O, I/O, I/O... > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature ===== -- I/O, I/O, It's off to disk I go, A bit or byte to read or write, I/O, I/O, I/O... http://travel.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Travel - Got Itchy feet? Get inspired! From EEDWARDS at rsbs.anu.edu.au Fri Sep 28 15:00:56 2001 From: EEDWARDS at rsbs.anu.edu.au (Everard Edwards) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:39 2003 Subject: File system tricks Message-ID: And I'll happily recomend Win4Lin. I recently got it (box with CD and manual) from Everything Linux - $179 aussie dollars - and have been extremely impressed. Supports SMP so runs really well on my dual celeron system. It doesn't have the resource hunger that vmware does. Ev PS you can mount a file system using a loopback device - I've only ever done it for cdrom iso images (and very handy it is) so have no idea how it can be used for other file systems. Hi I played around with these as well and got most frustrated. Eventually, I installed and bought VMWARE EXPRESS (US$49). It is great. I run a DOS window and W98 apps with it. I know I could run the DOS app in W98 in DOS window; but I like the separation. I have not encountered a single problem and I have had these two guest OS's running under VMWARE on my SuSE 7.1 Prof system for a month and haven't had to boot any OS at all. Regards Wayne **************************************** Dr E.J. Edwards Environmental Biology Group RSBS The Australian National University GPO Box 475 Canberra ACT 2601 Australia ph: +61 (0)2 6125 3547 fax: +61 (0)2 6125 4919 email: eedwards@rsbs.anu.edu.au ***************************************** From matthew at topic.com.au Fri Sep 28 15:41:47 2001 From: matthew at topic.com.au (Matthew Hawkins) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:39 2003 Subject: fixed-freq monitor dual-head with XF86 4.1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010928105604.A2432@topic.com.au> References: <20010928105604.A2432@topic.com.au> Message-ID: <20010928154147.A1088@topic.com.au> Doing some more testing, I haven't found out much more but did discover that by switching heads (and appropriate setup in XF86Config-4) the Sun monitor worked fine (the standard pc monitor whinged about freqs) with the config I had. This makes me believe there's some problem using the second head on the Matrox G450. Perhaps it doesn't like a multisync monitor on one and a fixed freq on the other? -- Matt From pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au Fri Sep 28 16:13:48 2001 From: pbarker at barker.dropbear.id.au (Peter Barker) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:39 2003 Subject: File system tricks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 jeremy@itassist.net.au wrote: > Are there drivers to mount partitions? Could I fool the normal driver > into using a file as a partition? Failing that, does anyone have a way > that I could copy a partition out of a disc image file? Tried the "offset" option to the loop filing system under mount? Yours, -- Peter Barker | N _--_|\ /---- Barham, Vic Programmer,Sysadmin,Geek | W + E / /\ pbarker@barker.dropbear.id.au | S \_,--?_*<-- Canberra You need a bigger hammer. | v [35S, 149E] "Membership in this grade allows you to use the postnominals StudIEAust" -- Institution of Engineers, Australia "I'm an institutional stud!" -- G.T.Deane From rick_Whittle at bigfoot.com Fri Sep 28 18:17:00 2001 From: rick_Whittle at bigfoot.com (Rick Whittle) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:39 2003 Subject: fixed-freq monitor dual-head with XF86 4.1.0 References: <20010928105604.A2432@topic.com.au> <20010928154147.A1088@topic.com.au> Message-ID: <3BB431FC.42BBE8C4@bigfoot.com> Sun FF mons also send sense data back to the card of what freq. the monitor is doing. are you running a sync combiner or is the card producing composite sync? Matthew Hawkins wrote: > Doing some more testing, I haven't found out much more but did discover > that by switching heads (and appropriate setup in XF86Config-4) the Sun > monitor worked fine (the standard pc monitor whinged about freqs) with > the config I had. > > This makes me believe there's some problem using the second head on the > Matrox G450. Perhaps it doesn't like a multisync monitor on one and a > fixed freq on the other? > > -- > Matt From mark at purcell.aaa.net.au Fri Sep 28 22:22:37 2001 From: mark at purcell.aaa.net.au (Mark Purcell) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:39 2003 Subject: TransACT network In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010928222237.A788@solo.purcell.homeip.net> On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 10:22:49AM +1000, Darrell Burkey wrote: > BTW, has anyone done a calculation of how much it would cost to move the > 3G of data included with Telstra's ADSL service via TransACT/Netspeed? > Looks like around $500+/month to me so I won't be rushing to use the > service. :-) I had Mr TransACT salesman doing the door to door thing here (Curtin) last week. He asked if I was interested. I said they were charging way too much especially since I have Telstra ADSL @ 256 kbps. He said, how much are you paying. I said $78/ month. He said sure we should be able to do that.. So I invited him in. We did the sums and the best he could come up with was the Home Package #1 which gave 256 kbps for $49.95 /month.. I said great, but that doesn't connect me to the Internet does it. He said no, you need to get an ISP for that, which one do you use? So we looked in his little book again and the cheapest ISP we could find was $15 for 80Mb/ month, so when added to TransACT subscription came out at $75/month. The closest to the Telstra ADSL 3Gb /month was 2 Gb / month for $120 ISP costs; total cost of $170 /month. Don't forget the free telephone calls and TV... :-) He said I guess TransACT can't meet the Telstra ADSL price. Analysis. Telstra have already penetrated the Canberra market at below TransACT costs and picked up all the early adopters, such as myself. The only way I can see TransACT being a going concern is if they either; reduce costs and offer a solution below Telstra prices, or provide a higher level of service 'one-stop-shop' where you don't have to go here there and everywhere to get your services. I find it amazing that TransACT aren't interesting in managing the ISP leg and make you go and find an independent ISP. Mark From andrew at bishop.dropbear.id.au Sat Sep 29 08:17:01 2001 From: andrew at bishop.dropbear.id.au (andrew@bishop.dropbear.id.au) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:39 2003 Subject: [netspeed on] TransACT network In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010928133654.010d2ba0@mailhost.capmon.com> Message-ID: Since I'm bagging netspeed out so much in this message, I'm CCing it to netspeed to allow them to respond. Who knows, maybe this will convince them to address my complaints? On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, John Griffiths wrote: > Well I've gotta say my friends and I are having trouble getting what we > want from netspeed (ports 25 & 80 blocked) intermittent connection to > port 22 (it'll drop out midway thought a session) I can assure you that neither port 25 not port 80 are blocked, at least for me. If they tried that, I would be having more than a few words to them... That could be because I signed up for a business plan. At least, they don't block those ports inbound (I run both sendmail and apache, and both are globally accessable). Port 80 outbound is blocked - or rather, redirected through their "transparent" proxy. > it seems pretty rocksolid for outbound websurfing which i guess is > where they're aiming Not from what I've seen. My complaints about netspeed are: 1) I specifically requested a permanent IP when I signed up. They only changed it on me once. Ok, I could forgive that if they'd told me it would be happening, but they just did it, then waited for me to ring and find out what was going on. Also, despite my repeated phone calls, they still haven't set up the reverse DNS for the IP they gave me. That's right, 167.186.56.203.in-addr.arpa does not resolve *at all* (nxdomain). So assorted mail servers refuse to talk to me. I have managed to convince them that this is their problem (yes, I handle my own domain, but the in-addr.arpa domain for my ip isn't delegated to me, it's delegated to you), and even had them promise to fix it "this afternoon" a couple of times. Still no change visible, 3 months on. 2) their DNS is flakey. I initially set up my dns server to forward requests to theirs, but after a couple of days of only being able to resolve some things half the time, I gave up on that. Never failed to resolve (for example) yahoo.com, but when I try to resolve , half the time I get NXDOMAINs. 3) the link itself is flakey. It may be available 97% of the time, but the downtimes are periods of maybe a minute or so, spaced randomly. This is exacerbated by the fact that I'm forced to run my own dns (and don't know enough about configuring bind, probably). If I try to resolve somerandomdomain.com, and bind gets no response from the relevent nameserver because the link is dead, it will cache that fact, and subsequent queries will give an immediate SERVFAIL response. Can anyone tell me how to configure bind (9.1.0) to not do this? 4) because of (2), there are often cases where I can resolve somerandomdomain.com, but their dns can't. So what do you think happens when I try to get a web page from that server? Well, I try to initiate a conenction to port 80, it gets redirected to their "transparent" proxy, and the proxy returns me a page saying "dns error". Oh, and despite being able to point to a site where this often happens, and managing to get on the phone to one of their "techs" before their dns fixed itself (leaving me with nothing to point at), the guy I talked to tried to convince me that they were not running a proxy at all, and that "the website was just down". Never mind that I could get the page in question by requesting http:/// (in general, that fails dismally, as just about every webhost out there has a dozen or more virtualhosts on it). Let's think about this. I request a page from a site, and someone serves me a page saying dns error. If the name really failed to resolve, the request would never leave my box, would it? (5) They have managed to overcharge me on every single bill so far (e.g. charging me for excess traffic when I'm 400Mb short of my quota). These charges were put straight on my credit card, *despite* the fact I paid in advance for the connection, and *specifically requested* that they *not* store my credit card info - and repeated that request after each time they mischarged me. I now have the personal assurances of their manager that this will not happen again, and that she has now removed my credit card details from their records. To their credit, they did handle each complaint about billing promptly, refunding the money, and they may have actually fixed the problem this time - but they didn't fix it last time, despite assuring me that they did. > can anyone recommend a good transact ISP? I hear webone became available through transact last monday. I've dealt with them before (only modem dialin accounts though), and not had any problems. I'll be ringing netspeed up on monday, and telling them that if they don't get their act together, I'll be terminating my contract with them, and moving across (webone is also cheaper). Andrew From adam at eschatologist.org Sat Sep 29 20:04:56 2001 From: adam at eschatologist.org (Adam) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:40 2003 Subject: [netspeed on] TransACT network References: Message-ID: <3BB59CC8.9DCD67F4@eschatologist.org> If they have retained your credit card details and use them without your permission a good way to stop them is to contact your bank and get them to do a chargeback on the transaction. The offending party will be contacted by the bank and told it has lost the money and will get in trouble if it happens too often. Plus there will be lots of paperwork if they want to get their accounts to tally. Adam. andrew@bishop.dropbear.id.au wrote: > Since I'm bagging netspeed out so much in this message, I'm CCing it to > netspeed to allow them to respond. Who knows, maybe this will convince > them to address my complaints? > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, John Griffiths wrote: > > > Well I've gotta say my friends and I are having trouble getting what we > > want from netspeed (ports 25 & 80 blocked) intermittent connection to > > port 22 (it'll drop out midway thought a session) > > I can assure you that neither port 25 not port 80 are blocked, at least > for me. If they tried that, I would be having more than a few words to > them... > That could be because I signed up for a business plan. > > At least, they don't block those ports inbound (I run both sendmail and > apache, and both are globally accessable). Port 80 outbound is blocked - > or rather, redirected through their "transparent" proxy. > > > it seems pretty rocksolid for outbound websurfing which i guess is > > where they're aiming > > Not from what I've seen. > > My complaints about netspeed are: > > 1) I specifically requested a permanent IP when I signed up. They only > changed it on me once. Ok, I could forgive that if they'd told me it > would be happening, but they just did it, then waited for me to ring and > find out what was going on. > > Also, despite my repeated phone calls, they still haven't set up the > reverse DNS for the IP they gave me. That's right, > 167.186.56.203.in-addr.arpa does not resolve *at all* (nxdomain). So > assorted mail servers refuse to talk to me. I have managed to convince > them that this is their problem (yes, I handle my own domain, but the > in-addr.arpa domain for my ip isn't delegated to me, it's delegated to > you), and even had them promise to fix it "this afternoon" a couple of > times. Still no change visible, 3 months on. > > 2) their DNS is flakey. I initially set up my dns server to forward > requests to theirs, but after a couple of days of only being able to > resolve some things half the time, I gave up on that. Never failed to > resolve (for example) yahoo.com, but when I try to resolve small server I and maybe 3 other people outside china use regularly>, > half the time I get NXDOMAINs. > > 3) the link itself is flakey. It may be available 97% of the time, but > the downtimes are periods of maybe a minute or so, spaced randomly. This > is exacerbated by the fact that I'm forced to run my own dns (and don't > know enough about configuring bind, probably). If I try to resolve > somerandomdomain.com, and bind gets no response from the relevent > nameserver because the link is dead, it will cache that fact, and > subsequent queries will give an immediate SERVFAIL response. Can anyone > tell me how to configure bind (9.1.0) to not do this? > > 4) because of (2), there are often cases where I can resolve > somerandomdomain.com, but their dns can't. So what do you think happens > when I try to get a web page from that server? Well, I try to initiate a > conenction to port 80, it gets redirected to their > "transparent" proxy, and the proxy returns me a page saying "dns error". > > Oh, and despite being able to point to a site where this often happens, > and managing to get on the phone to one of their "techs" before their dns > fixed itself (leaving me with nothing to point at), the guy I talked to > tried to convince me that they were not running a proxy at all, and that > "the website was just down". Never mind that I could get the page in > question by requesting http:/// (in general, that fails dismally, > as just about every webhost out there has a dozen or more virtualhosts on > it). > > Let's think about this. I request a page from a site, and someone serves > me a page saying dns error. If the name really failed to resolve, the > request would never leave my box, would it? > > (5) They have managed to overcharge me on every single bill so far (e.g. > charging me for excess traffic when I'm 400Mb short of my quota). These > charges were put straight on my credit card, *despite* the fact I paid in > advance for the connection, and *specifically requested* that they *not* > store my credit card info - and repeated that request after each time they > mischarged me. > > I now have the personal assurances of their manager that this will not > happen again, and that she has now removed my credit card details from > their records. To their credit, they did handle each complaint about > billing promptly, refunding the money, and they may have actually fixed > the problem this time - but they didn't fix it last time, despite assuring > me that they did. > > > can anyone recommend a good transact ISP? > > I hear webone became available through transact last monday. I've dealt > with them before (only modem dialin accounts though), and not had any > problems. I'll be ringing netspeed up on monday, and telling them that if > they don't get their act together, I'll be terminating my contract with > them, and moving across (webone is also cheaper). > > Andrew From davey at doa.org Sun Sep 23 20:02:23 2001 From: davey at doa.org (David Murn) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:40 2003 Subject: How to remove BIOS password? In-Reply-To: <20010922.11250160@magnum.sibern.com.au> Message-ID: On Sat, 22 Sep 2001, Simon Haddon wrote: > I would say the easiest thing to do would be to remove the battery. This > will set everything back to standard. > > -----Original Message----- > > > I want to clear the password. Tried to remove the battery for a few > > hours, no go. Sounds like he's been there tried that. Davey From felixk at webone.com.au Sun Sep 30 02:43:39 2001 From: felixk at webone.com.au (Felix Karpfen) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:40 2003 Subject: TransACT network Message-ID: <20010930024339.A13323@smtp.webone.com.au> Attached is a notification that I have just received from my ISP. While my pattern of Internet usage is such that the information offers nothing that is of interest to me, it may be relevant to the above thread. Felix Karpfen ----- Forwarded message from info@webone.com.au ----- Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 17:12:01 +1000 From: info@webone.com.au Subject: [Info] Broadband goes live Reply-To: info@webone.com.au To: undisclosed-recipients:; Hi All, Web One Internet has our first customer connected via the TransACT broadband network. This means that if you have a TransACT broadband service and want to use it with Web One Internet it can be arranged. If your suburb has not yet been cabled or may never be cabled by TransACT or if you are not interested in using any TransACT service you do not need to worry. Your Web One service will not be effected in any way. Many Web One customers have waited for Web One to go live with TransACT broadband rather than switching to an alternate provider. I want to say thank you to those people. Anyone who has an account on the Web One system and upgrades to a TransACT broadband service will receive a $20 credit to their account once they pay their first bill for broadband. Anyone who signs up with Web One for a TransACT broadband service at the recommendation of an existing customer, will also receive a $20 credit once they pay the first account and the $10 spotters credit that goes to the recommending customer will be increased to $20 for these accounts. Please note that this offer is our way of saying thanks to those who have stood by Web One and for this reason applies only to those who are currently able to connect via TransACT and who sign up with Web One before 31 October 2001. If you would like more information about TransACT specifically please visit http://www.transact.com.au You are of course always most welcome to write or phone Web One for information on TransACT broadband or any other service. Regards Tim ----------------------------------------------------------- Tim Thornley Phone 61 2 62420605 or 1300 730605 Manager Fax 61 2 62425728 Web One Internet http://www.webone.com.au ----------------------------------------------------------- ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Felix Karpfen felixk@webone.com.au Public Key 72FDF9DF (DH/DSA) Keyserver http://blackhole.pca.dfa.de From lannet at lannet.com.au Sun Sep 30 09:35:28 2001 From: lannet at lannet.com.au (Howard Lowndes) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:40 2003 Subject: How to remove BIOS password? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I know on some you have to short out all the connections on the BIOS chip. I did it successfully with one of those surface mount chips by using aluminium foil. On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, David Murn wrote: > On Sat, 22 Sep 2001, Simon Haddon wrote: > > > I would say the easiest thing to do would be to remove the battery. This > > will set everything back to standard. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > I want to clear the password. Tried to remove the battery for a few > > > hours, no go. > > Sounds like he's been there tried that. > > Davey > > -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com From rcowood at optusnet.com.au Sat Sep 29 21:54:40 2001 From: rcowood at optusnet.com.au (Robert Cowood) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:40 2003 Subject: wyse keyboard Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20010929213608.009e96c0@mail.optusnet.com.au> Im looking to aquire a keyboard for a wyse teriminal, I think its a wyse 99 ( *shrug* ), the part number being WT99GT. The socket erquires an RJ-11 jack (phone connector) for the keyboard so if anyone knows how I could adapt a standard PC keyboard to this or has one it would be greatly appreciated if you contact me. thanks, Rob Robert Cowood rcowood@optusnet.com.au PGP Key: http://box3n.gumbynet.org/~rob/public-key.txt "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music" - Kristian Wilson, Nintendo,Inc, 1989. From lannet at lannet.com.au Sun Sep 30 12:51:22 2001 From: lannet at lannet.com.au (Howard Lowndes) Date: Tue Dec 2 13:45:40 2003 Subject: wyse keyboard In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20010929213608.009e96c0@mail.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: I don't think you will find it will work. I seem to recall from the dim and distant past that the keyboard interpretation is done by a chip inside the screen. On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, Robert Cowood wrote: > > Im looking to aquire a keyboard for a wyse teriminal, I think its a wyse 99 > ( *shrug* ), the part number being WT99GT. The socket erquires an RJ-11 > jack (phone connector) for the keyboard so if anyone knows how I could > adapt a standard PC keyboard to this or has one it would be greatly > appreciated if you contact me. > > thanks, > Rob > > Robert Cowood > rcowood@optusnet.com.au > PGP Key: http://box3n.gumbynet.org/~rob/public-key.txt > > "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, > we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and > listening to repetitive electronic music" - Kristian Wilson, Nintendo,Inc, > 1989. > > -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com